Tea app leak worsens with second database exposing user chats
The Tea app data breach has grown into an even larger leak, with the stolen data now shared on hacking forums and a second database discovered that allegedly contains 1.1 million private messages exchanged between the app's members.
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Women’s ‘red flag’ app Tea is a privacy nightmare
Women’s ‘red flag’ app Tea is a privacy nightmare
Selfies were hacked and posted on 4chan. Now, private messages were breached.Tanya Tianyi Chen (The Verge)
Billionaire Peter Thiel backing first privately developed US uranium enrichment facility in Paducah
A California-based company with ties to billionaire investor and Trump ally Peter Thiel announced plans Friday to build America’s first U.S.-owned, privately developed facility to enrich uranium in far western Kentucky.In an email sent to WKMS, General Matter said that the company intends to make a “historic investment in American nuclear infrastructure” by restoring a shuttered facility in Paducah. The gaseous diffusion plant in McCracken County, which ceased operations in 2013, was built by the U.S. government in the 1950s to bolster national defense efforts – and later to generate fuel for nuclear power plants.
Oh wow, good to see California and Kentucky working so closely together these days on so many important things.
Massie, Khanna hammer Republican leadership for thwarting Epstein transparency push
It just goes to show that no matter who you are, Republican or Democrat, Conservative or Liberal, we can all come together over as ~~recipients of Thiel money~~ Americans.
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You Went to a Drag Show—Now the State of Florida Wants Your Name
You Went to a Drag Show—Now the State of Florida Wants Your Name
If you thought going to a Pride event or drag show was just another night out, think again. If you were in Florida, it might land your name in a government database.Electronic Frontier Foundation
The age-gated internet is here: Goodbye, online anonymity.
The end of online anonymity? Age checks spread worldwide.
The age-verification rule isn't aimed solely at sex sites, but at any digital entity where racy content or other "harmful" speech could be found.Elizabeth Nolan Brown (Reason.com)
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This is a special episode where we meet Joris Quarshie who is the Lead for Online Participation from the local team, and Butch Bustria who is a Wikimania committee liaison having organized Wikimania in Singapore.
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Chinese digital propaganda in Central America
Chinese digital propaganda in Central America
New report by Expediente Abierto and ProBox reveals the PRC's soft power strategy in El Salvador, Costa Rica, and PanamaGlobal Voices Advox
How the internet and its bots are sabotaging scientific research
How the internet and its bots are sabotaging scientific research
Bots increasingly take part in scientific studies.The Conversation
Oh My God, TAKE IT DOWN Kills Parody
Oh My God, TAKE IT DOWN Kills Parody
Donald Trump is a notorious media bully. He uses lawsuits, executive power, and political pressure to punish critics and bend institutions to his will. Disney, Meta, and Paramount have since paid o…Techdirt
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Peter Thiel Just Accidentally Made a Chilling Admission. Five Decades Ago, One Man Saw It Coming.
The question was posed in a safe environment. Douthat, one of the Times’ most reliable conservatives, offered Thiel sufficient context to escape with an easy answer. Douthat prefaced his question by saying: “a number of people deeply involved in artificial intelligence see it as a mechanism for transhumanism—for transcendence of our mortal flesh—and either some kind of creation of a successor species or some kind of merger of mind and machine.” He was referencing the movement to radically enhance and evolve humans to achieve immortality. Transhumanist adherents advocate for a range of innovations, from genetic biohacking to uploading our consciousness to a computer to merge with A.I., freezing ourselves through cryonics, and robotically adapting our bodies through expansive bionics that reach the level of cyborgs.Douthat clearly thought that Thiel would choose human over machine. But Thiel responded with a long hesitation. In a video of the exchange, Douthat—to his credit—is clearly taken aback.
Thiel has long been cagey and ambiguous about his beliefs—likely a strategic play for his career as an investor—but he has clearly been fascinated with transhumanism for a long time. This recent interview, though, seems more direct and dangerous. Thiel seems unwilling to answer the question: Does he eventually want to be a literal, honest-to-god brain in a jar wired to a Macbook Pro?
Yes... That's been the plan the whole fucking time. I thought we all knew this already?
There is just something about watching the slow, but inevitable collapse of the U.S. and eventually humanity as we know it, due to the very deliberate actions of one billionaire who was born in another country and who has been playing both sides against each other, while all other silicon valley billionaires have just accepted this as inevitable and are holding brainstorming sessions about what they can do following the collapse, rather than just stopping the guy who is orchestrating the whole thing.
Transhumanism is our inevitable fate, but this was all kicked off by a movement thar coerced Americans into believing they had to organize against secular humanism before things got anymore out of hand.
Thank God (can I still say God or do I have to say Thank Thiel?) we didn't let that happen.
He Was Laughed Out of Academia for This Take About Technology. Turns Out He Was Right.
He was laughed out of academia for this take about the internet. Turns out he was right.Nick Ripatrazone (Slate)
He really does just look so much more relaxed and carefree. Like one picture says 1000 words and tells the story of the life that could have been had he followed his heart rather than becoming a murderous dictator.
Theil looks roughly the same, but with a fun captains hat.
The world would probably be a better more peaceful place if he could find a pair of heels that fit, and the right place to rock them at.
Even if he's not into that, there's still more lifestyle options he may have missed.
A leap toward lighter, sleeker mixed reality displays
A leap toward lighter, sleeker mixed reality displays
Using 3D holograms polished by artificial intelligence, researchers introduce a lean, eyeglass-like 3D headset that they say is a significant step toward passing the “Visual Turing Test.”news.stanford.edu
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“Researchers in the field sometimes describe our goal as to pass the ‘Visual Turing Test,’” said Suyeon Choi [...] “A visual Turing Test then means, ideally, one cannot distinguish between a physical, real thing as seen through the glasses and a digitally created image being projected on the display surface,” Choi said.
So they just came up with a needlessly opaque synonym of “verisimilitude”.
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If you had, hypothetically, AR glasses that weighed 25 grams with a 12 hour battery runtime with transparent or equivalent real world visuals and perfectly opaque virtual content across the entire field of view, youd have even broader adoption than earbuds have today.
Being able to pull up your phone apps without holding your phone, the ability to have real world subtitles in any language. If they go the camera and reproduce route, they can have a nice solution to presbyopia (reading glasses suck to have to switch out).
Unfortunately current headsets weighs the same as twenty eyeglasses and has much improved, but still terrible passthrough, and wouldn't last but a couple of hours even if you wanted to try. Bigscreen beyond gets down to 100 grams, but still looks weird and requires external battery and processor.
After partnering with Israel, Google Cloud supports AI ambitions of UAE, accused of complicity in Sudan genocide
Google announced a cybersecurity partnership with the United Arab Emirates, which has been accused of arming the paramilitary group denounced for committing genocide in Darfur
After partnering with Israel, Google Cloud supports AI ambitions of UAE, accused of complicity in Sudan genocide
The United Arab Emirates has been accused of arming the paramilitary group denounced for committing genocide in DarfurMaurizio Guerrero (Prism)
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After partnering with Israel, Google Cloud supports AI ambitions of UAE, accused of complicity in Sudan genocide
Google announced a cybersecurity partnership with the United Arab Emirates, which has been accused of arming the paramilitary group denounced for committing genocide in Darfur
After partnering with Israel, Google Cloud supports AI ambitions of UAE, accused of complicity in Sudan genocide
The United Arab Emirates has been accused of arming the paramilitary group denounced for committing genocide in DarfurMaurizio Guerrero (Prism)
Tldr: New tech (audiovisual media) bad, old tech (reading) good.
They even say that good reading skills lead to liberal democracy. Which is ironic because there is no government on this planet (that i know of) that is democratic (or liberal).
Personally i think we would live in a utopia if people consumed cave-art and stories by storytellers rather than this book-slop which is easy to mass produce and distribute.
I think this is all very person-dependent. I have found 3d printing resources/tips/experiences from others. I have gotten into building my own antennas after learning about VNAs via social media. I have gotten into SDRs, ham radio, electronics thanks to shtuff on social media. I have learned a few new 3d modeling tricks via social media. I have found a few suggestions for go packages, etc. I could keep going for years about what I have run into online.
I have found the world's knowledge available at my fingertips. Others are finding tiktok dances. I think this is a matter of who you are and what you prefer to do than "the bad tech" making people somehow bad. You will find that people through history have fit a similar distribution of people who are into learning and people who just want to be entertained.
I agree on all of this, but were books different (except for surveillance)?
- Back then those authors that wrote books with messaging supporting the owner class received loads of coverage from their media andtherefore spread their propaganda far and wide. While the average Joe could write whatever they want, nobody was able to see it (until now with social media), because printing is timeconsuming and expensive, and marketing even more so.
- Back then fascists spread their ideas in books, today they do on social media. In both cases supported by the money of the 1%.
- Back then only politically active people were surveilled, now it is everyone. This is a big change.
- Back then entertainment was inexpensive, now it is basically free.
Also that's not really the point the article is making. They say that simply reading books makes you smarter. As if people read physics books in their freetime back then. No, they just read entertaining stories, and now they stream entertaining stories. Nothing has fundamentally changed. Back then Oil made you part of the owner class, now it's IT and the owning of marketplaces.
Personally i think we would live in a utopia if people consumed cave-art and stories by storytellers rather than this book-slop which is easy to mass produce and distribute.
That's sarcasm. Don't worry.
Democracy
There is no democracy on this planet because all democracies are representative democracies. In representative democracies the politicians are not representative of the people, but they promise to do things a certain way, and if people elect them for it, that's like indirect representation.
However this breaks down as soon as secrecy laws are put in place, because if the government or private companies can decide which knowledge will reach the people, and which will not, they will simply declare information that will upset their voters to be secret. This breaks all representative democracies.
Then there is the issue of corruption, which is generally legal under the guise of lobbying.
And because all democracies that i know of have secrecy laws, they can't be considered democratic.
Liberty
With the liberal part: A person can only be free if they feel safe. But in all countries (that i know) there is a large part of the population that works most/all of their day because they are (rigtfully) afraid they can't pay for their daily needs if they don't. And they don't like their job.
So how can any society claim to be free, if a (large) part of their population is not controlled by their ambitions, but by their fears? If you dislike your job, but do it anyways because if you don't you die, that's not freedom. That's the definition of slavery.
Am i OK?
Absolutely not. Here a list of problems that could (all) be solved by diverting some funds from the world's militaries:
1. Startvation
2. Malnutrition
3. Homelessness
4. Climate Change
5. Wage Slavery fixed by UBI/Scary Communism
And here a list of things that can be fixed literally for a negative cost. People would be richer while fixing the following problems:
1. Mass animal torture fixed by Veganism.
2. War
3. Any disease, physiological or mental including aging fixed by Antinatalism
And these are just a few of the worst problems. All of them fixable. Many for free.
Knowing that all of the problems are easily fixable, and the people around me are not only not working on them, but actually making things worse by dedicating their live to emitting CO2 (SUVs, Meat-Eating), supporting (Wage-)Slavery (Being against UBI), and making more babies so they may suffer under these manufactured conditions makes me sad (and angry).
I would say the first step in fixing these problems is realizing that things are absolutely not OK. That earth is closer to hell than to paradise. The next step is realizing that no sane person can (or should be) OK under these conditions. And the final step is implementing a solution, ideally with the help of others.
Is it a representative democracy with secrecy laws? Then no.
There is no democracy on this planet because all democracies are representative democracies. In representative democracies the politicians are not representative of the people, but they promise to do things a certain way, and if people elect them for it, that’s like indirect representation.
However this breaks down as soon as secrecy laws are put in place, because if the government or private companies can decide which knowledge will reach the people, and which will not, they will simply declare information that will upset their voters to be secret. This breaks all representative democracies.
People are voted here for the person there are or for their idea's on certain subject or whatever somebody chooses to make their vote. Everybody can enlist themselves to be voted on different levels on the politic spectrum. Heck, it is even is a spectrum instead of a 2 or 3 party system.
A lot of what is done in the government is transparent and open for the public to read/see, a lot of our justice system is publicly available as well (except certain cases regarding children).
Most companies have to be transparent at least on a financial level and most of the bigger once also on other levels.
Our politic system is far from ideal though: democratiemonitor.nl/wp-conten…
Let's say i put myself out there and say people should vote for me if they want world peace.
Let's assume the people vote for me, because they want world peace.
Now that i am elected, a lobbyist from a arms company visits me and asks me to grant them an export license to sell weapons to an agressor (let's assume i have the right to sign such deals).
Are there laws in place that allow me to prevent my voters from finding out that i granted that export license, like a law that says i don't need to report publicly that i signed this? Or maybe even a law that prevents journalists from reporting on this even if they find out, because the contract (or it's contents) are considered secret and publishing it would be illegal?
We have a lot of registers and depending on the licence the company or person receives it will be made public. Things like building changes, export of live animals etc. You can look some up over here: nvwa.nl/onderwerpen/erkenninge…
Weapon licences go through the police instead of the government itself justis.nl/producten/wet-wapens… the office of justice needs to sign it off it seems.
So it just works differently, if you would want to pass a law that changes how those licences are signed, it would be known, and you wouldn't be the person signing it. The office of justice would be, and probably it is checked multiple times before it even gets there that it isn't financing terrorism or something which is illegal according to the WWFT and some other laws.
Pretty sure a journalist is allowed to write about anything and everything rijksoverheid.nl/onderwerpen/m… there are probably some exceptions on things like kids etc, but a public spokesperson doesn't have that anyway.
This law goes on about the open government: wetten.overheid.nl/BWBR0045754…
And there are multiple parties who try and keep businesses somewhat in check (like accountants, the fiod, etc.)
So if you would try and pull this off in The Netherlands you would have a hard time doing it and I doubt you can do it without somebody being a whistleblower.
Zoek bedrijven met een erkenning, registratie of vergunning
Benieuwd welke bedrijven welke erkenning, registratie of vergunning hebben? En wat hun erkennings- of registratienummer is? Of hebt u een nummer en bent u op zoek naar het bedrijf dat erbij hoort? U zoekt het eenvoudig op met de online zoekhulp of be…www.nvwa.nl
Representative democracy is a type of democracy. You're not doing anyone any favors by conflating "direct democracy" and "democracy".
Though somehow, I feel like you know exactly what you're doing...
Of course you can define words as you want, and say that only direct democracy is rule of the people, while representative democracy can be oligarchy dressed as democracy, but for me using such a definition makes the word democracy meaningless and undesirable.
Middle School Cheerleaders Made a TikTok Video Portraying a School Shooting. They Were Charged With a Crime.
Social Media Posts Are Leading to Criminal Charges Under Tennessee’s School Threats Law
Social videos, memes and retweets are becoming fodder for criminal charges in an era of heightened responses to student threats. Authorities say harsh punishment is necessary, but experts say the crackdown has unintended consequences.ProPublica
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The new age verifying app for the EU will only accept Google Play integrity for Android, de-facto banning any aftermarket OS like GrapheneOS
Taken from the readme of the app on github:
The current release provides only basic functionality, with several key features to be introduced in future versions, including:App and device verification based on Google Play Integrity API and Apple App Attestation
Additional issuance methods beyond the currently implemented eID based method.
These planned features align with the requirements and methods described in the Age Verification Profile.
There is an issue opened to remove this as it's basically telling us that to verify our age in the EU an American corporation has the last word, making it not only a privacy nightmare but a de-facto monopoly on the phone market that will leave out of the verification checks even the fairphone (european) with /e/os.
GitHub - eu-digital-identity-wallet/av-app-android-wallet-ui
Contribute to eu-digital-identity-wallet/av-app-android-wallet-ui development by creating an account on GitHub.GitHub
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A Second Tea Breach Reveals Users’ DMs About Abortions and Cheating
A Second Tea Breach Reveals Users’ DMs About Abortions and Cheating
The more than one million messages obtained by 404 Media are as recent as last week, discuss incredibly sensitive topics, and make it trivial to unmask some anonymous Tea users.Emanuel Maiberg (404 Media)
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States sue USDA over efforts to gather food stamp data on tens of millions of people
Move marks latest attempt by Trump Administration to collect unrelated, protected data to fuel mass deportation machine
Attorney General Bonta Sues Trump Administration Over Illegal Demands that States Hand Over Sensitive Personal Data of SNAP Recipients
Move marks latest attempt by Trump Administration to collect unrelated, protected data to fuel mass deportation machine OAKLAND — California Attorney General Rob Bonta today, leading a coalition of 20 attorneys general with New York Attorney General …State of California - Department of Justice - Office of the Attorney General
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Mozilla Announces Imminent End of Firefox Account Services in China
Mozilla Announces Imminent End of Firefox Account Services in China
Mozilla has announced that it will terminate its partnership with Beijing Firefox, the company handling localized Firefox services in China.Alex Lekander (CyberInsider)
What Happened When I Tried to Replace Myself with ChatGPT in My English Classroom
What Happened When I Tried to Replace Myself with ChatGPT in My English Classroom
My students call it “Chat,” a cute nickname they all seem to have agreed on at some point. They use it to make study guides, interpret essay prompts, and register for classes, turning it loose on t…Literary Hub
Trae AI IDE(ByteDance's VSCode Fork) quietly beams data to ByteDance, even with tracking turned off
GitHub - segmentationf4u1t/trae_telemetry_research
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Sploitlight: Analyzing a Spotlight-based macOS TCC vulnerability
Sploitlight: Analyzing a Spotlight-based macOS TCC vulnerability | Microsoft Security Blog
Microsoft Threat Intelligence has discovered a macOS vulnerability, tracked as CVE-2025-31199, that could allow attackers to steal private data of files normally protected by Transparency, Consent, and Control (TCC), including the ability to extract …Microsoft Threat Intelligence (Microsoft Security Blog)
Kentucky files lawsuit against Temu over data collection practices
Kentucky files lawsuit against Temu over data collection practices
Kentucky Attorney General files consumer protection lawsuit against Chinese e-commerce platform over alleged spyware capabilities.Luis Rijo (PPC Land)
Former Moderator Sues Chaturbate for ‘Psychological Trauma’
Former Moderator Sues Chaturbate for ‘Psychological Trauma’
“Without these safeguards, Mr. Barber eventually developed full-blown PTSD, which he is currently still being treated for,” the former mod's lawyer said.Court Watch
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Just Banning Minors From Social Media Is Not Protecting Them
Just Banning Minors From Social Media Is Not Protecting Them
By publishing its guidelines under Article 28 of the Digital Services Act, the European Commission has taken a major step towards social media bans that will undermine privacy, expression, and participation rights for young people that are already en…Electronic Frontier Foundation
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Nasce GEECO, energia dal tetto dell'Acquario per il centro storico di Genova
Presentata la nuova Comunità Energetica Rinnovabile Solidale per energia pulita e locale, inclusione sociale e sostenibilità
GEECO è un progetto partito dal basso, che ha coinvolto diverse realtà del terzo settore e del mondo cooperativo. Le risorse generate dalla condivisione dell’energia verranno reimpiegate in progetti a impatto sociale e ambientale
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ByteDance AI IDE Trae telemetry continues even after opt-out
Report: Trae AI IDE quietly beams data to ByteDance, even with tracking turned off
: Investigators detail persistent background connections and file transmissions despite telemetry opt-outTim Anderson (The Register)
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Former Moderator Sues Chaturbate for 'Psychological Trauma'
In May, a woman in Kansas sued Chaturbate, claiming that it was the site’s fault that her teenage son found her old laptop unlocked in a closet and used it to access porn without age verification in place.
Sounds like a parenting problem to me, but go ahead and blame porn. People like this should have to pay the legal fees of the defendants. Would anti-slapp (or whatever it’s called) apply here?
Former Moderator Sues Chaturbate for 'Psychological Trauma'
“Without these safeguards, Mr. Barber eventually developed full-blown PTSD, which he is currently still being treated for,” the former mod's lawyer said.Samantha Cole (404 Media)
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I mean, by that same logic, we shouldn't offer mental health counseling to first responders because they knew what they were getting into when they signed up for it. You can say there's a difference between naiveté and stupidity, but it's entirely arbitrary.
Idk man, I feel like you're really missing the point here. If you're going to hire people to do a job that involves exposure to traumatic material, you need to provide resources for them to process and recover from it.
I had a friend who was a firefighter who 100% agreed with that. He said if you don't want to see nasty shit like limbs torn apart in car accidents then go flip burgers.
If you're going to hire people to do a job that involves exposure to traumatic material, you need to provide resources for them to process and recover from it.
I don't agree. The person in question knew what they were getting int, if not they'd have left at the first incident and noped out. They're just teying to make coin of this.
Well, I've been a paramedic for a long time, a paramedic instructor for half as long, and a firefighter longer than either of the other two. Your friend sounds like a pompous dipshit, and his attitude is the reason we keep killing ourselves.
The ones who think they're coping just fine are usually taking it out on their body or their family, in my experience. If you are exposed to shit like that at work, it always catches up with you eventually. Some people last years, some last decades, and some last one call. It's the nature of the work.
Which is why you should always provide those resources. It saves lives. I really don't see anything to suggest that the plaintiff is lying about having PTSD or is just trying to make money; I think that's just the social stigma of PTSD providing you with rationalizations for your own problematic beliefs.
I'm Canadian, I can just go get help...
Again though I'd say this guy knew what he was gonna be seeing, and if he didn't he's a dumbass.
Kenya’s protests are not a symptom of failed democracy. They are democracy
Kenya’s protests are not a symptom of failed democracy. They are democracy
The youth leading the protests must not repeat the mistakes of previous generations. They must demand real change.Patrick Gathara (Al Jazeera)
Microsoft admits it would have to let Trump spy on EU data if demanded
Microsoft admits it would have to let Trump spy on EU data if demanded
Microsoft says it can't promise data sovereignty for EU firmsCraig Hale (TechRadar)
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It's SO funny how apparently for almost 20 years we (as in the west outside the USA) decided that using Chinese cloud platforms or networking hardware was dangerous and to be avoided, but private US companies? Nothing to see here!
Silver lining of the orange man is that maybe countries will wake up and smell the digital sovereignty that we sorely lack.
We have installed EASY UPLOAD3R!
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Im excited to announce EASY UPLOAD3R, a new drag-and-drop upload feature that provides a new way you can upload content!
What Is It?
EASY UPLOAD3R is a powerful client-side tool that processes your media files directly in your browser using WebAssembly (WASM) technology:
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How It Works?
Simply drag your media file onto the EASY UPLOAD3R drop area, and it will automatically:
Generate a properly formatted torrent file
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EASY UPLOAD3R currently works best with:
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Blu-ray disc support is actively being developed and will be available in a future update.
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EASY UPLOAD3R uses several WebAssembly modules:
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Please share your thoughts. Your feedback is needed as we continue to enhance this feature. The traditional uploading methods manually and via API are still available of course. EASY UPLOAD3R more so targets home users and not so much seedbox users that can use one of many upload scripts that interacts with UNiT3Ds {JSON} API.
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in reply to Ilovethebomb • • •it seems its an app that helps women flag potential dating candidates as being dangerous or red flags.
there is the potential for doxxing that comes with that, but I can absolutely understand its use and need when not abused in that manner.
i wonder if there's the potential for a different app with more encryption and a way to prevent doxxing and abuse.
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in reply to Nima • • •There's definitely a use case, but there's an inherent power imbalance to these products that makes sure they will always be misused. The submitters are anonymous, and it's up to the person being reported on to prove the accusations are false.
Or, they're supposed to be anonymous.
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in reply to Ilovethebomb • • •The person doesn't even know they're mentioned in the app.
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in reply to 0x0 • • •Which is even worse, because unless someone tells them, they're blissfully unaware.
With most forms of Libel, at least the victim will see it in a timely manner.
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in reply to Nima • • •I have the solution. Nobody's gonna like it, everybody here is gonna scream at me about it, but I have the solution.
Stop dating strangers on the internet.
The entire personals site/dating app experiment we've been running for the last quarter century is obviously a categorical failure. Humans just don't work like this.
Things have gotten so much worse since I was in high school. When I was in high school, the community of girls available to me to ask out were pretty much all girls I'd known since we were 5. A lot of them, I didn't have to wonder about their character, their intentions, their capacity to do harm, I was there when all that was written. I remember how much of a bully Chelsea was in middle school, I remember how nice Ashley was to everyone, I remember how Justine seemed weirdly infatuated with me in the 4th grade. They'd all remember stuff about me and the other boys. We graduated high school, I never saw 80% of them ever again, and within 5 years that figure climbed to at least 95%. Four years of college with mostly abject strangers who you're weirdly fast to form and break deceptively deep bonds with, all of whom I've also lost track of, and then the adult world in which everyone including you is an NPC.
I happen to be the exact age where, I got out of college in 2007, I disappeared into work, like I went to the airport and I went home for two years. In 2009, I looked back up and everything had CHANGED. Instant messaging was on smart phones now, and you WERE NOT TO approach women in person, only through phone-based dating apps and you had BETTER FUCKING NOT already be acquainted.
Don't talk to women at the grocery store. Don't talk to women at the gym. Don't talk to women at the library. Don't talk to women at your work. Don't talk to women at their work. Don't talk to women at the coffee shop. Don't talk to women at the bar. Don't talk to women at the club. Don't talk to women. No woman, only app.
How do you meet more women? Oh that's categorically the wrong question because having the goal of meeting women in the first place is creepy. Stop wanting to meet women and instead organically decide you want to do things that women happen to like, and then accidentally meet women in the course of doing those things. You know, at those meetups that are always happening on a recurring basis, that aren't advertised to happen at a place and time and then no one shows up and the listing is never re-posted. Probably just install more apps.
It's been women driving this, men vastly prefer asking women out from within their social circle. The pressure to make the first move is still on men, and he'd rather ask out women he already thinks he might like. Women on the other hand vastly prefer to be cold approached by a charming stranger.
I think it's gone far enough when we've got women saying dumb shit like "Systematically doxxing and libeling men is a risk we're just going to have to take."
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Contributors to Wikimedia projects (Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.)Nima
in reply to Captain Aggravated • • •Good lord, please tell me you did not just use ted bundy to describe what you think women like in men?
also did you just lore dump to a complete stranger? we're having a casual conversation.
i never said anything as insane as "Systematically doxxing and libeling men is a risk we're just going to have to take". i said doxxing should be avoided, if you'd read any of my comments.
who is this long winded comment for, exactly?
Captain Aggravated
in reply to Nima • • •I did, because he was. Two different ways.
You came across as pretty lukewarm to me. "Yeah doxxing is a problem I guess." You can't have a Don't Date Him Girl website without doxxing. Doxxing is how they work.
Nima
in reply to Captain Aggravated • • •skipped everything about ted bundy cause wtf you're obsessed, man. maybe join a bundy dating app?
also let me make it clear since you missed it last time (even though you quoted it). I think doxxing is bad and should be avoided. fuck's sake man. i am a commenter, not a politician. i read this stuff over breakfast. take it easy ffs.
not everything has to be a huge debate.
0x0
in reply to Nima • • •Encryption, sure.
Preventing doxxing? I highly doubt it. But hey, it's women doing it so it's ok and anyone who criticizes that is an incel.
Nima
in reply to 0x0 • • •Echo Dot
in reply to Nima • • •You would have to have everyone take a polygraph or something (not that they actually work but a lot of people don't know that so maybe it would prevent them from lying in the first place). There's no way to prevent people from lying for whatever reason they have and there's no way to detect whether or not the thing they have posted is truthful.
The truth is as much benefit as the app may have when used properly the risk of abuse is far too high for it to ever be workable.
If you have a smoke alarm in your house that occasionally explodes and sets your house on fire, but the rest of the time actually works as a fire alarm, then it's not a useful product, as even if the chance of it exploding was less than 1% it would still eventually blow up your house, whereas if you never installed the alarm there was every possibility your house will never catch fire. So game theory suggests that you are better off without it.
Same with this app, sure it might prevent you experiencing a bad date but there's every possibility that it will also cause you not to date somebody who's actually a nice person. You are far better off just making that judgement yourself as you always did. And to be clear given human nature, the likelihood of the "fire alarm exploding" is probably a lot higher than 1%
FauxLiving
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in reply to Nima • • •FauxLiving
in reply to AwesomeLowlander • • •Yeah, the entire point of the app is that you go there and talk about the bad things a person has done.
That seems pretty hard to identify them without posting their image without their consent and discussing private details of their life so others can identify them. It is creepy as hell, at a minimum.
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in reply to AwesomeLowlander • • •off the top of my head, I don't know. i just feel the concept is intriguing and that the idea is a nice one.
just the abuse potential is far too high I suppose. but it would be nice to know if someone had stalked someone else, may have spoken or behaved in a violent manner, etc.
but I suppose at that point you might as well fingerprint and process any potential suitors lol. 😅
the sentiment is great, however.
AwesomeLowlander
in reply to Nima • • •Tunawithshoes
in reply to Nima • • •I am going to say with even the downsides I think the idea is worth it.
My friend sucks to her creeps and maybe she could have saved herself from at least two abused cases.
Maybe like light system based around how often and how a users submits. This person submits a lot of negative responses red light.
This person submits rarely green light?
The problem is also how much data do we really want to keep? How little can we keep?
Lfrith
in reply to AwesomeLowlander • • •Meowmeowbeans social pressure where people will refuse to meet or associate with people who have not been vetted and verified by meowmeowbeans members. So people who want to meet meowmeowbeans users would have to join to get screened otherwise they can get lost.
Solves the issue of people who never signed up to the social media site having strangers uploading personal photos, videos, names, and stories to a profile page they never consented to. Which is reminiscent of doxing in its current state.
So meowmeowbeans certification among consenting members would be the better route to go and socially making those not in meowmeowbeans outcasts. At least there is choice now for people to not be part of the community driven database of people.
ORbituary
in reply to Nima • • •Nima
in reply to ORbituary • • •ORbituary
in reply to Nima • • •national reputation system being developed by the Chinese government
Contributors to Wikimedia projects (Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.)Captain Aggravated
in reply to betterdeadthanreddit • • •You could easily convince me that it was a brilliantly executed honeypot. It's just too damn poetic.
"It's a women's safety app" No it wasn't. This app was about women's safety as much as the recent payment processor porn game censorship bullshit was about child safety. This was about slandering men for fun because women love gossip. The app's name was "Tea."
Not a single woman who signed up for this app stopped to think, "Here's a brand new app, just came out, has no track record, no reputation. I don't know who runs this. I don't know how they secure their database. I know what they're asking, they want a picture of my government-issued ID. We've spent the last two decades reading news headlines of the pattern "tech company was hacked, 2.2 million users compromised including emails, home addresses and SSNs" on a weekly basis. There hasn't been a week gone by since Dubya was president that hasn't happened."
The women who uploaded pictures of their IDs to some app really had their own safety in mind. Turns out you can short circuit that whole process with hilarious ease if you say things like "women only" and "slander your exes."
I don't think I could have constructed a better example as to why all the recent "prove your identity" shit is comprehensively retarded.
Bort
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absGeekNZ
in reply to return2ozma • • •Change the target to any other group and the outrage would be 100-10000 fold bigger.
Try it out, instead of Women rating men, try subbing in various minority groups or races.
Bonus points for the most offensive combinations.....
e.g. Russians rating Ukrainians in your area....it can get pretty bad...I can think of many worse combos.
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surewhynotlem
in reply to absGeekNZ • • •Interesting analogy. You realize you have it backwards, right? Women are the Ukrainians on this scenario.
absGeekNZ
in reply to surewhynotlem • • •AmbitiousProcess (they/them)
in reply to absGeekNZ • • •I think the key reason this was seen as not being terribly offensive was the fact that women are disproportionately more likely than men to be on the receiving end of tons of different negative consequences when dating, thus to a degree justifying them having more of a safe space where their comfort and safety is prioritized.
However I think a lot of people are also recognizing now that such an app has lots of downsides that come as a result of that kind of structure, like false allegations being given too much legitimacy, high amounts of sensitive data storage, negative interactions being blown out of proportion, etc. I also think that this is yet another signature case of "private market solution to systemic problem" that only kind of addresses the symptoms, but not the actual causes of these issues that are rooted more in our societal standards and expectations of the genders, upbringing, depictions in media, etc.
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absGeekNZ
in reply to AmbitiousProcess (they/them) • • •I was making the point, that despite the fact that this is mildly ok. The test for anything that gives one group power over another, is to switch the groups.
If it's still reasonable, than it is probably OK to keep it. If however it seems wrong after the switch, the bar to keep the power imbalance should be very high.
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floofloof
in reply to absGeekNZ • • •That's a very superficial test that deliberately omits the social and historical context that makes sense of these categories. You can't just insert one party for another in statements about a relationship where one side has more power and privilege than the other, and look at your feelings about the result to evaluate the statements. White people have historically mistreated everyone else and robbed them of freedom and power. Men have historically abused women. To say "let's swap the words and see how we feel then" is not a reasonable way of evaluating statements about the relationships between these groups.
What this article says about the importance of entrenched power structures in racism also holds true about the relations between men and women:
aclrc.com/issues/anti-racism/c…
Myth of Reverse Racism | Unpacking the Realities
Alberta Civil Liberties Research Centre (ACLRC)absGeekNZ
in reply to floofloof • • •You can, and do.
It helps set the bar, it is a tool for determining how to assess what level of imbalance is reasonable.
It's not the only tool, nor an I arguing for it to be.
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in reply to AmbitiousProcess (they/them) • • •I’m always reminded of the fact that women on dating sites rate 80% of the men as below average….
And the dating advisors who have written numerous articles about how women don’t really know or aren’t really honest with themselves about what they are looking for in a partner….
Balerion
in reply to DancingBear • • •That was ONE OKCupid survey from years ago, and it also showed that women were more likely than men to message people they didn't rate as attractive.
In reality, women and men rate male facial attractiveness about the same. datepsychology.com/can-women-i…
Can Women Identify An Average Face? - Date Psychology
https://datepsychology.com/author/alexander/#author (Date Psychology)rottingleaf
in reply to AmbitiousProcess (they/them) • • •Stats depend on perception. Where a woman reports abuse, a man often spends an evening drinking or something similar. Not reporting abuse.
Expectations of men are too somewhat cruel. You should be grenadier-tall (or gorilla-wide, point being, you should look fit), with facial features like those of Kianu Reeves, with voice like that of Orlando Bloom, confident like some CEO, honorable like a samurai from some movie, yet able to override that honor at her whim and do any atrocity to make the world better for her. Like some picture of 1930s' propaganda.
If you don't deliver, then she silently pities herself and silently looks down at you for that. But God forbid you seem like that picture in some regard and then inevitably turn out to be more human, that deceit she won't forgive.
It was a problem a century ago that women were mostly right-wing and chauvinist and traditionalist. Most of that has been undone, but not how women in average see gender relations.
OK, so about the app - I won't be surprised if it was an intentional honeypot, honestly, to expose those who will use it. And it's a bad idea, there's no way to verify anonymous accusations, which means it's a tool for defamation of any man, and a way to discredit things of the kind written there at the same time.
Balerion
in reply to rottingleaf • • •rottingleaf
in reply to Balerion • • •I agree. High standards and common ideas of "right" are generally present among people insecure and easily gaslighted.
Such as those that would use this app. Point?
Vanth
in reply to absGeekNZ • • •absGeekNZ
in reply to Vanth • • •Nothing about gender wars here.
Just because Facebook is shit, doesn't make this any better.
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Phoenixz
in reply to absGeekNZ • • •I'm sorry but I'll just say it out right: new feminists are the absolute worst
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for equality where possible. Where isn't equality possible? Well I'd like to conceive a child, but the plumbing isn't exactly useful for that. That sort of thing. Beyond that, were all the same, and IDGAF about your skin color, sexual preferences or whatever. I live by live and Let live, don't be an asshole, it's not that hard to be respectful
New feminists though are the ones coming up with ideas like this website. On the surface, anyone could say that it's not a bad thing to have a place for women to talk about how to protect themselves. In reality though, it's a place where men, innocent or not, get doxxed and made to be rapists.
There are some subs here on Lemmy as well that were very sad to see this shitshow of a website go, lamenting the fact that now they need a different place to dex people. Try not to tell them that doxxing is bad, it gets you banned.
pivot_root
in reply to return2ozma • • •Every time. With startups, it's always an unsecured Firebase or S3 bucket.
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in reply to pivot_root • • •gian
in reply to NeilBrü • • •Canaconda
in reply to gian • • •A lot of people have speculated that.
According to their statement their code was written in Feb/2024 and predates "vibe coding"
Official statement from Tea on their data leak
Simon Willison’s Webloggian
in reply to Canaconda • • •What intrigue me is this:
So they used vibe coding, they are only saying that they think/hope that it is not the cause of the break (and maybe also of the second one)
And if vvibe coding is not caused then they are even more incompetent.
zqps
in reply to NeilBrü • • •It's a little more complex than that. If you want the app on the user device to be able to dump data directly into your online database, you have to give it access in some way. Encrypting the transmission doesn't do much if every app installation contains access credentials that can be extracted or sniffed.
Obviously there are ways around this too, but it's not just "use TLS".
NeilBrü
in reply to zqps • • •Encrypt the credentials then? Or OAUTH pipeline, perhaps? Automated temporary private key generation for each upload (that sounds unrealistic, to be fair)? Can credentialing be used for intermediary storage that encrypts the data on that server and then decrypted on the database host?
Clearly my utter "noobishness" is showing, but at least it's triggering a slight urge to casually peruse modern WebSec production workflows. I am a DNN researcher. Thus, I am far removed from customer-facing production environments, and it shows.
Any recommendations on literature or articles on how engineers solve these problems in a "best practices" way that you can recommend? I suppose I could just look it up, but I thought I'd ask.
Edit: I don't know why I'm down-voted. My questions were sincere.
nickwitha_k (he/him)
in reply to NeilBrü • • •You've got the right ideas. Noone should ever be storing any password in plaintext. It should always be hashed and only the hash stored. That's like WEBDEV99 (remedial course, not even 101).
Really. Despite your stated "noobishness", you basically landed in the territory of best practices right of the bat.
If you're looking for a good source of best practices, the CIS benchmarks are great. cisecurity.org/
CIS Center for Internet Security
Center for Internet SecurityNeilBrü
in reply to nickwitha_k (he/him) • • •Brother, I need the "remedial" lessons since I self-host a lot of my experimental DNN solutions on a GPU cluster served via CasaOS/Ubuntu-Server LTS.
I've followed basic tutorials about nginx, end-to-end encryption, and DNS, but I need more knowledge and training about the theory behind modern security best practices. I think I'm doing okay but I have this ever-present anxiety that I've overlooked something and my ass (i.e., sensitive data) is really just hanging out in the wind.
Thank you for your recommendation.
Chulk
in reply to zqps • • •Wouldn't some sort of proxy in between the bucket and the client app solve this problem? I feel like you could even set up an endpoint on your backend that manages the upload. In other words, why is it necessary for the client app to connect directly with the bucket?
Maybe I'm not understanding the gist of the problem
nickwitha_k (he/him)
in reply to Chulk • • •zqps
in reply to Chulk • • •GissaMittJobb
in reply to NeilBrü • • •SSL is not the tool you need in this case, although you should obviously already be running exclusively on encrypted traffic.
The problem here is one of access rights - you should not make files default-available for anyone that can figure out the file name to the particular file in the bucket. At the very least, you need to be using signed URLs with a reasonably short expiration, and default all other access to be blocked.
NeilBrü
in reply to GissaMittJobb • • •As I mentioned in other comments, I am a noob when it comes to web-sec; please forgive what may be dumb questions.
Is it really just permission rights "over-exposure" issue? Or does one need to also encrypt and then decrypt the data itself that must be sent to a database?
Also, if you have time, recommend any links to web/cloud/SaaS security best practices "for dummies"?
Kalothar
in reply to pivot_root • • •My hey we’re probably using Firestore as their database without authenticating their api calls to firebase functions. Basically leaving their api endpoints open to the public Internet.
They could have connected service account and used some kind of auth handshake between that and generate a temporary login token based on user credentials and the service account oauth credentials to access the api. but they probably just had everything set to unauthenticated
nickwitha_k (he/him)
in reply to Kalothar • • •Kalothar
in reply to nickwitha_k (he/him) • • •I get doing that in Dev for testing before launch, but in production? that’s insane.
Like it has to either be a junior developer playing the role of lead or some serious lack of web dev fundamentals haha
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0x0
in reply to QueenHawlSera • • •The misogyny!
Balerion
in reply to 0x0 • • •Cid Vicious
in reply to QueenHawlSera • • •Echo Dot
in reply to Cid Vicious • • •It was defamation the entire time just because somebody made it an app rather than a Facebook group doesn't make any difference. It was always a crap thing to do.
Of course Tea took it to an entirely new level of stupid.
Cid Vicious
in reply to Echo Dot • • •Echo Dot
in reply to Cid Vicious • • •QueenHawlSera
in reply to Cid Vicious • • •QueenHawlSera
in reply to Cid Vicious • • •Considering even the mere accusation can ruin someone's life? Yes.
The problem isn't women don't deserve to be safe, the problem is we cannot just give people powerful weapons with no oversight or burden of proof to be deployed simply because a date didn't go well.
Facebook or App, the danger is too great
Velypso
in reply to return2ozma • • •PotatoesFall
in reply to return2ozma • • •Wow just two days ago I see a post about how Lemmy is dominated by men and how that could become a problem, and today I see a comment section where all the incels come out of the woodwork.
"waaa somebody wants to solve a problem that has never affected me I'm the victim"
"omg what if people talk behind my back they might find out I'm an asshole? literally 1984"
"wadabout if this app was racist?!? checkmate"
I'm not saying this app is good or bad (I can definitely see the problems) but if an article about cybersecurity gets posted and this is our first reaction, makes me lose hope in Lemmy.
Edit: Responses have made very good points and I think I was off, thanks guys. I still think some of the early comments I encountered were rather reactionary
Balerion
in reply to PotatoesFall • • •ScoffingLizard
in reply to Balerion • • •rottingleaf
in reply to PotatoesFall • • •Everyone has the problem that they'd want to discuss others behind their back. It's not accepted because it doesn't work to any good end.
You won't find out anything from this. People sometimes lie, especially in such situations.
Human adequacy is a big part of cybersecurity.
9bananas
in reply to PotatoesFall • • •i mean...an app directly copying a black mirror episode (but almost exclusively targeting a specific demographic) does ring some very, VERY loud alarm bells...
like, this is literally the plot of nosedive.
it's a social credit system.
and none of the people even know they HAVE a score, so it's somehow even worse than the fictional scenario.
this will, absolutely, hurt innocents and it will do so by design.
"fuck them innocents!"...just because they happen to be men?
how is that anything other than misandrist?
how is that defensible?
how is doxxing, mass libel, and targeted harassment a solution to sexism and rape culture?
I'd be really interested in hearing anything about how this is supposed to help women, because i struggle to see how sowing massive, unearned distrust between men and women is going to make anyone any safer...
I'm really, REALLY glad that the GDPR would nuke this sort of nonsense from orbit...uploading pictures of strangers, for the explicit purpose of gossiping about them behind their backs, spreading awful rumors?
what. the. actual. fuck. is wrong with you people?
and i don't mean women, or men: i mean americans and their total disregard for privacy and digital safety. what the hell...
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in reply to PotatoesFall • • •You make a valid point, this platform absolutely shits on anyone without technical knowledge, just look at the hundred or so smug replies telling you what flavor of Linux they run if you mention a problem with Windows. So, no surprise everyone is focusing on that, and not the human aspect here.
Having said that, there is a power imbalance to this that I really don't like, the accuser gets to hide behind a veil of anonymity, and the accused has their name published, and is forced to defend themselves.
suburban_hillbilly
in reply to Ilovethebomb • • •This is a technology community and the article is specifically about a security breach that exposed massive amounts of sensitive user data.
wizbiz
in reply to return2ozma • • •Constant Pain
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in reply to Constant Pain • • •Zombie-Mantis
in reply to wizbiz • • •It's an antisocial surveillance system for antisocial people, and creates a(n even more) antagonistic relationship between men and women.
Dating apps have been a disaster for dating, and this is perhaps the worst among them.
Echo Dot
in reply to wizbiz • • •Citation of course needed with that one.
The only people who will be listed on the app are people who are either deserving they've been on there or people who don't deserve to be on there but some woman in their lives has decided to inact some vengeance justified or otherwise.
GaMEChld
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in reply to return2ozma • • •QueenHawlSera
in reply to SoftestSapphic • • •It can be both.
So many problems are caused because society assumes cisgender women are always victims and anything that looks like a man if you look at it long enough is an abuser.
SoftestSapphic
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in reply to SoftestSapphic • • •Captain Aggravated
in reply to SoftestSapphic • • •blitzen
in reply to return2ozma • • •I feel that the app filled a need of women we should not ignore. But the app, both this specific app and also the overall concept, is just too rife with downsides to be workable.
So we, as men and as society need to reevaluate why women feel the need for such an app, and reinvest in the criminal justice system to hold victimizers more accountable.
It’s okay to call this app and similar Facebook groups unacceptable. But that’s not enough, we must also call for stronger protections for victims of criminal behavior.
Ilovethebomb
in reply to blitzen • • •It would be interesting to see something similar that required accusations to be backed up with evidence. Police reports, court proceedings and results, news articles etc.
It would also be a lot safer, legally speaking, for the service provider.
blitzen
in reply to Ilovethebomb • • •Something like Megan’s law but for domestic violence. I’m still not thrilled with the potential for abuse, but at least it wouldn’t be hearsay.
I’m sure the police unions would object, for obvious reasons.
MangioneDontMiss
in reply to blitzen • • •The criminal justice system... At this point any more investment is just a waste.
That said, we're being shortsighted. The criminal justice system is far too corrupted and easy to pervert. It has way too many levers the powerful can exploit to get away with almost anything. The powerful want it that way, so the government wants it that way, and so thats the way it is. We need to burn it ALL down. And relying on naive public satiating actions like useless protest, or the belief that this can be all be fixed though voting, when shit is this far-gone, is counterproductive.
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in reply to blitzen • • •Vanth
in reply to return2ozma • • •I think of the "bad" dates I would want to be able to warn other women of that didn't rise to the level of calling the cops. The guy who ordered triple the food and drinks I did and skipped out on the bill. The guy who flat out lied about multiple things and then got irate when I politely excused myself from the date. The MAGA weirdo who went on an unhinged rant about how I needed to submit to him because God said so. I imagine some men have comparable experiences with some anti-social women. The experiences coming to mind were not illegal, but were absolutely things I want to spare my fellow humans from.
I would prefer the dating apps themselves have some mechanism for disincentivizing anti-social behaviors. It would have to be more than a simple 5-star rating.
I wonder how it would work IRL to offer the ability to write a few sentences in response to prompts about a date. The written review is not published as-is, but is used in grouping of many reviews to give a summary about a person. Like the summary product reviews on Amazon now. "Bill's dates found he was prompt and polite. Some dates expressed discomfort at some of his political views" and "Bob's dates warn he is often late and is quick to use foul language to describe women. Multiple dates report no intention to communicate with Bob further". "Ben's dates report he has skipped out on the bill repeatedly, and sends unsolicited dick pics. Multiple dates have blocked him".
The group summary gives a buffer so the person reviewed doesn't know which specific date said what. And ensures the summary doesn't include negative comments about a person unless multiple dates of theirs independently report similar experiences.
Of course a bad actor could ditch their dating profile and start fresh any time they build up enough negative reviews to make their summary look bad. And of course the reviews and the summaries would have to be secured tighter than "Tea" is.
rottingleaf
in reply to Vanth • • •What about a guy who had a panic attack in the very beginning and couldn't stop talking about his deceased dad, then about aunts and uncles, then about the dog, then about architecture, then didn't get the hint because of all the shaking, got petrified when hinted at an alcohol element in the continuation of the meeting and in the end didn't even understand a very direct hints at "only silence can save this" and having at least a sleepover?.. Who only became kinda normal after taking a sedative next morning, still shaking.
Just describing one negative experience I have provided in the past, and that while yeah, it wasn't too cool - maybe lifelong shame is not what I deserve for that ...
(Yes, I know that girl was a hero)
That can't be done without somehow verifying identities of all the people involved. Unless the review app is the same as the dating app. Then there are various technical variants, like some cryptographic connection between the reviewed person's identity, the token representing one date, and a temporary identity for the reviewer, used to sign the review message. Something like that.
But that only for the entity doing the summary, which will have to be trusted with the original reviews. And that "buffer" will remove any kind of verification, unless it's something egghead-smart like a smart contract forming the review on every client, which means every client can also see the original reviews. So I dunno.
Honestly things like this should work like some hybrid of Briar and Freenet. Just entrusting it to a centralized service is as stupid as using Facebook. And in this specific case Briar model is kinda fine - if you synchronize with everyone using the application. You don't need to have the reviews from everyone about everyone, just about people roaming the same general area.
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