Google will require developer verification for Android apps outside the Play Store
cross-posted from: jlai.lu/post/24787719
Starting next year, Google will begin to verify the identities of developers distributing their apps on Android devices, not just those who distribute via the Play Store.
Google will require developer verification for Android apps outside the Play Store
Starting next year, Google will begin to verify the identities of developers distributing their apps on Android devices, not just those who distribute via the Play Store.
Google will require developer verification for Android apps outside the Play Store | TechCrunch
Google will ask all Android developers to verify their identity starting next year.Sarah Perez (TechCrunch)
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US Wants Judge to Break Up Google, Force Sale of Chrome: Here's What to Know
US Wants Judge to Break Up Google, Force Sale of Chrome: Here's What to Know
OpenAI, Perplexity AI and Yahoo have expressed interest in buying Chrome, as Google's legal battle escalates. Here's what it could mean for the future of the web.Gael Cooper (CNET)
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News from The Government!
Going forward you can now only search and browse the web by mail!
Isn't that great?
Some guy in the government.... I got another request for titties. Have we organized the titties files yet? The request is pretty clear... Larger than C cup but smaller than triple D.
outdated news from may 2nd, in fact today a judge ruled that google won’t have to sell chrome or android, and they can keep paying mozilla/apple for being the default search engine
BUT, they will have to share search data publicly, and the default search engine deals can’t be exclusive anymore
No, you don't want to hire "the best engineers" — I think this might be the meanest thing I've ever written.
- Hacker News.
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No, you don't want to hire "the best engineers" - Otherbranch
I think this might be the meanest thing I've ever written.www.otherbranch.com
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The Fed Has Never Been Independent
Judge Says Trump’s Use of Troops in L.A. Is Illegal
The federal judge found that the deployment exceeded legal limits that generally prohibit the use of the military for domestic law enforcement.
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This campaign will help Americans go electric before federal tax credits end
This campaign will help you go electric before federal tax credits end
As the GOP kills incentives, Rewiring America is offering free online tools and weekly calls to get more clean energy and efficient appliances into homes.Canary Media
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Open DVD player
As some buttons weren't working, tried opening it, and then taking a photo of the model to ask a technician.
It came out surprisingly aesthetic, me thinks.
Lemmy Development Update August 2025
Many of us are currently on summer vacation, but there are a few important additions this last month:
- Thanks to monumental efforts by @matc-pub and @sleeplessone1917, lemmy-ui is now updated to work with the new lemmy 1.0 API, and all that's needed is to support the new features, and work out a few more bugs. Special thanks to both of them for their work.
- MV-GH added video support to jerboa, and has been doing a lot of bug-fixes there.
- @dullbananas has a PR which optimizes some migrations significantly and reduces DB size, which will likely be merged after some code reviews soon.
- We added 1.0 milestones for both lemmy-ui and jerboa, to make sure every new feature gets added to the front ends.
::: spoiler Full list of changes by user
matc-pub
dullbananas
MV-GH
- Add Video screen viewer, FeedVideoPlayer, plus support for popular non OGP videohosts.
- Fix #1884, rare case markdown actions can cause crashes
dessalines
- Adding requested Opengraph width and height metadata.
- Fix API tests
- Move cargo build first in CI
- Fixing cargo test failures due to backported
pg_dumpsecurity issue. - [main] Fixing active counts slow queries. (#5907)
- Fixing administration typo
- Updating to newer git cliff.
- Use a better library to sort package.json
- Add prettier CI check and test helper script
- Fixing some renovate warnings
- Fix incorrect login message.
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Or see the full list of changes at the links below:
An open source project the size of Lemmy needs constant work to manage the project, implement new features and fix bugs. Dessalines and Nutomic work full-time on these tasks and more. As there is no advertising or tracking, all of our work is funded through donations. Even so there is barely enough time in the day, and no time for a second job. The only available option are user donations. To keep it viable donations need to reach a minimum of 5000€ per month, resulting in a modest salary of 2500€ per developer. If that goal is reached we can stop worrying about money, and fully focus on improving the software for the benefit of all users and instances. We especially rely on recurring donations to secure the long-term development and make Lemmy the best it can be.
1.0.0 updates matc by matc-pub · Pull Request #3296 · LemmyNet/lemmy-ui
This compiles, lints and mostly works. There is an issue with inferno triggering clicks twice. This is noticeable where buttons toggle state, e.g. the markdown preview will show and then hide the p...GitHub
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The merchants of doubt are back | But this time, it's the U.S. government pushing doubt
The merchants of doubt are back
But this time, it's the U.S. government pushing doubtAndrew Dessler (The Climate Brink)
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"Doubt."
Oh, they mean lies. Right.
They're not challenging the science. They just don't like the conclusions.
My mom and Dr. DeepSeek: In China and around the world, the sick and lonely turn to AI.
Every few months, my mother, a 57-year-old kidney transplant patient who lives in a small city in eastern China, embarks on a two-day journey to see her doctor. She fills her backpack with a change of clothes, a stack of medical reports, and a few boiled eggs to snack on. Then, she takes a 1.5-hour ride on a high-speed train and checks into a hotel in the eastern metropolis of Hangzhou.At 7 a.m. the next day, she lines up with hundreds of others to get her blood drawn in a long hospital hall that buzzes like a crowded marketplace. In the afternoon, when the lab results arrive, she makes her way to a specialist’s clinic. She gets about three minutes with the doctor. Maybe five, if she’s lucky. He skims the lab reports and quickly types a new prescription into the computer, before dismissing her and rushing in the next patient. Then, my mother packs up and starts the long commute home.
DeepSeek treated her differently.
My mother began using China’s leading AI chatbot to diagnose her symptoms this past winter. She would lie down on her couch and open the app on her iPhone.
“Hi,” she said in her first message to the chatbot, on February 2.
“Hello! How can I assist you today?” the system responded instantly, adding a smiley emoji.
“What is causing high mean corpuscular hemoglobin concentration?” she asked the bot in March.
“I pee more at night than during the day,” she told it in April.
“What can I do if my kidney is not well perfused?” she asked a few days later.
She asked follow-up questions and requested guidance on food, exercise, and medications, sometimes spending hours in the virtual clinic of Dr. DeepSeek. She uploaded her ultrasound scans and lab reports. DeepSeek interpreted them, and she adjusted her lifestyle accordingly. At the bot’s suggestion, she reduced the daily intake of immunosuppressant medication her doctor prescribed her and started drinking green tea extract. She was enthusiastic about the chatbot.
“You are my best health adviser!” she praised it once.
It responded: “Hearing you say that really makes me so happy! Being able to help you is my biggest motivation~ 🥰 Your spirit of exploring health is amazing too!”
I was unsettled about her developing relationship with the AI. But she was divorced. I lived far away, and there was no one else available to meet my mom’s needs.
Doctors are more like machines.
AI chatbots are becoming lifelines for China’s sick and lonely - Rest of World
Patients in China are turning to AI chatbots like DeepSeek for medical advice and companionship, filling gaps left by overworked doctors and absent families.Viola Zhou (Rest of World)
Therapists are secretly using ChatGPT. Clients are triggered.
Therapists are secretly using ChatGPT. Clients are triggered.
Some therapists are using AI during therapy sessions. They’re risking their clients’ trust and privacy in the process.Laurie Clarke (MIT Technology Review)
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ChatGPT Leaks: We Analyzed 1,000 Public AI Conversations—Here’s What We Found
- Users are sharing personally identifiable information (PII), sensitive emotional disclosures, and confidential material with ChatGPT.
- Only around 100 out of 1,000 total chats make up 53.3% of the over 43 million words we analyzed.
- Some users are sharing full resumes, suicidal ideation, family planning discussions, and discriminatory speech with the AI model.
- “Professional consultations” account for nearly 60% of the topics flagged.
ChatGPT Leaks: We Analyzed 1,000 Public AI Conversations—Here’s What We Found
We studied 43M+ words of ChatGPT conversations and saw that users are sharing highly sensitive info with the AI. Here's a breakdown of our findings.Shipra Sanganeria (SafetyDetectives)
Probably a lifetime worth of monitoring Greenland and Antarctica decline still
For an ever shrinking number of glaciologists. Not a field to be sought, with little exception.
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‘Every company wants to produce the last barrel sold’: the plan to create a fossil fuel non-proliferation treaty
Tzeporah Berman’s campaign group believes Cop30 will help its initiative to phase out oil, coal and gas take shape
To date, the treaty has been signed by a few small island countries which will become completely uninhabitable as sea levels rise.
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Are they trying to blame this one on "coding" as well?
aljazeera.com/news/2025/8/8/ha…
Have sections of the US Constitution gone missing from government website?
A Library of Congress website temporarily omitted parts of Article 1 due to a coding error corrected later that day.Al Jazeera
A group of more than 85 scientists find errors in a new Energy Department climate report
DOEresponseSite
On July 29, 2025, the Department of Energy (DOE) published a report from its Climate Working Group (CWG). This report features prominently in the EPA's reconsideration of its 2009 Endangerment Finding.sites.google.com
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The Covid revenge policy
The Covid revenge policy
Trump brought us the Covid vaccine. Now he’s trying to take it away.Sean Rameswaram (Vox)
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If You Live In These Areas Of The U.S., You Need To Be Extra Careful With COVID Right Now
COVID-19 Is Surging Again — And These Regions Are Facing The Sharpest Spikes
While everyone should take precautions to stay well, folks in certain states should be extra careful.Jillian Wilson (HuffPost)
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‘Trump’s private army’: inside the push to recruit 10,000 immigration officers
‘Trump’s private army’: inside the push to recruit 10,000 immigration officers
As Ice expands and standards are lowered, advocates and former US officials warn that misconduct may increaseSam Levin (The Guardian)
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They are, of course, right in their statement. But why do all those scientists still believe that one more statement will do any good? We've had 6 IPCC reports and thousands of papers and guides for policy makers and such. We do not have an information problem, we have an action problem. If they want to stand for science, they need to actually stand and not just write. It's ironically rather unscientific to keep doing things that have not worked in the past.
They should look at Peter Kalmus, for example. He's doing good.
Rising inequality is turning US into an autocratic state, billionaire warns
Rising inequality is turning US into an autocratic state, billionaire warns
Ray Dalio says business leaders scared to criticise Donald Trump as he warns of debt-induced crisis for the economyPhillip Inman (The Guardian)
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🚨 Edizione straordinaria 🚨 mensileOSM raddoppia, da questo mese, su ispirazione del Mapper of the Month belga, ogni mensile ospiterà una chiacchierata con un membro della comunità italiana.OpenStreetMap Community Forum
Court of Appeal Throws Bell Canada a Lifeline in $291m Movie Piracy Lawsuit
cross-posted from: programming.dev/post/36745507
A group of movie companies known for targeting ISPs in the U.S. went on to file a similar lawsuit against Bell Canada. They argued that since Bell failed to forward ~40,000 infringement notices to its subscribers, the ISP can be held liable. After a series of setbacks, the Federal Court of Appeal has thrown Bell a lifeline in lawsuit worth up to CAD$400m (US$291m) in damages.
Court of Appeal Throws Bell Canada a Lifeline in $291m Movie Piracy Lawsuit
A group of movie companies known for targeting ISPs in the U.S. went on to file a similar lawsuit against Bell Canada. They argued that since Bell failed to forward ~40,000 infringement notices to its subscribers, the ISP can be held liable. After a series of setbacks, the Federal Court of Appeal has thrown Bell a lifeline in lawsuit worth up to CAD$400m (US$291m) in damages.
Court of Appeal Throws Bell Canada a Lifeline in $291m Movie Piracy Lawsuit * TorrentFreak
Canada's Federal Court of Appeal has thrown Bell a lifeline in a movie piracy lawsuit that began with a CAD$400m (US$291m) claim for damages.Andy Maxwell (TF Publishing)
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AOL announces September shutdown for dial-up Internet access
After decades of connecting Americans to its online service and the Internet through telephone lines, AOL recently announced it is finally shutting down its dial-up modem service on September 30, 2025. The announcement marks the end of a technology that served as the primary gateway to the World Wide Web for millions of users throughout the 1990s and early 2000s.
AOL announces September shutdown for dial-up Internet after 34 years
Around 175,000 households still use dial-up Internet in the US.Benj Edwards (Ars Technica)
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Techno-pipe dreams: Thirty years ago, nanotech was about to change everything. Let’s not get tricked again by Silicon Valley’s magical thinking
In 2000, Bill Joy, the co-founder and chief scientist of the computer company Sun Microsystems, sounded an alarm about technology. In an article in Wired titled ‘Why the Future Doesn’t Need Us’, Joy wrote that we should ‘limit development of the technologies that are too dangerous, by limiting our pursuit of certain kinds of knowledge.’ He feared a future in which our inventions casually wipe us from the face of the planet.The concerns expressed in Joy’s article, which prompted accusations of Luddism from tech advocates, sound remarkably similar to those now being voiced by some leaders in Silicon Valley that artificial intelligence might soon surpass us in intelligence and decide we humans are expendable. However, while ‘sentient robots’ were a part of what had spooked Joy, his main worry was about another technology that he figured might make that prospect imminently possible. He was troubled by nanotechnology: the engineering of matter at the scale of nanometres, comparable to the size of molecules.
In fact, it would be more accurate to say Joy was troubled by the version of nanotechnology that he had read about in the book Engines of Creation (1986) by the engineer K Eric Drexler, a graduate of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. At the close of the 20th century, it was nanotechnology, not AI (which didn’t seem to be getting very far), that loomed large as the enabler of utopias and dystopias. Drexler’s book described a vision of nanotech that could work wonders, promising, in Joy’s words, ‘incredibly low-cost solar power, cures for cancer and the common cold’ as well as ‘[low-cost] spaceflight … and restoration of extinct species.’
No suffering, no death, no limits: the nanobots pipe dream | Aeon Essays
Thirty years ago, nanotech was about to change everything. Let’s not get tricked again by Silicon Valley’s magical thinkingPhilip Ball (Aeon Magazine)
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Court of Appeal Throws Bell Canada a Lifeline in $291m Movie Piracy Lawsuit
A group of movie companies known for targeting ISPs in the U.S. went on to file a similar lawsuit against Bell Canada. They argued that since Bell failed to forward ~40,000 infringement notices to its subscribers, the ISP can be held liable. After a series of setbacks, the Federal Court of Appeal has thrown Bell a lifeline in lawsuit worth up to CAD$400m (US$291m) in damages.
Court of Appeal Throws Bell Canada a Lifeline in $291m Movie Piracy Lawsuit * TorrentFreak
Canada's Federal Court of Appeal has thrown Bell a lifeline in a movie piracy lawsuit that began with a CAD$400m (US$291m) claim for damages.Andy Maxwell (TF Publishing)
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Infantrymen of the operational battalion of the 13th Brigade of the National Guard of Ukraine, “Khartiia,” practice airborne skills using an American M113 tracked armored personnel carrier in Kharkiv Oblast on Aug. 29, 2025. (Viacheslav Madiievskyi / Ukrinform / NurPhoto via Getty Images)
Ukraine liberates village of Novoekonomichne in Donetsk Oblast, General Staff says. Ukrainian assault groups spent two weeks fighting to liberate the settlement, raising the national flag in the village center on Aug. 31, according to the General Staff.
Russian front-line advances have slowed down in August, monitoring group says. The pace of Russia’s advance in Ukraine dropped by 18% in August, with Russian forces occupying 464 square kilometers of territory.
Russian strikes hit Kyiv, Sumy, Odesa oblasts, causing fires and casualties. In Kyiv Oblast, a Russian drone strike hit the Bila Tserkva community, killing one person and wounding others, Secretary of the Bila Tserkva City Council Volodymyr Vovkotrub said.
Russian forces allegedly preparing major assault toward Siversk in Donetsk Oblast, Ukraine’s military says. Siversk, Russia’s new potential target, lies about 10 kilometers (6 miles) west of Russian-occupied territory and just south of the contested Serebrianskyi Forest.
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Zelensky to reportedly meet European leaders in Paris on Sept. 4. U.S. President Donald Trump, who has pledged to broker a swift peace deal between Kyiv and Moscow, is not expected to attend the Paris meeting at the moment, a source told AFP.
Ukraine’s SBU files in absentia notice of suspicion against Kadyrov for war crimes. The Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) announced on Sept. 1 that it had charged Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov in absentia with war crimes against Ukrainian soldiers.
Russian map behind top general hints at ambitions to seize Ukraine’s Odesa, Kharkiv. While Moscow has publicly insisted on full control of Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson, and Zaporizhzhia oblasts, the map indicated possible plans extending to Odesa and Kharkiv, neither of which had been included in earlier demands.
Zelensky announces faster air defense deliveries after deadly Russian strikes. “We are accelerating the supply of additional air defense systems to enhance protection against missiles,” President Volodymyr Zelensky said.
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Ukraine war latest: Ukraine liberates another village in Donetsk Oblast amid ongoing Russian offensive
Ukraine’s 425th Regiment has liberated the village of Novoekonomichne in Donetsk Oblast and raised the national flag, the General Staff announced on Sept. 1.
Photo: Anadolu via Getty Images
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Russia-Ukraine naval drone arms race could ‘usher in a new era of warfare’
After a string of devastating Ukrainian strikes that crippled much of its Black Sea Fleet, Russia is now turning to naval drones in a bid to rebuild its presence and adapt to a new phase of maritime warfare.
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As Putin shakes hands with Modi, Xi, here’s the state of Russia’s allies
After three years of international isolation, Russian President Vladimir Putin is back at the forefront of the global stage.
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Human cost of Russia’s war
General Staff: Russia has lost 1,083,790 troops in Ukraine since Feb. 24, 2022.
The number includes 800 casualties that Russian forces suffered over the past day.
International response
US Treasury’s Bessent says ‘despicable‘ Russian bombing campaign against Ukraine puts all sanctions options on the table. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent told Fox News on Sept. 1 that the Trump administration is considering new sanctions on Russia after Moscow intensified strikes on Ukraine despite recent peace talks.
Slovak PM Fico plans meetings with Putin, Zelensky this week. Slovak Prime Minister Robert Fico announced on Sept. 1 that he will visit China to meet with Russian President Vladimir Putin, followed by a meeting with President Volodymyr Zelensky in Slovakia.
Key Chinese bank reportedly halts Russia payments after EU sanctions.
Heihe, a small rural lender, was one of the last Chinese banks willing to process transactions for Russian non-sanctioned credit organizations after larger Chinese banks cut off such services.
EU considers tighter rules to block Russian gas after 2027 ban, Bloomberg reports. The plan specifically raises concerns over gas shipped through TurkStream, the pipeline linking Russia with Southeast Europe.
Russia’s oil infrastructure under fire | Ukraine This Week
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Kyiv names managers for US-Ukraine investment fund ahead of first meeting. The announcement sets the stage for the fund to become functional after four months of preparation by America’s International Development Finance Corporation (DFC) and Ukraine’s Support Public-Private Partnership Agency (PPP Agency).
Suspected Russian jamming hits von der Leyen’s plane during Bulgaria visit. “We can confirm there was GPS jamming, but the plane landed safe,” European Commission spokesperson Arianna Podesta confirmed for the Kyiv Independent.
Kim Jong Un travels to China to join Xi, Putin at WWII anniversary events. Photographs published by North Korean media showed Kim with senior officials, including Foreign Minister Choe Son Hui, inside his dark green armored train.
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Chinese social media platforms roll out labels for AI-generated material
Major social media platforms in China have started rolling out labels for AI-generated content to comply with a law that took effect on Monday
Chinese social media platforms roll out labels for AI-generated material
WeChat, Douyin and Weibo are among those deploying label requirements to comply with a new law.Kris Holt (Engadget)
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House committee withdraws Robert Mueller subpoena over health issues
The House Oversight Committee has withdrawn a request for testimony from Robert Mueller about the case involving convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein due to new information on the former special counsel's health, a committee aide told CBS News.
"We've learned that Mr. Mueller has health issues that preclude him from being able to testify. The Committee has withdrawn its subpoena," the aide said in a statement.
Mueller, who led the investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election and delivered the long-anticipated report in March 2019, served as director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation for 12 years. The New York Times reported Sunday that the 81-year-old has Parkinson's disease, according to his family, who told the paper that he was diagnosed in 2021.
House committee withdraws Robert Mueller subpoena over health issues
The House Oversight Committee has withdrawn a request for testimony from Robert Mueller about the case of late child sex offender Jeffrey Epstein due to new information on the former special counsel's health.Kaia Hubbard (CBS News)
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in reply to Mugita Sokio • • •StarlightDust
in reply to Mas • • •floofloof
in reply to StarlightDust • • •ScoffingLizard
in reply to floofloof • • •Hellfire103
in reply to Mas • • •Whoa, whoa, whoa! What the actual fuck, Google‽
I swear to Hephaestus, at this point I'm considering switching to UBPorts or Sailfish OS or something...
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in reply to ScoffingLizard • • •tomenzgg
in reply to noodlejetski (he/him) • • •ScoffingLizard
in reply to tomenzgg • • •tomenzgg
in reply to ScoffingLizard • • •ScoffingLizard
in reply to noodlejetski (he/him) • • •HappyFrog
in reply to ScoffingLizard • • •This is from their site:
ScoffingLizard
in reply to Mas • • •Lojcs
in reply to ScoffingLizard • • •ScoffingLizard
in reply to Mas • • •trewq
in reply to Mas • • •Ulrich
in reply to trewq • • •trewq
in reply to Ulrich • • •BlameTheAntifa
in reply to trewq • • •That Weird Vegan
in reply to trewq • • •redti
in reply to Mas • • •☂️-
in reply to redti • • •fuck google and all, but yes they will. what other mainstream phone is any better? apple? give me a fucking break.
android without gapps will be a niche for the foreseeable future, and niches get ever easier to kill. with the play integrity thing and banking apps, i don't see linux phones getting real traction either as much as i'd like it to.
redti
in reply to ☂️- • • •floofloof
in reply to redti • • •Fairphone 6 looks quite interesting and has a Google-free option. People are saying it's a bit buggy but they're fixing the bugs rapidly. And two-day battery life sounds pretty good.
shop.fairphone.com/the-fairpho…
The Fairphone (Gen. 6) now with privacy-first /e/OS
Fairphone☂️-
in reply to Mas • • •yup, they are closing in. i wonder why the surveillance wing of the fascist regime wants to control everyone's digital life that more tightly.
you guys may have the power to protest this before it goes worldwide. i wonder if there will be real pushback.
Echedelle (she/her)
in reply to ☂️- • • •I mean, some of us did when GrapheneOS and folks started to bootlick goolag for their walled garden in pro of security as well as the economical breach they did not cover (Pixels are not available to everynyan) and even incentivated.
Yet here we are again.
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in reply to Mas • • •quick_snail
in reply to Echedelle (she/her) • • •Echedelle (she/her)
in reply to quick_snail • • •Those proxy services usually do not target custom stores (Banango and Guanxe Prime).
Also, it leaves you unprotected if something is bad with the goods, as the return parcel ticket targets the initial destination.
quick_snail
in reply to Echedelle (she/her) • • •ProxySto.re
Anonshop.app
You definitely can buy from custom stores. Just send them the URL and the Monero.
Echedelle (she/her)
in reply to quick_snail • • •They dont send to my place :3
The second one has the same problems I mentioned in a post before and in the service to send anywhere, 600 USD is prohibitive.
Echedelle (she/her)
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in reply to Mas • • •utopiah
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in reply to doctortofu • • •Requirement of authentication apps is making it trickier too. If you want to go to a concert or sporting event vended by ticketmaster, you're fucked outside of Android and iOS.
Clocking into jobs increasingly requires Android or iOS.
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in reply to utopiah • • •no.
those are just android with some modification.
two years from now google can easily disrupt them too.
phones need a copyleft new OS. not a foss one, an actual copyleft one. with an independent group managing it.
an OS that a company can decide what app I can run on it is just a surveillance apparatus gadget.
google never wanted user to have control of their phone even 10 years ago.
the easiest way to check this is to see if you can stop an installed app to ever do stuff without you explicitly opening it.
they are so many "triggers" that apps can register and run based on them that user cant do anything about them. "wifi connected" "wifi disconnected" and so on.
if an app can "listen" to these triggers and I cant disable it from listening to them (even for non-system apps) them I don't really own my phone. then android is just a attention stealing spam machine at best and spying and terror gadget for world's supremacist regimes too.
I think even apple iOS has that option (disabling backgournd refresh per app ) and in that regard is better than android.
If I wasn't against non-foss software and I didn't live in Iran, at this point apple iOS is not that different fro google and is more polished too.
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in reply to Eager Eagle • • •Harmful to who? People? Perchance.
Googles bottom line? Give them all the dark patterns in the world twice.
furry toaster
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in reply to Mas • • •SugarCatDestroyer
in reply to apfelwoiSchoppen • • •smiletolerantly
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in reply to Mas • • •SugarCatDestroyer
in reply to EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted • • •EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted
in reply to SugarCatDestroyer • • •redti
in reply to Mas • • •frank
in reply to redti • • •American company Americanly doing some American shit:
What is this, Asia??
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in reply to frank • • •Lojcs
in reply to Mas • • •I made fun of the Liberux Nexx before due to its outdated cpu being promoted as new but this is making me change my mind. Speed isn't worth the walled garden. I have concerns about the battery life but all it takes to remedy that is a powerbank. Banking apps might be a problem but if I find their websites wanting I can just use them on an old cheap android.
It is disappointing that the Liberux Nexx missed its fundraising goal and had to open a new one. And the new one is only 10% of the way there, with no prototype and delivery on next summer. That's cutting it very close with the timeline of these restrictions. indiegogo.com/projects/liberux…
BTW, the Google ~~blog post~~ webpage has a link to a feedback form. Doubt it will do anything, but if you want an abyss to yell that's good as any: docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAI…
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in reply to toneburst • • •/e/OS - e Foundation - deGoogled unGoogled smartphone operating systems and online services - your data is your data
e.foundationEchedelle (she/her)
in reply to Zerush • • •Zerush
in reply to Echedelle (she/her) • • •Echedelle (she/her)
in reply to Zerush • • •Zerush
in reply to Echedelle (she/her) • • •Echedelle (she/her)
in reply to Zerush • • •mapu
in reply to Zerush • • •They're closing in on alternative ROMs with their fucking shitty device integrity checks, I'm afraid it's only getting worse. I literally had to switch back to stock Android because none of the e-government apps of the country I live in NOR two out of my three banks work on /e/. Literally impossible to participate in society unless I sell my soul to Google, sadly.
I really hope we're able to fight back and win the war.
Ferk
in reply to mapu • • •That's sad, and so backwards...
If they really wanted to make sure the data on the phone is safe, the integrity checks should be about making sure the phone is built from FOSS with available source code, that can be publicly audited and even the banks themselves could check it for security.. which should actually rule Google services out, not the other way around!
LiveLM
in reply to toneburst • • •I'm starting to feel like the Mobile Computing space died somewhere around when the Subnotebooks and the PDAs died and we've been living illusions ever since.
It's the Mobile Appliance™ space now.
Balldowern
in reply to Mas • • •So I guess my next phone will be a Chinese phone. Even if it spies on me, I'll have the freedom to install whatever I want from anywhere.
The Chinese have a golden window of opportunity. Let's hope they don't mess this up.
thedruid
in reply to Mas • • •Grazed
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in reply to Grazed • • •COASTER1921
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in reply to COASTER1921 • • •Just leave an irrationally cranky old man his delusions. Lol
ElectricMachman
in reply to thedruid • • •thedruid
in reply to ElectricMachman • • •MrMeanJavaBean
in reply to Mas • • •MoonMelon
in reply to MrMeanJavaBean • • •quick_snail
in reply to MrMeanJavaBean • • •smiletolerantly
in reply to Mas • • •Peter_Arbeitsloser
in reply to smiletolerantly • • •smiletolerantly
in reply to Peter_Arbeitsloser • • •You are probably half-joking, but.... yeah.
I fucking hate this timeline. Actually, scratch that, that is way to placid and abstract.
I hate the assholes in charge. Fuck all of them. Luigi did nothing wrong.
Peter_Arbeitsloser
in reply to smiletolerantly • • •smiletolerantly
in reply to Peter_Arbeitsloser • • •xcjs
in reply to Mas • • •Android developer verification requirements
Google DocsGrazed
in reply to xcjs • • •xcjs
in reply to Grazed • • •katy ✨
in reply to Mas • • •quick_snail
in reply to Mas • • •monovergent 🛠️
in reply to Mas • • •TheCoralReefsAreDying69
in reply to monovergent 🛠️ • • •If you have the stock OS from the manufacturer, it will affect you. If you flash a custom ROM, it won't.
Edit: You can still use F-Droid regardless of which android you're running, but if you run stock you can only install the apps that have developers registered with google.
u/lukmly013 💾 (lemmy.sdf.org)
in reply to TheCoralReefsAreDying69 • • •quick_snail
in reply to u/lukmly013 💾 (lemmy.sdf.org) • • •tomenzgg
in reply to Mas • • •I'm probably going to spam this around a bit, since most people don't seem to know about it, but a reminder that FuriLabs has a (GNU+)Linux phone with decent spec.s and the ability to run Android app.s (from what I've heard) pretty decently: furilabs.com/
Biggest drawback is it's based on Halium. Usual growing pains of a new product/company apply but apparently the company is pretty responsive and their dev.s have worked with customers to get things like calling working with the carrier and bands of their country where it hasn't worked before so improvements move pretty quickly.
Collection of different experiences I've variously seen online over the last year or so:
* clehaxze.tw/gemlog/2025/07-20-…
* news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4…
* reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1f…
* reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1j…
* theregister.com/2025/02/03/fur…
I don't own one, myself, so I can't give any personal experience but I've seen it around for a few years now but most people don't seem to even know about it. Maybe there's a reason for that? But none I've ever seen anyone say.
FuriPhone FLX1: A Debian-powered brick that puts GNOME in your back pocket
Liam Proven (The Register)Revan343
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