Next Sosyal is a new social media platform with close ties to the Turkish ruling party, that is based on Mastodon but does not federate
A shuffle in the places, forums and sites to talk about #activitypub, with new owners for forum SocialHub, the activitypub.rocks website now managed by the W3C SocialCG, and the new activitypub.space forum
Next Sosyal is a new Turkish social media platform that is based on Mastodon. The platform has not enabled federation, and is thus not accessible from the fediverse. Next Sosyal is endorsed by Turkish ruling party AKP, and president Erdogan recently made his first post on the platform. Erdoğan quoted a poem from a prominent Turkish poet, and posted “Are you ready?”, with the hashtag “We’re starting,” along with emojis of the Turkish flag, the Earth and a rocket.
Next Sosyal is developed by Selçuk Bayraktar, who owns military drone company Baykar and is the son-in-law of President Erdogan. The platform is branded as a “local and national” alternative to global platforms such as X and Facebook. Bayraktar describes the platform as a safer and cleaner space for constructive dialogue free from trolling, disinformation and Western platform algorithms.
The Nordic Monitor news site further reports: “Several ministries and public entities now maintain official Next Sosyal profiles. Staff in these offices report that social media guidance increasingly favors the platform. Press releases, bulletins and announcements are expected to appear on Next before being shared on global platforms. Some officials say internal memos suggested de-emphasizing X and Instagram entirely. In addition, some major corporations have reportedly started opening accounts on Next out of fear of government pressure.”
Bayraktar claims that the app now has over 1 million users. Since Next Sosyal is a slight reskin of Mastodon, it means that the same API also works. API calls to Next Sosyal on August 22nd showed an exact user count of 850.000, and as of September 2 the API claims a total of 1.100.000 accounts. Registering on the app requires a Turkish phone number, making it difficult for me to verify these numbers by looking at timeline activity, but the exact roundness of these numbers does raise some suspicions for me.
The platform was originally released without any reference to Mastodon’s source code. Mastodon is released under the AGPL license, which means that you can use, modify and distribute the software freely, as long as you publish the code under the same AGPL license. After some requests from the Mastodon organisation, Next Sosyal is now compliant with this, and explicitly mentions that “NSocial is an open source Mastodon-based social media platform developed by TEKNOFEST entrepreneurs.” on their About page.
We live in a world where authoritarian rulers seem to have a better grasp of current social media dynamics than many democratic leaders have. Both Trump and Erdogan understand the value of building a social media platform where they have a direct connection with their supporters, and can control message distribution. That both leaders use Mastodon for this, while democratic leadership shows little interest in building out their own social media distribution platforms on the open social web is painful.
In Other News
Last week I wrote about SocialHub, a forum to discuss ActivityPub, and how it fits into a larger understanding of the ‘substrate’ layer of the fediverse. One of the points I made is that the communication layer underneath the fediverse (meaning places to discuss and collaborate on ActivityPub, for example) is fairly decentralised. The positive effect is that this creates a distribution of power, nobody can control all the conversations that happen about ActivityPub. This also means that coordination is more difficult, as developers are spread out over multiple places. There has been quite some movement this week in this space of “what are the places to talk about ActivityPub”:
The direct cause for writing the article was SocialHub potentially shutting down. A new administrator has been found, workers cooperative Pavillion. The cooperative was hired by forum software Discourse to create the ActivityPub plugin for the forum.
Activitypub.rocks is the ‘official’ website for the ActivityPub protocol, but it has not been updated for almost five years. Christine Lemmer-Webber, one of the co-authors of ActivityPub, has decided to hand over the website to the SocialCG, the community group for ActivityPub that is part of the W3C. A new initiative to work on the website from the SocialCG is led by Johannes Ernst, who also organises the FediForum conferences.
Activitypub.space is a new forum to discuss ActivityPub, created by NodeBB developer Julian Lam.
Fediverse software updates:
A blog by the WordPress ActivityPub team with more details on their latest updates, with expanded moderation tooling and improvements under the hood.
Piefed now has a build-in discovery tool to find new communities to subscribe to.
Blogging platform WriteFreely has further fediverse integrations with their latest update: it now displays ‘likes’ on WriteFreely blog posts made on other platforms. Other platforms such as Mastodon will now also show a preview or summary of a WriteFreely post, in addition to a link.
LemmyBridge is a new browser extension that connects you to Lemmy discussions for any website you visit.
Pixelfed releases the ‘Stories’ feature on their Android app.
And an overview of all fediverse software updates of the week.
And some more links:
WeDistribute writes about the Client-to-Server part of ActivityPub, a part of the protocol that is rarely used, and how the Social Web Foundation is working on promoting its use.
A tutorial that explains how you can do podcasting with PeerTube.
FedInspect, a desktop application for analysing fediverse server configurations and features.
In Spain, dozens of ships carrying civilian activists and loaded with humanitarian aid departed Barcelona on Monday, bound for the Gaza Strip. The Global Sumud Flotilla is the largest attempt yet to challenge Israel’s blockade of Gaza. Swedish activist Greta Thunberg helped to organize the flotilla.
Greta Thunberg: “Israel are very clear about their genocidal intent. They want to erase the Palestinian nation. They want to take over the Gaza Strip. And if that doesn’t make people act, if that doesn’t make people go out of their couch and take action, fill the streets, get organized, then I don’t know what will.”
In Australia, peace activists held a nonviolent protest Monday blocking the entrance of Port Melbourne, demanding Australia suspend trade with Israel. Meanwhile, in Colorado, dozens of Jewish peace activists and allies rallied on Friday outside the Denver office of Senator Michael Bennet.
How that fat wino ever got close enough to a woman to be in a position to assault her in the fisrt place is the most puzzling question in this case. What a repugnant man...
Peru’s Congress has rejected a long-delayed proposal to create the Yavari Mirim Indigenous Reserve. That's a 1.17 million-hectare tract of Amazon rainforest on the Brazil border meant to protect five uncontacted tribes.
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Speaking at a rally on the docks of Genoa, one of Europe's largest ports, a dockworker representing the USB union said that if communication with the flotilla were lost “even for just 20 minutes,” port workers would immediately block all shipments to Israel, regardless of their content.
I have zero doubt that Israel will arrest them, so its really just a question of whether the port workers pull through on their promise.
It's an email scam as old as the Nigerian prince asking for money: someone claiming they hacked your webcam and have recorded you in an act of self-pleasure. Unless you pay up, the video will be sent to friends and family. The whole thing's a lie, of course, but a new type of malware has made this form of sextortion a reality.
I have no doubt that the muslims would do the exact same thing, if they had the chance.
That's how religious genocide works. The religion doesn't matter, they all do it. It's how 'the largest fictional religion in the world' game works, and all religions have been playing it for thousands of years.
Not the best fictional religion. Not the kindest. The one with the most people and control.
I have no doubt that the muslims would do the exact same thing, if they had the chance.
This belief is a prerequisite to turning a blind eye to the Palestinian Genocide or perhaps it is simply the last defense people have for turning a blind eye. Is that you? Is that why you are behaving like a child on such a serious topic?
Shame on you for responding to a genocide only with laughably speculative handwaving about how in a wildly different situation Muslims who are victims of a genocide would commit genocide.
Freund wasn’t looking for a backdoor when he noticed SSH connections to his Debian testing system taking 500 milliseconds longer than usual. As a database engineer benchmarking PostgreSQL performance, he initially dismissed the anomaly. But the engineer’s curiosity persisted.
The backdoor’s technical sophistication was breathtaking. Hidden across multiple stages, from modified build scripts that only activated under specific conditions to obfuscated binary payloads concealed in test files, the attack hijacked SSH authentication through an intricate chain of library dependencies. When triggered, it would grant the attacker complete remote access to any targeted system, bypassing all authentication and leaving no trace in logs.
The backdoored versions 5.6.0 and 5.6.1 had been released in February and March 2024, infiltrating development versions of Fedora, Debian, openSUSE, and Arch Linux. Ubuntu’s upcoming 24.04 LTS release, which would have deployed to millions of production systems, was mere weeks away.
The technical backdoor was merely the final act of a three-year psychological operation that began not with code, but with studying a vulnerable human being.
Exhausted volunteers maintaining critical infrastructure alone. From personal experience with contributor burnout to AI-powered future threats, here’s why our digital foundation is crumbling.
A new working paper authored by three Stanford researchers, titled "Canaries in the Coal Mine? Six Facts about the Recent Employment Effects of Artificial Intelligence", claims that GenAI has significantly reduced employment opportunities for individ…
So the author's argument is that youth have just gone to gig work instead of traditional jobs. OK, maybe true, but first of all, this is not a good thing on its own either. And secondly, we have to consider why gig work even exists, aside from being a fresh new way to exploit workers and deny them the traditional protections of the labor market. Because there is a specific reason gig work exists right at this very transitional moment in the workforce, and I'll give you a spoiler: It exists because of AI.
AI is going to do the same thing to gig work that gig work has already done to traditional youth employment. It represents the transitional step from traditional human labor to full automation. That's part of the reason companies are using gig work in the first place. It makes it really easy to treat workers as instantly and transparently interchangable in an extremely efficient and flexible way. And they are going to start interchanging them not just with other gig workers, but AI drones -- self driving cars, drones, and other machine infrastructure as it gets developed and matures. The flexibility allows them to absorb the impact of any issues with the technology by instantly falling back to more "human gigs" when needed, but whenever the technology becomes successful, the human jobs will just instantly evaporate as quickly as the technology can roll out, and not a single thought will ever be spared for the millions of gig working humans waiting for their phone to buzz for the next gig that will never come while looking at bills that are never going to get paid. That's literally the goal that gig work exists to enable, it's fundamentally designed for the AI endgame, it's inevitably going to leave millions of people suddenly and quietly unemployed and unemployable without warning or even any official notification when it's happening, and it's coming sooner than we think.
So the author’s argument is that youth have just gone to gig work instead of traditional jobs. OK, maybe true, but first of all, this is not a good thing on its own either. And secondly, we have to consider why gig work even exists, aside from being a fresh new way to exploit workers and deny them the traditional protections of the labor market. Because there is a specific reason gig work exists right at this very transitional moment in the workforce, and I’ll give you a spoiler: It exists because of AI.
Considering the author is possibly the most relevant scholar on (against?) platform work, I'm quite sure he would agree with you. The article implies that AI is deskilling and displacing workers and that's intrinsically a bad thing.
And secondly, we have to consider why gig work even exists, aside from being a fresh new way to exploit workers and deny them the traditional protections of the labor market. Because there is a specific reason gig work exists right at this very transitional moment in the workforce, and I’ll give you a spoiler: It exists because of AI.
Wrong, gig work existed way before the advent of AI, even before the advent of Internet and PC. It was not uncommon that teenagers worked during the summer holidays to have money to go on holidays, to buy themself something or to pay for school or other activities. The problem is that for some people it is the only way to work, and this was happening way before companies started to use AI for everything.
You're understanding of "gig work" is comically outdated. You sound naive or trollish. "Jobs for teens" like fast food work, grocery clerking, and working at movie theaters have always been taken by people who need "real jobs" and not just teens looking for extra money. So you're wrong that these careers exclusively for kids to get pocket money ever existed, certainly not in living memory.
Secondly, OP isn't talking about working the carwash for the summer. He's talking about Uber and AirBNB. Maybe you heard of them? Over the last decade, they've caused massive disruption of the hotel and taxi industries by allowing thousands of unlicensed and unregulated "micro entrepreneurs" 🤮 to create a new economy of pay-per-task workers who end up owning all the physical assets (which rapidly deprecate in value) but none of the infrastructure or investments (which do not, or do so on much different schedules).
Houses being bought up for short term rentals has contributed to the housing crisis. Its caused economic harm to inner cities. It's a looking part of the polycrisis destroying the practical economy and the planet's livability. But yeah man, the real problem is lazy people just don't want real adult jobs, give me a fucking break.
I agree with most all of that, but shit jobs for teens were all teens in the day. We started in those shit jobs, and our coworkers were all peers. That's why so many middle-aged people don't get the modern paradigm. The modern world no longer reflects our youth, at all.
I worked at Lowe's for 5-months. But you're right. Most of the gig workers coming through were older than me. I'm 54. Imagine that.
There was no tech middleman taking in part of the profit while making every other part of the transaction a net negative for everyone else though. I do agree that AI might not have much to do with it though.
Reuters News on Friday withdrew a four-minute video containing an exchange between Russian President Vladimir Putin and Chinese President Xi Jinping discussing the possibility that humans can live to 150 years old, after China state TV demanded its removal and withdrew the legal permission to use it.
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KLM ground staff, represented by unions CNV and FNV, will stage a strike at Amsterdam Schiphol Airport on Wednesday, September 10, from 8:00–10:00, with a longer four-hour strike planned the following week. The action follows dissatisfaction with a new collective labour agreement signed by KLM and smaller unions.
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Let me connect a few dots for you that may be a key part of the Trump-Epstein drama and may even be what Trump has been trying to keep hidden in those files. I’…
Israeli leadership is treating Gaza like a war crime buffet at this point.
"I mean, if genocide's on the menu, why not sprinkle in a little murder-children-by-starvation and robot warfare? It's my cheat ~~day~~ year and a half, after all."
“Before he meddles with this sacred site, the President should start by honoring survivors and supporting the families of victims,” Gov. Kathy Hochul said in a statement.
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Technology giant Apple was accused by authors in a lawsuit on Friday of illegally using their copyrighted books to help train its artificial intelligence systems, part of an expanding legal fight over protections for intellectual property in the AI era.
In the 30th National March for Palestine, more than 300,000 people poured into the heart of London today in one of the largest public movements the city has seen in decades, joining the Global Day of Action for Gaza to demand an end to the bloodshed. From Russell Square to Whitehall, streets were transformed into a sea of flags, placards, and chants calling for a permanent ceasefire, an end to Israel’s siege, and accountability for war crimes committed against the Palestinian people.
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Tested until January 2026 before being fully implemented, the reform allows workers for companies like Uber and Didi to benefit from the same social rights as salaried employees.
"Even in the most difficult situations, India and Russia have always walked shoulder to shoulder," Modi said. "Our close cooperation is important not only for the people of both countries but also for global peace, stability and prosperity."
"Had an excellent meeting with President Putin," Modi said on X on Monday, adding that they had discussed cooperating "in all sectors, including trade, fertilisers, space, security and culture."
"Our Special and Privileged Strategic Partnership remains a vital pillar of regional and global stability," Modi said
Russia is a nuclear state run by a murderous sociopath. There were plenty of legitimate concerns about how they might react to aggressive military action. Personally, I'm not sure they even have any functioning nukes at this point but there's not enough compelling evidence to back that theory up. Treating them with caution is still warranted.
That said, more should have been done to shore up Ukraine sooner. It was pretty obvious that annexing Crimes was just a test run of the broader objective.
you're just letting him hold the world hostage with that reasoning.
there was an agreement to protect Ukraine. the West failed to uphold their part and now the entirety of democratic Western civilization is on the ropes.
It sounded to me like he was saying that prevention makes sense but intervention does not. By the time Russia can take a territory it’s unfortunately too late because actively fighting them to eject them escalates us toward nuclear conflict. That’s not letting him hold the world hostage, it’s saying we should prepare the world to resist him.
UN human rights and environmental experts on Thursday welcomed Brazilian President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva’s decision to veto 63 provisions of a sweeping environmental licensing bill, calling the move a decisive step in protecting human rights, Indigenous communities, and the planet.
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UN human rights and environmental experts on Thursday welcomed Brazilian President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva’s decision to veto 63 provisions of a sweeping environmental licensing bill, calling the mo...
Maintaining finances carefully is crucial for running a successful business. In the business field, various operations will be held as day-to-day activities, and to meet all the needs of the daily activities, business finance is essential.
Maintaining finances carefully is crucial for running a successful business. In the business field, various operations will be held as day-to-day activities, and to meet all the needs of the daily activities, business finance is essential. This is the place where working capital management plays a major role.
Smart and effective management of working capital helps in controlling the overall business efficiencies, and it is the primary goal of it. Since working capital management is essential for every business, all business owners should be aware of its details. This blog gives all the details about working capital management. Continue to read and get valuable details about working capital management.
What is Working Capital Management?
Working capital management is the process of managing the assets and liabilities of the business funds by leading the business in a profitable way. This working capital management process is used to cover the day-to-day activities of the business, further investments, unexpected emergencies, etc. The illustration of the working capital formula is given as follows.
Working capital = Current assets of the business – Current liabilities of the business
The current assets of the business include the accounts receivable and current liabilities of the business include the accounts payable.
Some of the major components of working capital are mentioned below.
Accounts Receivable:The amount that owed to the business is referred to as accounts receivable. Taking effective measures on these unpaid amounts helps in the working capital management.
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For effective working capital management, some strategies can be followed, and they are as follows.
Making Early Payments:Encouraging the clients to make early payments helps in enhanced working capital. If prompt payments are not received from the clients, then consider offering penalties for those who make late payments and reduce the time for credit notes.
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Meet the Business Liabilities:Consistently paying off your liabilities to vendors can improve your credibility and lead to extended credit options from them. Failing to make the payment easily damages the vendor relationship.
Safeguard From Fraudulent Activities:As fraudulent activities are increasing day by day, losing even a single rupee is a heavy loss for the business.
Benefits of Working Capital Management:
The business cash flow is enhanced by better working capital management. It also increases the business's flexibility and profitability. Effective decisions can be made for the welfare of the business. Implementing the working capital management is crucial for the business growth, and it gives better results. So, properly maintain your business's effective management of working capital and discover the changes and developments in the day-to-day activities of the business.
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I have an old android xiaomi phone with 128 GB of storage that I want to use as a music streaming server that I can access from my current phone and computer.
I want to know if this is possible and if it is, can it be done without rooting?
Don't have experience with setting up servers, but one idea I have for when I go set up one of my own is a Linux-based server through Termux. Only problem is if you need to change permissions for Android files, as then you'd need root to run sudo-based commands.
I second the use of copyparty. It's very easy to setup under Termux, and has a quite nice web UI, and since it exposes the raw files, you can play them in anything that supports playing remote files, like VLC
If you're hoping to use your phone as is and just install a "server app" onto it to use as a streaming service, I have some bad news for you.
That's definitely not gonna work. If you think you're gonna be able to run a server without root, that's also probably not going to work.
You're most likely going to have to install a custom ROM onto your phone or some version of Linux onto your phone in order to do the thing you want to do.
I don't have much knowledge of it, but the Android communities will probably be the better place to reach out about running a server from a phone
No, I totally understand that, but for the thing you're doing, if you take away piracy, you're just trying to run a server on an Android phone, so you're gonna find better results in an Android forum from sysadmins who want to run a server.
People get nervous with torrenting and pirating, so when you go on the Android forums, don't mention that's the reason you're looking for this.
whatever you go with, you might have an issue with it being constantly plugged in if that's your plan.
I used to run a piratebox off a nexus s years ago and I'd regularly unplug it to let it run off the battery for a while. constant charging can cause excess heat and that's not good for the battery.
Constant plugin isn't actually the problem. When the battery's in good condition, they can stay plugged in and it only charges when it hits 99%, it stops again at 100. But as the battery gets older, the cells degrade and the resistance gets higher. They can start trying to push to 100% when it can no longer get here. At that point, they're supposed to be some smart software to determine that you can no longer charge to that level and reduce the capacity that tries to charge to. But if you never discharge fully and recharge that software often doesn't work.
The best solution for the condition is to use software that makes the phone stop charging it 80%. It takes the battery a very, very long time to lose 20% of its capacity if you don't hit the overcharging over temperature issues.
Having the battery stop at 50% or 80% the battery will probably outlast the hardware.
To properly do this the phone has to support it at hardware level. Pixel and iPhone have this feature but don't know about yours. There are apps like battery guru which will alert you, but you have to manually unplug at that point.
Just install a switch that hard-disconnects the battery from the phone so's you can run it off the outlet without fear of it constantly charging the battery
I wouldn't. I like the idea of repurposing old electronics, but the issue is, it's meant to be a low powered device meant to run off a battery.
You can run Plex off a RPi and those are like $20. A bit more if you want the case and heatsinks and such. They are also (similar to the Android) low powered ARM64 computers, but the hardware and software is more open.
I also have an old 128GB Android phone. I use it as a cosplay prop and I treat it like an iPod Touch. I'm primarily an iPhone guy, so of course it has Apple Music on it, but I also know Android and know where Android excels, so it also has Firefox with uBlock Origin, and Nova Launcher Prime. It's way better to type on because the iOS keyboard has always been dogshit.
Also, you're in the Piracy community. Not to be pedantic, but this is where you'd go to ask how to get the files to populate your music streaming server with. That's my weakness there — I mostly self-host stuff I've bought and ripped myself. There are good tools and you'll find good advice here, but something something old dogs, something something new tricks (me being the old dog, not you, unless you are, in which case, good on you for trying to break the mould). Right. So, what you want is the Self-Hosted community. Don't ask them about where to get the music (that's this community), but they can help on hardware and software. Me, I just use Plex, and I host it off a Mac mini. My desktop computer. You don't need to spend nearly that much on a server. My Mac is a couple generations out now, but it's still overkill for a music server.
The only time I use either of my phones as servers in any capacity is to like send a few files or something — and yes, I can do it just as capably with either. Honestly though both of them can easily host a file server another phone (either platform) can connect to and download from.
Non-Zero Pi models haven't been even close to $20 for a while now. Any Pi these days is gonna be $60-80 for a fully functioning setup (Pi + SD + case + power adapter), at the minimum. And I wouldn't run Plex off a Pi Zero, those have more or less the same specs as the 1st/2nd gen Pis.
Termux and Termux:Boot should be able to do this, but make sure you can limit the charge to something like 50% since it'll always be plugged in and keep an eye on the settings/limits so it doesn't run hot.
This consolidation of power is a dream come true for the Big Tech platforms, but it’s a nightmare for users. While the megacorporations get more traffic and a whole lot more user data (read: profit), users are left with far fewer community options and a bland, corporate surveillance machine instead of a vibrant public sphere. The internet we all fell in love with is a diverse and colorful place, full of innovation, connection, and unique opportunities for self-expression. That internet—our internet—is worth defending.
If you live in Mississippi, you may have noticed that you are no longer able to log into your Bluesky or Dreamwidth accounts from within the state. That’s because, in a chilling early warning sign for the U.S.
Hopefully, in the EU at least, the verification will be provided by the government. Like a 2FA, meaning Big Tech would only get a verified token and nothing else.
The government already got passports with our face, and have had it for many years. They could use that information.
That would mean that any platform could implement this verification, and never get hold on any data.
one of the big problems that isn't solved by this is what gets to be behind verification. who decides what kids aren't allowed to see. we've seen already that most of the world's governments can't really be trusted with what is adult content and not.
When I was in highschool my friends parents had child lock bullshit on his computer, poor sod couldn't even goto wikipedia because there are articles with naughty words.
We need to reframe the discussion from "it's for the children" to "it's for lazy parents".
People are keen to scapegoat parents, and here it's the truth. They don't want to use existing opt-in controls, or put the damn computer where they can keep an eye on Little Timmy while he uses it. Make the entirery of the legal system do it for you!
Ok, so I also hate the "protect the children" argument, and there are certainly plenty of lazy parents around.
However, if everyone 10 year old at school has a phone and a Facebook account, it's just so much more difficult for parents who are not lazy to hold the line. Its an extraordinarily difficult situation. You'd make your kid's a pariah by upholding a basic standard of care.
By prohibiting access for kids you set the basic societal standard. Yes it will be circumvented but you enable parents to uphold appropriate restrictions.
Is it worth it? Probably not. Its not a good thing but as a dad I can see the intention.
I'm surprised there isn't more of a crowdsourced solution-- community maintained block/allow lists and pluggable tools.
Part of the reason filters suck right now is that they're sold to turboprudes and people pushing compliance solutions that will placate litigious turboprudes. So you get blocking all of Wikipedia and .edu/.gov because three pages have an anatomical diagram of a breast. The kids are frustrated, normal parents have to keep unblocking legit stuff, and nobody wins.
If you could pick from easily managed lists sponsored by groups you personally trusted, with responsive appeals systems, people might be more willing to use them.
The ad-blocker ecosystem has a lot of precedent for how to work this stuff.
"protect the children" is such a fucking bullshit excuse. If they gave a fuck about children, they'd stop them being slaughtered in schools every fucking day.
You make a good point. Now, I have 2 kids (12 and 10), and they use phones (when one of us allow them to). However, and thank God for that, the school they go to has banned cell phones entirely, which effectively reduces the unsupervised exposure to stuff we don't want them to be on yet. Additionally, I removed everything 'big tech' from those phones, so they use Signal to communicate with their friends and family, get to stream content from my Jellybean instance, and have all types of DAV in my server to keep files, contacts, calendars and whatnot synchronized. Plus, I keep them tracked with my own Traccar instance when they go out, and I audit their devices pretty regularly.
I am all too aware we cannot shield them from everything. Some things will fall through the cracks, but that's been the case even when we were kids (dad playboy mag left carelessly somewhere easy to grab?). This does not mean that I will allow, or even want, the government of any country deciding how my kids are raised. That's my wife's and my job, nobody else's.
Having said that, I wholeheartedly agree with the fact that lazy parents are the ones that help the obscure intent of governments and large corporations drive this kind of shit to spy and control us.
Unfortunately the largest percentage of parents worldwide are just that lazy and irresponsible, and unless they change that, this will be the life and challenge of actually responsible parents. Sadly, I don't see those parents suddenly caring for their kids,it just doesn't happen. Why would they drop such convenience?
No. There's no "hopefully" anything when it comes to this bullshit. It's bad for the individual, full stop. This is not a thing to compromise on, because any compromise at all will eventually harm the users (though leaks/hacks, or government overreach, etc.) without any actual benefit or offset to them.
If I have to verify myself I simply won't use it, I really don't care, there's nothing so important online that I need to prove my identity to see it. (Banking and shit like that aside of course). Social media? Give me a break I'm already over it before all this ID shit. I hope it all burns to the ground.
this. I refuse to make more accounts, and verify personal info. Ive been prepping for the big disconnect from the internet as a result. there will come a time when it just won't be usable
Same. I know there are easy ways around it but I'm not going to use them, and I wish more people could take this attitude - if everyone cut down their Internet usage in response to this ID stuff things would quickly start to turn around
The fact that you recognise it would be a struggle should honestly spur you on even more to do it. People got by for a long time without the Internet and even though now the same infrastructure they'd have used is at best a shell of its former self if not gone entirely it would still be possible. We don't have to stop entirely but if a bunch of sites suddenly find their traffic is way down they'd start to put pressure on about getting rid of ID checks and we might finally see some movement
Oh, I know. No preaching required. I'm from pre-internet days. That's why I agree with you. Being this dependent on the internet is not good for me or anyone else.
There's no shortage of other ways to get it for an enterprising person, maybe a few extra clicks once you know where to go. That's likely one of the goals though, whitewashing the internet. It's such a massive business though, but maybe very fractured and independent.
People just go to the porn sites that aren't hosted in a jurisdiction that requires ID verification and the ID verifying platforms lose traffic or people use VPNs.
I have young kids, and marketplace has saved me thousands of dollars. Kids need a lot of different stuff at different ages and it's nice to be able to flip the stuff you dont need anymore and get the stuff they do need second hand.
Also messenger, what's app. My apartment building has a what's app group thats invaluable. I talk to customers on messenger.
I'm in this weird middle ground where I hate FB with a passion and it depresses me every time I log in, but I need to create a personal brand for my business (and to get laid, who am I kidding) and honestly I'm thinking about getting one of my friends to run it for me, which seems weird but
Don't know where you are, but Kijiji is absolutely thriving in Ontario. My old man has about 40-50 items up at any given time, and has no problems finding buyers to rotate through his stock, and he is nowhere near a major population centre. I just looked at ads for a city centre and there is a lot available. It is definitely possible to work outside of facebook.
Then you dont ever get to complain. You have other options, but its too hard for you, so youd rather just contribute to pissing away freedoms and privacy. Its because of people like you, who wont put up with even a little discomfort, that we are where we are. They keep pushing, and people like just keep on saying "OK".
If we are ever to stop this increasingly vile push to have us be endlessly profiled, its unfortunately going to have to be people like you that finally grow a fucking back bone. So yeah, we're fucked...
Get offline and go out. I can't tell you what your options are in your area. I could give you a whole list of the options in my area, but only you know where everything is in your environment.
There's salvation army and Savers, and that's about it. Usually they don't have great stuff. Unfortunately, Facebook marketplace is where people in this area go to sell shit.
Its got nothing to do with some frivolous ideology, and everything to do with not letting someone else manipulate me through convenience. People like you always have excuses, but the reality is that youre just lazy. You want your hand held by some tech daddy, you need your hand held by some tech daddy. Because other wise you might have to think for yourself. And that, well, thats just too much effort. No, better to bend over, spread cheeks, and present your arse to the gods of convenience. Well, that and all your data...
Eh, youre the only one doing the name calling and character assassination, cunty chops... Im just calling it like I see it, and youre feeling personally attacked...
It is totally avoidable, you will find new ways to handle your business. You have to stop using their service, they are a cancer on our society and they are actively engaging in propaganda for genocide amongst many other shitty things.
The sooner you pull the trigger the better off you will be. It is past time to move on.
Well, sure ok it's "avoidable" in the sense that I'm not forced to engage with facebook or any other company or platform.
However, the imposition on my daily functioning and ability to interact with my peers would be severely disaffected.
If there's a group of a dozen people that I know in person who are interacting on whats app, then if I want to interact with them I need to use whats app.
Edit: The article references Bluesky fleeing Mississippi due to risk of fines. Do admins running fediverse instances run similar risks?
Bluesky was the first platform to make the announcement. In a public blogpost, Bluesky condemned H.B. 1126’s broad scope, barriers to innovation, and privacy implications, explaining that the law forces platforms to “make every Mississippi Bluesky user hand over sensitive personal information and undergo age checks to access the site—or risk massive fines.” As Bluesky noted, “This dynamic entrenches existing big tech platforms while stifling the innovation and competition that benefits users.” Instead, Bluesky made the decision to cut off Mississippians entirely until the courts consider whether to overturn the law.
A new Mississippi law requires us to block full access to Bluesky unless all users complete age checks. We have concerns about this law’s implementation.
Eugen issued a statement that Mastodon is physically incapable of implementing age verification and that thedecentralized nature of the fediverse means there is no central authority that can block regions which define these laws.
IANAL, but I imagine under the laws, they would go after individual instance owners to mandate verification. The laws have no provision for third party software, so it would fall to the courts, but most instances don’t have the funds to fight it.
Decentralized social network Mastodon says it cannot comply with age verification laws, like in Mississippi and elsewhere, and says it's up to individual server owners to decide.
there need to be dedicated 3rd party age verification services separate from the site. the people with my identity info don’t need to see what i’m doing on the site, and the site doesn’t need to know my identity any more than a general age group.
No, as soon as you ask the government to send a site a token verifying you, you’ve given up your privacy to the government.
Also, how are smaller sites going to pay for this service? This is the tech bros using the religious nuts to pull the ladder up behind them. Locking in the monopoly. The only answer is the freedom we’ve had for the last 35 years.
Well, as much as I hate it, there's no privacy when it comes to your government, and this is the case even since the internet was a thing.
Yes, we can keep some stuff obscured from the government, but the fact is that they know everything about us since we are born (probably even before). We need driver's license, passport, bank accounts, registering homes, cars, even dogs, putting kids in the school system, health services, the list seems infinite.
But that does not mean we have to stop pushing back, because if we do, we're utterly fucked.
My government doesn't know everything about me. Look at the news and how long it takes for basic information about a high profile criminal to come out. It takes a lot of investigative effort to put all that info together, even if it's all largely from various government agencies.
Some stuff is easy to track (e.g. registrations), but a lot isn't. That means there's absolutely precedent for privacy from the government on things that don't matter to it. Why should the welfare department need information about my driving history or whether I have a passport? It doesn't, so it shouldn't have access.
I agree, it shouldn't, but I but they do. Don't deceive yourself like that. As I said, some stuff you can (still) keep under wraps, that's how criminals do it, but connecting the dots they almost invariably get caught, sooner or later.
Right, like Al Capone got caught for tax evasion instead of all the murders and whatnot. If they're digging, they'll find it, and they can get almost anything with a warrant.
My point is that governments are generally pretty dysfunctional with information sharing, so even if they have a piece of information, it's unlikely the appropriate agency has it. They're getting more and more information the more crap like age verification gets passed, but that doesn't change the dysfunction between agencies.
I can never disagree with this premise. Government institutions are dysfunctional and broken as hell, regardless of the country we're referring to. And that alone supports your point, so I have to say, you are right, not one single institution has all our info. The sum of all of them may, however, have it all. Should they choose to organize all our data and have it centralized (say one database for all institutions to feed from) it's just a matter of merging the data and giving all of them access, even if they use different systems.
That's where I'm going with this. We do need to obscure as much as we can, but knowing what we're not able to keep private anymore is pivotal to focus on those things that we can keep under our control.
My point is that it's not hopeless. We can have reasonable privacy today, and we can change the laws to protect the rest. If we just assume we don't have privacy, our governments will continue to take.
Then, I apologize, as it seems that I misrepresented your comments. Yes, we can still safeguard our privacy, and we should. This will need a very good chunk of the population making changes, educating children on the dangers of not having privacy, and how the government works for the population, not the other way around. This will require many to get out of their comfort zone, and stop providing data and/money to the corporations that have most individuals convinced that we can't live without their services, which is completely false. This will be painful, but then again, what revolution isn't?
You can't always simply VPN around it. I applied for a job via one of the popular job sites. Tried to log back in to the job site a week later only to to find my account had been blocked until I provide proof of ID to a US based third party company ...I'm in Europe. Spoiler alert: I did not provide proof of ID & so have no idea whether or not I was a suitable applicant for the job.
Guess i won't be job hunting through that site again. The whole thing is farcical.
This is the display of how we fight this. And I can only imagine the balls it took for you to take that position and move along. You're one of those scarce unsung heroes that stands by his values instead of bending over to avoid inconvenience or even potentially detrimental outcomes.
Some of them. Yes, many others not so much. Are you not realizing the thread you're commenting on here?
That smaller site services and companies who really don't want to collect this data are going to be forced to at an expense that may be too high for their entry point into the market they're trying to work in?
Or even worse websites or services that are hosted for free may have to incur costs they cannot afford for data they don't want to collect.
Unfortunately sometimes it's too late. Any platform can lock your account and keep your data until you unlock it and GDPR and similar do not protect against it. That's what Twitter and LinkedIn started to do - require verification and no way to delete your account if you decline.
Yeah, the power these companies have over our lives is very disturbing. They have positioned themselves as something most academic people really need, at least linkedin has.
I've never used WhatsApp and never will. My friends and family can contact me through a number of other ways, and I'm introverted enough that it won't bother me too much if they don't.
Depends on the nature of the platform. It is not good for small commercial entities that will be required to enact a ID verification system because it will increase the cost of entry to the market.
Increasing the cost of entry will benefit large corporations that will easily absorb the cost. Platforms that don't require it will likely be unaffected.
It is not good for small commercial entities that will be required to enact a ID verification system because it will increase the cost of entry to the market.
As someone who works in this space, I doubt it’s going to be an issue for smaller entities. We already have SSO for basic login identity from a variety of providers (Microsoft, Facebook, Google, Apple) — smaller sites already love to use these as it provides easy access to existing users, and saves a ton of coding for having to handle login information, password management, etc.
These same entities can handle the age verification. Now I can see arguments as to why centralizing logins and age verification like this could be a problem for users, but if I decided to start my own social media app tomorrow I’d likely rely on the big platforms to handle all of this (as we already see everywhere — heck, app for ordering pizza support Facebook, Google, and Apple logins), and save myself the cost and hassle of implementing this myself (never mind the potential embarrassment and liability should someone hack my site). Then it’s on those platforms to worry about age verification.
All of these services are currently free, and save you from a ton of coding around user accounts and authentication, so using them is usually cheaper then having to DIY it.
I could see it being an issue for more privacy-oriented sites. I imagine some Lemmy and Mastodon users might be less inclined to have to login to Apple, Google or Microsoft to be able to interact with others even if the vast majority of users are fine with it. Would be nice for somebody to come up with an open-source service that handles some more basic age verification so other services can just self-host it instead of each platform implementing their own logins. By basic age verification I mean things like matching user behaviour to users with a known age and maybe some face scanning. Nowhere near perfect and it’s a constant cat and mouse game, but maybe enough to be compliant with the law.
If age verification wasn’t being made mandatory in Australia for social media sites I think it could be a great idea for some services especially if the verification is done by the government with the same level as photo ID. Think dating apps, finance and marketplace sites where having a higher level of confidence that the person you are talking to is who they say they really matters, especially if law enforcement need to be involved down the line. Even if you the user can’t verify the identity of the other person, law enforcement could, and the site might be able to block alt accounts. The credential theft problem still exists of course so it’s no silver bullet, but it’s a lot better than what we have now.
And that’s just fine. Considering how many people do login with those services, I doubt any that use the SSO services will particularly miss you and the small subset of users who don’t want to let a third-party service confirm your login.
That’s not meant as snark — every app and website out there has some subset of users who will decry “I won’t use that because it does X”. And that’s fine. It’s a personal decision. But it likely won’t significantly affect development decisions, as it’s going to happen with some group for some reason anyway.
And that’s always worked out in the past, hasn’t it?
Imagine putting your entire business in a position where one of Google’s half-assed AIs could decide tomorrow at zero notice to cut you off from your entire user base.
This is why most apps that do use such services use more than one. Lots of modern sites have buttons for “Login with Google”, “Login with Facebook”, “Login with Apple”. None of them want to lose access to the user data and analytics they get from these services — so I doubt one is going to jump into cutting you off or requiring payment while the others are still free.
It would take all of these services to (illegally) coordinate to suddenly start charging — and of all of them I don’t see that being in the interest at all for Apple. Apple’s login service uses Touch and Face ID on their devices, and is part of the selling point for those devices (extremely easy logins with no password). They’re not making their money off Single Sign-On (SSO) login services — they make their money off selling devices, and they make the case for selling these devices in large part by selling “simplicity”.
So if you’re worried today about a login service yanking the rug out from under you, you just implement many/all of them. It’s not significantly more work — all of them are based off OAuth — so long as your website or app can authenticate via OAuth you just need to use the APIs each company provides to implement the authentication, and you’re done.
Nothing them stops you as you get bigger form implementing your own login/authentication service — and if you ever get big enough, you too can offer it as a service for other websites.
Depends on the platform surely, couldn't a lemmy instance just ignore the UK? Not block, ignore.
I am sure I saw that smaller platforms are seeing a surge in popularity because they are not doing it while pornhub saw a large drop. How many switched to a VPN and how many use another site?
Even safer might be that image that's been circulating. It states that if you're in the UK, the hosting site is required to verify your age, but they're not required to verify your location. Now, please click on of these buttons indicating whether or not you're in the UK to determine whether age verification must be performed.
(Presumably "I am in the UK" leads to an innocuous website)
It gives more info as to the consequences of clicking that button. If they just ask if you're in the UK, people could reasonably assume they're going to serve UK-relevant content. If they say it's for ave verification purposes directly, people will know they can click the other button to avoid the spyware.
I don't think I agree, as I think almost any individual clicking those buttons could extrapolate that there was some subterfuge involved, but I do appreciate your take.
Did you see the original meme to which I'm referring?
I'm also not a Brit, but it was popular here on lemmy for a day or two. Unfortunately, my very brief image searches aren't returning it, but I'll try to find it for you.
i find it interesting that some of the most debased, vile, disgusting perverts to ever live are passing laws to force regular, everyday people to dox themselves just so they can see a tig ol gilf bitty.
Amazes me how the UK Labour Party and Starmer managed to absolutely squander their one opportunity after gaining power for the first time in many years.
What if devices would have a private chip to have the ID, so the website would just request if user is underage or not. Would this be private? Instead of sending the whole id to the online platform?
Some kind of anonymous token that says "I'm adult" and smart card on credit cards are kind of that, but they have a unique identifier that identifies you. They're not anonymous which is the only acceptable kind of adult verification. It makes more sense to cordon off all parts of the internet with identity/age verification and consider them destroyed. I'd like to have an IP banlist of all participants in his harebrained scheme, just rip off the bandair immediately rather than have them shit the bed down the line.
Maybe a government run service that reads your unique identifier and provides a simple adult:yes/no to the website. That takes the burden off the sites and keeps personal identification info in a publicly owned system.
Yeah I could see something like that. It would be similar to log in with Google or Apple. They would be a trusted 3rd party that has the responsibility of validating age and they just pass on a pass or fail to the site.
Polling has concluded for the presidential race in Guyana. The contest is broadly between three main political parties vying for the leadership of the oil-rich nation.
I have to say I don't get this. They keep trying again and again but to what end. There's no way this will change anything. The navy will intercept them, maybe kill some people in the process, dump the food and sent them back home. It all feels like a huge waste of manpower, resources and time.
But by this point I'm wondering if Greta feels like she's achieving much with the make noise strategy. I feel like that could work in a world that cares which ours increasingly is not that. She could attain more by going into politics for example. But dying in the sea on her way to a brick wall would be a huge loss that I can't follow the logic of.
Right but my point is that they already did this and nothing changed. Everyone who cares to know knows already and everyone else doesn't care. Actions speak louder than words and the world has already spoken even if any decent person is against it, this won't change anything anymore.
just by saying they're going, they've made israel state publicly that they will be treated like terrorists when caught. if israel does treat non-violent nationals of "allied" countries like that, they've officially burned quite a few bridges.
Again this is my opinion, everyone who cares about it already knows beyond a shadow of a doubt what this is, everyone else will continue to attempt confusion and deny it until theres no living resident in Gaza. I disagree that this particular action would change anything in terms of anyone's perception on the lies.
I already did in broad terms. I would target politics, start a party or movement, grab power, votes and influence, take the helm and actually enact policy and put pressure where it hurts. Even this flotilla would make a lot more sense if it would be a marketing stunt to gain something else, but it really does seem to be limited to exposure which is not enough, everyone already knows the tragedy that is happening and yet those who can actually decide have said time and time again we can all get fucked.
There are parties and ministers and multiple institutions at european union level that drive conversations and can put a lot more pressure on the rest of the world than any single private individual.
What Greta is doing is a political act, it raises global awareness, which puts pressure on politicians to act or risk losing their offices to folks who will.
I guess the root issue with this is that they don't act and if they lose their office to someone else those people also don't act, at least not in the interest of the people. So we would need someone who actually acts instead of just talks and promises and I feel like Greta would be one of those people.
Don't get me wrong I would love to see her run for office. I think it would need to be something with authority though to do as much good as she is now.
Like Prime Minister or whatever they call the top position in her country.
Even if she didn't win, she could move the needle a lot.
But that's just one country, what she's doing now moves the hearts and minds of folks globally.
I already did in broad terms. I would target politics, start a party or movement, grab power, votes and influence, take the helm and actually enact policy and put pressure where it hurts.
These activists must be really stupid to put their life at risk when they can simply win elections, grab power and change policies...
Yeah, if the bully keeps beating your friends up, and they are way stronger... Why try to stop them?
Politics is a great idea. Maybe if she was a Minister in her home country of Sweden she could draft a formal letter of disapproval! That works really well for the US Democrats.
It's best to not make any figurative or literal waves. Best to stay in one's lane.
As I said in another comment there is politics at EU level and my argument is not against making waves, it's about taking the conservation to where it hurts more for the politicians that don't act. Making waves is very much a viable option since it's been a recent staple of some politicians.
I don't understand why they are publicizing this. Wouldn't it be easier to 'slip by' under cover of night or whatever smuggler-esque strategies there are?
So you agree that that is the publicity stunt part, which the activists can then use to shine yet another light on the evil that is the Israeli government.
Let me ask you this, what are you doing to make the world better or shine a light on things?
So you agree that that is the publicity stunt part, which the activists can then use to shine yet another light on the evil that is the Israeli government.
Yes, that is very often the point of activism.
Like not long ago we had a string of climate activists basically vandalizing random art and monuments. People called it great activism (especially here on lemmy), because it got attention. Even though these actions obviously couldn't have any direct impact on the core problem that was protested.
So I think this flotilla is already much better activism. At least they are trying to do something meaningful, even if the attention is the main objective. I feel like you somehow think that I disapprove of this action. That's not the case.
Let me ask you this, what are you doing to make the world better or shine a light on things?
For decades, it was hoped that this outcome would be achieved as part of a peace process built around a negotiated settlement between the Israeli government and the Palestinian Authority.
This is a good thing, don't get me wrong, but reading this is exhausting. Framing it as Israel "failing to prevent a humanitarian disaster" rather than actively committing genocide is such weasely bullshit.
You're not wrong, but considering how full throated Trudeau was in his support for Israel, and all of the Islamophobic+anti-Semetic rhetoric in Toronto and Montreal while those cities are hosting meetings for land developers wanting to invest in the Gaza strip, I will take what I can get.
It seems like a gamble that both sides are doing - 'blockade runners' going to initiate an internationally effective response after they are illegally kidnapped, and that Israel is betting that no one can find the balls to do anything.
That’s not true necessarily. Of course they are highlighting the cruelty of the blockade, but I’m sure they’d be very happy to get in and see what’s happening—as well as distribute some food
yet they send a flotilla of food they will be eating from into a blockade that will just take the food and send it on anyways. this is twitter theatre.
What in the world kind of thinking is this? Yeah, there’s a war going on and Russia is targeting civilian centers and are clearly the invading aggressor, but that is not on the same level as the full blown genocide happening in Gaza/West Bank. The fact that they could easily get into Ukraine and deliver food…means they don’t have to. What.
There is an actual famine happening in Gaza. Starvation is being used as a weapon of war and attrition against the entire civilian population. There are only upsides to them trying this: either aid gets through and some people survive a little longer, or it doesn’t, and it proves to the entire world—that happens to be sitting on their hands over the genocide—that this is real and needs way more attention and pressure. What don’t you understand about that?
It’s attempting to break an illegal and genocidal blockade of necessary survival items. The fact that the blockade exists means they should respect it?
Look what they’ve already done: started thousands of conversations about it. It’s already mountains more than you or I have ever done to help the people of Gaza. Your opinion is ridiculous. But it also shows how necessary these actions are.
Four Italian politicians are on one of the ships this time. The secretary of the main Italian opposition asked the government to take a stand about their safety. Dock workers in Genoa said that if something happens to the ships they will bring down logistics and shipping throughout Europe.
That being said, genocide through purposeful mass starvation is quite possibly the most heinous crime that exists. God bless anyone does anything at all to fight against it
Ah shit here we go again. What's ironic is that the Zionazis could get an easy PR win by letting them in to distribute aid but that would interfere with their long term extermination goals.
An easy PR win by letting them enter a war zone? You can only lose by doing that. For an easy PR win, they could just let the trucks enter Gaza.
I give it a 30% chance that Israel military kills them and blames Hamas, a 60% chance that Hamas kills them and blames it on Israel... And a 10% chance of surviving...
I give it a 30% chance that Israel military kills them and blames Hamas, a 60% chance that Hamas kills them and blames it on Israel… And a 10% chance of surviving…
They've been doing this May and I don't think anyone has died/gone "missing" in the Flotillas yet. Israel doesn't want the PR win, they usually use the opportunity of the news media's attention being turned to the Flotillas to launch some extra drone strikes in Gaza. Murdering Palestinians is much more important to them.
Letting opposing, famous people (who would of course also take and share pictures from the war reality) enter the war zone without anyone getting hurt or killed by anyone else (with Israel military, Hamas and Islamic Dschihad involved) is probably the most complicated PR win ever...
Apart from that, it of course lets the question come up "Why is Greta allowed to enter, but not actual help organizations?". And it seems that they don't want such a precedent, because otherwise, they could easily allow the trucks to pass.
Oh no, I 100% agree with everything you've said here.
My point was 1) the flotillas have been happening for a few months now and has gotten more people sympathetic to the situation (Greta for example live-streamed being boarded and captured by the IDF in...June I think?) and 2) The IDF don't WANT the easy PR win. They want Gaza empty.
I actually wonder why they haven't blocked telecom coming in and out. Everyone would still kinda know they're doing a genocide, but it would be harder to visually cover, and they might be able to hide details.
Oh, it matters. You think most people are going to look on Google Maps themselves?
Quick, gut-punching visuals and stupid soundbites are the name of the game in public opinion. Even if news agencies were to show this map, it's way more abstract and remote. The impact wouldn't be the same as a starving, swollen baby.
Calling me islamophobic because I'm not a fan of Hamas or "Islamic Dschihad" is as intelligent as calling someone antisemitic because they criticize the Israel government...
Oh no you misunderstand. Despite the IDF having an extremely larger kill count, not to mention a proclivity to kill aid workers and even their own citizens through the hannibal directive, you still stated Hamas was more likely to kill Greta. Despite the fact Hamas does not have a history of killing aid workers or Pro-Palestinian activists (that would be counter intuitive as the elected party of Gaza). The only reason you would rate them higher is because you, like most in the West have been propagandized to demonize Muslims, especially ones who take up arms to defend from invaders. So yeah, you're islamophobic and should kindly fuck off.
The only reason you would rate them higher is because you, like most in the West have been propagandized to demonize Muslims
Wow... I'm talking about Hamas terrorists and do not even mention a religion, but your brain seems to really really really want to connect that to regular Muslims... Why???? Can we please stop acting like Hamas/Islamic Dschihad and average Muslims are the same???? Please??? Doing that seems to actually be islamophobic.....
especially ones who take up arms to defend from invaders
If we are talking about Hamas, we are talking about those how also kind of caused the invasion....... And yes, I know, the conflict did not start 2 years ago. It kind of started with the Balfour Declaration.
"They caused the invasion but also this started with the Balfour Declaration" ok so you're just full of shit. You know damn well that Israel has been the aggressor since the beginning and you still blame Hamas for this genocide. That "terrorist organization" along with the other Axis of Resistance "terrorists" are the only ones actually fighting the IOF. But sure, pin the blame on Muslims defending their country instead of the terrorist state of Israel that has been doing ethnic cleansing since its very founding.
You're not wrong. As soon as they let in one group of foreign aid workers, others follow. And then you run the risk of people ending the engineered famine.
Sort of defeats the point of doing a genocide if outsiders can just feed the people you're trying to starve to death.
a 60% chance that Hamas kills them
I swear to God, the average Zionist's understanding of a Palestinian is somewhere between Ayatollah Khomemi and The Terminator.
They've got no food, but they still have anti-ship missiles?
I think, the average view on a starving Palestinian and a proud member of Hamas or Islamic Dschihad differs. And above, I talked about "Hamas", not about random people suffering in Gaza.
There is no difference between the two in the eyes of the Lavender AI.
If you're baited into opposing "Hamas", it is only a matter of time before you're defending an airstrike on a hospital or the IDF gang rape of a general surgeon.
Palestinians haven't been allowed normal elections since a plurality of the party won office. They've been under IDF martial law, with no working civilian government or democratic process, precisely because the Israelis didn't want to let a Hamas-aligned civilian leadership hold any kind of power.
Or do you want to question whether Hamas still holds the power in Gaza?
Who is the Hamas PM? Name any Hamas minister. Name a Hamas MP, even. A Hamas Mayor? Police chief? Dogcatcher?
Name any single living Hamas politician.
Can you? How can a party hold power if all of its leadership have been executed?
I can name you only 2 people from the Israel government. Does that mean that there are only 2? No.........
Why are the names relevant? When there is a new hostage deal, there will be armed Hamas people with face masks forcing the hostages on a stage... Ask those Hamas guys what their names are... To be honest: I don't care about their names at all. Them doing what they are doing clearly shows who's in power.
We all know that Hamas did not want any fair elections. I mean... Read this...
After Hamas's June 2007 takeover, it ousted Fatah-linked officials from positions of power and authority (such as government positions, security services, universities, newspapers, etc.) and strove to enforce law by progressively removing guns from the hands of peripheral militias, clans, and criminal groups, and gaining control of supply tunnels. According to Amnesty International, under Hamas rule, newspapers were closed down and journalists were harassed.[191] Fatah demonstrations were forbidden or suppressed, as in the case of a large demonstration on the anniversary of Yasser Arafat's death, which resulted in the deaths of seven people, after protesters hurled stones at Hamas security forces.[192]
With that logic, we can not talk about Mexico, Sweden, Finland and Kazakhstan. I don't know anyone from their governments and I don't care about their names at all... "Genocidal mentality", I guess...
Good that you know all of their names!!!111 A win for humanity!!!111
Watch out everyone. Your account will be deactivated if you call Israeli’s war criminals. The cousins have control of this website. Don’t talk ill of the Israeli’s or your account will be deleted for “Hate Speech”.
Haaa...there's MANY boats mate. Not sure how you missed that. Dozens. What would you call a group of boats? I'm pretty sure you wouldn't call it a boat of boats.
1) Pawn are very important piece in chess, most of the time you lose one you lose the game. 2) Pawn becomes any other piece when it reach its destination including a Queen. 3) that is a lame comment that makes no sense.
Pawns are the first pieces to be sacrificed in a game of chess. How deep did you go to pull out this comment?
Maybe the first to loose a pawn in game are statisticaly more prone to loosing. But that's will be Tue reason of being the worse players not that the piece in itself is so important.
People say it's a publicity stunt. Well so what. Greta knows if she goes, cameras and reporters will follow. It's the same thing Lady Diana did when traveling to 3rd world nations....she knew that she alone wouldn't make a difference, but the cameras and reporters that follow her would.
Greta is doing what most of us only discuss....helping. and if she helps by keeping Isreal's hypocrisy in the news, then she wins.
They one who says that are troll because it is not a Publicity stunt when you are going to the door steps of a fascist military organization that have no regards of any human life "including their own" and will not hesitate shooting you down or imprisoned you for unknown time.
Is this a shitpost? She’s not even from the USA why would she be involved with campaigning for the democrats and either way if you think a democrat president would stop helping Israel then you must have missed all the previous presidents who supported Iseral.
I don't get the criticism. They either get the food through or the press following her is going to film the Israeli navy blocking the food from entering the shore.
There has never been any hope that they'd get the food through. This is all about showing people that Israel are willing to arrest and deport them.
My main critisism is that it isn't going to change anything because:
No country is going to allow people who aren't refugees to illegally enter their territory like this. Israel arresting these people and deporting them isn't new. So Israel doing something every other country would do is a non-story.
This isn't going to convince anyone who has agreed with Israel's action up to this point because, they already tried it before, and denying aid to palestinians is not their worst crime. Anyone who could be swayed by this action, was swayed more than a year ago, when it was crystal clear Israel was purposely murdering civillians.
So to me, this comes off as an attempt to get media attention, with a happening that does nothing to help the people they really want to help, changing no ones mind, and all without actually being anything but a slight inconvenience to Israel, making their coastguards take a slight detour to arrest a few people.
Sure, it's more than I've done, and more than I care to do, and I'm sure a lot of people are going to be very angry, because I don't think this will matter in the slightest. I'm sympathetic to their course, but this just reeks too much of a bunch of privilaged kids, wanting to make a name for themselves, so they load a boat up with food, alcohol and weed, have a bunch of fun on the way, get sent home when they reach their destination, and hope they get to talk to the media.
The flotilla is not sailing to Israeli territory. They are sailing to Gaza, which is under an illegal military occupation.
Not even the Israeli government claims Gaza as Israeli territory (yet). The government is trying to ethnically cleanse the Gaza strip so they can flood it with settlements, establishing facts on the ground for an eventual annexation.
That’s why the flotilla is trying to bring food and medical aid to Gaza.
Specialized Ukrainian units using unmanned ground vehicles are emerging across all brigades. These machines already carry out most supply runs and evacuations on the front lines.
Lawmakers in the country's unelected parliament have approved fines and prison sentences for persons convicted. Homosexuality is illegal in around 30 African countries, but not until now in Burkina Faso, whose military seized power three years ago.
Investigations reveal how American far-right activists are contributing to rising anti-LGBTQ+ sentiment in Africa. With funding and support from Uganda to Nigeria, they're influencing laws and public opinion.
Every of these organizations should be banned from Europe, with their leaders and members monitored afterwards like potential terrorists, or European democracies will fall in favor of Seven Mountain Dominion flavored christian fascism.
I have a feeling that the great anti-islam and "cultural christianity" in the atheist movement was a psyop.
Homophobia isn't universal, but it's not an uncommon cultural feature either.
Racism, specifically centering around skin colour and related features, is actually pretty recent and pretty Western. In ancient times they hated over different things. Religion was obviously big in the medieval period, food preferences come up surprisingly often if you go all the way back to clay tablet times.
Raceism, specifically centering around skin colour and related features, is actually pretty recent and pretty Western.
If I may take a guess, it's also because up until historically recently, larger groups of ethnicities didn't know that other such groups existed. To be racist, you need to be aware of people you'd clarify as another race
Nah, people did move around a bit. Herodotus discusses the "Aetheops" (subsaharan Africans) in his Histories, for example. Rome straight up had emperors who we wouldn't consider white.
The real catalyst seems to have been the situation in the New World, where coincidentally black slaves were suddenly cheap and abundant, and the colonisers where much lighter than the natives. It was a convenient worldview, basically.
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