Cataluña podría reutilizar hasta 10 millones de botellas de vino según un proyecto pionero
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Campari supera previsiones y eleva su beneficio operativo a 165,6 millones pese a aranceles en Estados Unidos
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Un primo giorno ‘tutto regolare‘. Qualche coda, ma accettabile. C’è il sold out dei paganti sabato
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El enoturismo aporta el 25% de los ingresos en 1.310 bodegas de 47 países según un informe global
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El consumo de latas de bebidas cae un 5% en América mientras el precio del aluminio sube un 54%
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Trump e Xi raggiungono un accordo sulle terre rare dopo l'incontro in Corea del Sud
Il presidente Donald Trump ha annunciato di aver concluso un accordo con il presidente cinese Xi Jinping sulle terre rare, dopo il loro incontro di giovedì 30 ottobre a Busan, in Corea del Sud. Si tratta del primo faccia a faccia tra i due leader da sei anni, avvenuto a margine del vertice della cooperazione economica Asia-Pacifico.
Trump ha parlato con i giornalisti a bordo dell'Air Force One, dopo un colloquio di un'ora e quaranta minuti con Xi. Il presidente americano ha spiegato che la Cina ha accettato di sospendere per un anno le restrizioni all'esportazione delle terre rare, materiali indispensabili per l'industria tecnologica e della difesa. L'accordo sarà rinegoziatile annualmente. "La questione delle terre rare è stata risolta, e questo vale per il mondo intero", ha affermato Trump, aggiungendo che non ci saranno più ostacoli su questi minerali.
In cambio, gli Stati Uniti ridurranno i dazi doganali sulla Cina dal 20% al 10%, portando il livello complessivo dei dazi dal 57% al 47%. Trump ha anche annunciato che si recherà in Cina ad aprile e che Xi visiterà gli Stati Uniti successivamente, a Washington o in Florida.
L'incontro arriva dopo settimane turbolente nei rapporti tra le due maggiori economie mondiali. Il 9 ottobre Pechino aveva deciso di limitare le esportazioni di terre rare, una mossa che aveva fatto infuriare Trump, che aveva minacciato dazi punitivi fino al 100%. La Cina esercita un quasi monopolio su questi metalli, essenziali per smartphone, automobili elettriche e armamenti.
Prima dell'incontro, Trump aveva lasciato intendere una possibile riduzione dei dazi americani imposti alla Cina a causa del traffico di fentanyl. Il presidente ha dichiarato che Xi si impegnerà a contrastare con forza il flusso dei precursori chimici utilizzati per produrre il fentanyl, l'oppioide che causa il maggior numero di morti per overdose negli Stati Uniti.
Trump ha anche annunciato che la Cina riprenderà gli acquisti di soia americana, un tema politicamente sensibile per gli agricoltori del Midwest che sostengono il presidente. Pechino aveva completamente sospeso le commesse di soia americana, rivolgendosi invece a Brasile e Argentina. Il segretario al Tesoro Scott Bessent aveva anticipato nei giorni scorsi la ripresa di acquisti sostanziali.
Taiwan non è stato discusso durante l'incontro, ha precisato Trump. L'isola democratica, rivendicata da Pechino come proprio territorio, rimane uno dei punti di maggiore frizione tra Washington e la Cina. Trump ha però affermato che Stati Uniti e Cina lavoreranno insieme sulla guerra in Ucraina per fermare le vittime.
Il presidente americano ha definito l'incontro "straordinario" e lo ha valutato "12 su una scala di 10". Ha elogiato Xi come "un leader eccezionale di un paese molto potente". I due leader si conoscono bene per essersi incontrati cinque volte durante il primo mandato di Trump, ma l'ultimo faccia a faccia risaliva al 2019.
Xi aveva dichiarato all'inizio dei colloqui che era "un grande piacere" rivedere Trump, sottolineando che Cina e Stati Uniti possono "assumersi congiuntamente le responsabilità di grandi potenze e lavorare insieme". Il leader cinese ha riconosciuto che i due paesi non sono sempre d'accordo e che è normale che le due principali economie mondiali abbiano attriti, ma ha invitato entrambi a mantenere la rotta giusta.
L'accordo commerciale in gestazione non risolverà i contenziosi di fondo tra le due superpotenze, che sono economici ma anche strategici. Trump vede con sospetto le manovre diplomatiche di Xi per rafforzare i legami con i grandi paesi emergenti e si è più volte irritato dei rapporti tra Cina e Russia.
L'incontro conclude, con toni più sobri, il viaggio asiatico in cui Trump è stato accolto con tutti gli onori in Malesia, Giappone e Corea del Sud, ricevendo regali sontuosi e promesse di investimenti giganteschi negli Stati Uniti. Solo poche ore prima dell'incontro con Xi, Trump aveva ordinato al Pentagono di riprendere immediatamente i test sulle armi nucleari, una mossa vista come un tentativo di mostrare forza prima dei negoziati.
Separazione delle carriere dei magistrati e un secondo Csm: cosa prevede la riforma della giustizia
https://www.repubblica.it/politica/2025/10/30/news/riforma_giustizia_separazione_carriere_magistrati_csm_cosa_prevede-424947248/?utm_source=flipboard&utm_medium=activitypub
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Separazione delle carriere dei magistrati e un secondo Csm: cosa prevede la riforma della giustizia
Oggi la quarta e ultima lettura al Senato prima del referendum confermativola Repubblica
Überraschende Pläne in Den Haag: Internationaler Strafgerichtshof könnte Microsoft durch deutsche Software ersetzen
Deutschland ist nicht gerade als Heimat großer Softwareentwicklungen bekannt. Nun heißt es, dass der Internationale Strafgerichtshof Anwendungen des Tech-Riesen Microsoft durch eine Software aus Deutschland ersetzen will.n-tv NACHRICHTEN
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in aristides dallas' residence, terraces open up like petals
on the island of schinousa, greece, aristides dallas architects crafts maison cheval as a residence inseparable from the ground it inhabits.thomai tsimpou I designboom (Designboom)
David Rubenstein Treehouse - Harvard University / Studio Gang
Completed in 2025 in Boston, United States. Images by Jason O Rear. Studio Gang, the international architecture and urban design firm led by Jeanne Gang, announced the completion of the David Rubenstein Treehouse at...Pilar Caballero (ArchDaily)
Abbeveratoio per roditori - Questo è un post automatico da FediMercatino.it
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Vendo perché duplicato, mai utilizzato.
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Eine Kaltfront hat sich in den letzten Stunden den Weg durchs Land gebahnt und liegt nun im Osten. Man erkennt die Rückseite gut an der auflockernden Bewölkung und dem Übergang in Schauern.
Noch ist es recht windig, im Umfeld der Front auch stürmisch, das gibt sich aber im Tagesverlauf.
Alle Warnungen gibt es jederzeit im Web (dwd.de/DE/wetter/warnungen_gem…) und in der WarnWetter App.
Wir wünschen euch einen schönen Donnerstag.
"Nur Ja heißt Ja": Frankreich verschärft Sexualstrafrecht: "Demnach gelten "Schweigen oder das Fehlen einer Reaktion" nicht als Zustimmung zu einem sexuellen Akt. Es braucht vielmehr ein ausdrückliches Ja. Die Zustimmung sei unter anderem frei, konkret und widerrufbar."
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Frankreich: Sex ohne Zustimmung gilt künftig als Vergewaltigung
In Frankreich gilt künftig: "Nur Ja heißt Ja." Damit nimmt das Land die explizite Zustimmung zu sexuellen Handlungen in sein Strafrecht auf. Dafür stimmte der Senat am Abend.ZDFheute
Russia’s Lukoil Agrees to Sell International Unit to Gunvor
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-10-30/russia-s-lukoil-agrees-to-sell-international-unit-to-gunvor?utm_source=flipboard&utm_medium=activitypub
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I dieci migliori hotel d’Italia secondo Best Luxury Hotel Awards
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I dieci migliori hotel d’Italia secondo Best Luxury Hotel Awards
Il riconoscimento annuale è ideato da Teamwork Hospitality con il contributo di Elle Decor e EHMA - European Hotel Managers Association con il patrocinio di Altagamma e di Confindustria AlberghiIl Sole 24 Ore (Il Sole 24 ORE)
Zum #Weltmännertag am 3. November sollen sich Männer mit ihrer Gesundheit auseinandersetzen. Denn es gibt große Unterschiede zwischen den Geschlechtern: Die Sterberate von Männern war in allen Altersgruppen höher als die der Frauen. Frauen haben eine um knapp fünf Jahre höhere Lebenserwartung. Unter den Haupttodesursachen bei Männern waren 2024 Herzkrankheiten, Krebs, Verletzungen und Vergiftungen.
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Weltmännertag: Sterblichkeit von Männern in allen Altersgruppen höher als von Frauen
Ziel des Weltmännertags am 3. November ist, dass sich Männer intensiv mit ihrer Gesundheit auseinandersetzen: Unterschiede zwischen Männern und Frauen zeigen sich unter anderem bei der Sterblichkeit und der durchschnittlichen Lebenserwartung, bei spe…Statistisches Bundesamt
「The Outer Worlds 2」,本日リリース。独裁政権が支配するコロニー全域を舞台に,地球議会のエージェントが調査に挑む - 4Gamer.net - YAYAFA
「The Outer Worlds 2」,本日リリース。独裁政権が支配するコロニー全域を舞台に,地球議会のエージェントが調査に挑む 4Gamer.net「The Outer Worlds 2」本日発売! キャラをカスタマイズして未知の世界を冒険しよう GAMEYAYAFA
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Jeffrey Sachs e il trionfo della propaganda come guerra alla realtà - Valigia Blu
Lo scontro tra Carlo Calenda e Jeffrey Sachs a Piazzapulita rivela aspetti critici che vanno molto al di là della classica "rissa televisiva".Matteo Pascoletti (Valigia Blu)
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Lokaljournalist*in ist der beste Job der Welt. Ernsthaft. Aber es gibt Wochen, die wirklich, wirklich beschissen sind – und so eine habe ich kürzlich erlebt.
Bereit?
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Lorch: Diente eine Hausarztpraxis im Ostalbkreis als Querdenker-Treffpunkt?
Lorch: Diente eine Hausarztpraxis im Ostalbkreis als Querdenker-Treffpunkt? - Nachrichten aus dem Ostalbkreis - Zeitungsverlag WaiblingenAlexander Roth (Zeitungsverlag Waiblingen)
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Neue Germanische Medizin
Aktualisierte Stellungnahme der Arbeitsgemeinschaft Prävention und Integrative Onkologie (PRIO) der DKG.Angelina Gromes (www.krebsgesellschaft.de)
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Sie quälen Kinder, treiben sie in den Tod: Das sadistische Online-Netzwerk 764
Sie quälen Kinder, treiben sie in den Tod: Das sadistische Online-Netzwerk 764 - Nachrichten aus dem Rems-Murr-Kreis - Zeitungsverlag WaiblingenAlexander Roth (Zeitungsverlag Waiblingen)
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Rechte Hetze gegen Journalisten: Freiheit im Fadenkreuz
Seit Jahren wird der Journalist Alexander Roth wegen seiner Berichterstattung von Rechten attackiert. Er macht weiter – trotz Morddrohungen.Jean-Philipp Baeck (taz)
Vielleicht denkt ihr das nächste Mal daran, wenn euch ein Artikel aufregt. Ich mache jedenfalls weiter, denn wie ich am Anfang schrieb: Es ist der beste Job der Welt. Trotz allem.
Danke fürs Lesen.
Procura Parigi, 'sono 5 i nuovi fermi per il furto al Louvre' - Europa - Ansa.it
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Procura Parigi, 'sono 5 i nuovi fermi per il furto al Louvre' - Europa - Ansa.it
Sono 5 i nuovi fermi, fra i quali uno dei principali sospetti, nel quadro dell'inchiesta sul furto al Louvre. Lo ha annunciato la procuratrice di Parigi, Laure Beccuau, ai microfoni di Rtl. (ANSA)Agenzia ANSA
Jag är ju ingen kodare.. men
UHR tror att GDPR gäller excelfiler men inte pdf-filer och tycker att jag ska sitta och skriva av pdf-filer för hand. Glöm det säger jag. Det var av den anledningen Gud uppfann Tesseract och Bash. Nu lyckades jag få ihop ett bashscript som läser av alla pdf-er i en mapp och skapar textfiler av dem.
Världens näst enklaste bash-script men ändock ett kul litet framsteg.
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🇮🇪 Chay Bowes, The Irishman in Russia 🇷🇺
Ireland's government backs EU plan to use sanctioned (stolen) Russian assets to fund Ukraine war loan, the Irish Times reports on 23 October 2025: "Ireland will support a European Union plan to use seized Russian state cash to finance a €140 billion…Telegram
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Musk’s Starlink Ties Up With UK’s VMO2 for Mobile ‘Not Spots’
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Ett av flera problem med de rika och vad vi kan göra åt det
Oxfam har kommit ut med en ny rapport där de tillsammans med Stockholm Environment Institute (SEI) går igenom nya data om svenskars konsumtionsbaserade utsläpp. Rapporten betonar hur brådskande det…PEPPRAT RÖDGRÖNT
War mal auf ner Podiumdiskussion im Google-Gebäude (15min Fußweg von meinem Büro entfernt) und alle anderen waren da so "ja, wir müssen BigTech regulieren, außer natürlich Google, die gehören zu den guten", weil irgendwie dann doch keiner den anwesenden Google-Lobbyist*innen auf den Schlips treten wollte. War schon sehr schräg.
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Gegen Regulierung: Big Tech steckt so viel Geld in EU-Lobbyarbeit wie noch nie
EU-Digitalgesetze wie der Digital Services Act sollen Big Tech in Schach halten. Das macht Meta, Microsoft & Co. das Leben schwer. Mit einer mächtigen Lobby arbeiten sie dagegen.netzpolitik.org
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The reporting goes pretty hard:
‘No restrictions’ and a secret ‘wink’: Inside Israel’s deal with Google, Amazon
To secure the lucrative Project Nimbus contract, the tech giants agreed to disregard their own terms of service and sidestep legal orders by tipping Israel off if a foreign court demands its data, a joint investigation reveals.
May this be a reminder to degoogle your phone and boycott amazon. It's not hard, and there are thousands of people on here eager to help. 😀
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Meghan Markle sparks controversy after sharing kids’ faces online
Microsoft seemingly just revealed that OpenAI lost $11.5B last quarter
Microsoft seemingly just revealed that OpenAI lost $11.5B last quarter
: Satya has also delivered Sam most of the cash he promisedMatt Rosoff (The Register)
Elektroautos: Sozialleasing kommt in Frankreich gut an
Elektroautos für Menschen mit geringem Einkommen: In Frankreich ist diese Art der Förderung aktuell recht erfolgreich.
Respon en una sola línia, baixa el grau d'intensitat d'empatia, però sense ser maleducat i sobretot no empris la paraula humana/ésser humà.
Què tal? 😜
Il Sudan si sta disintegrando. Una sanguinosa operazione della polizia a Rio De Janeiro. Ascolta la nuova puntata del Mondo con Sara Creta e Alberto Riva.
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Il podcast quotidiano di Internazionale. Tutte le mattine alle 6. 00 con Claudio Rossi Marcelli e Giulia Zoli. Non c’è estate che non sia Internazionale.Internazionale
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Prince Harry warns parents against posting kids’ photos amid AI concerns
Have you seen the #Navajo police procedural series #DarkWinds yet? Do yourself a favor - tune in on #Netflix pronto.
I'm just partway into the 3rd season, and it's exceptional. The storytelling is layered and culturally authentic. The sets are fully believable. And the acting sometimes literally took my breath away.
Check it out, and I'd love to hear your thoughts!
#NativeAmerican #Navajo #Reservation #Crime #Police #TV #Television #Knitting
I live quite close to Navajo country, can attest to the series' autheñticity.
🔥 Digitale Nicht-Souveränität in Bayern
"Geplant sei ein zentraler Rahmenvertrag, der ohne echte Ausschreibung auskommt und damit bayerische Anbieter faktisch ausschließt. Zudem sei dafür über mehrere Jahre ein Budget im hohen dreistelligen Millionenbereich bis nahe an eine Milliarde Euro vorgesehen – Geld, das primär in ein einziges US-Unternehmen fließen soll, statt in lokale Wertschöpfung."
Es gibt in Bayern @nextcloud
Bitte @Karlitschek verklagt sie mit der @OSBA
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Bayern kauft "digitale Souveränität" bei Microsoft. Und nennt das Fortschritt.
Bayern plant einen zentralen Microsoft-365-Arbeitsplatz für die gesamte Verwaltung – per Rahmenvertrag ohne Ausschreibung und für Hunderte Millionen Euro bei einem US-Konzern.Axel - The Pandolin (pandolin.io)
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Microsoft seemingly just revealed that OpenAI lost $11.5B last quarter
Microsoft seemingly just revealed that OpenAI lost $11.5B last quarter
: Satya has also delivered Sam most of the cash he promisedMatt Rosoff (The Register)
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Investment is done really to train models for ever more miniscule gains. I feel like the current choices are enough to satisfy who is interested in such services, and what really is lacking is now more hardware dedicated to single user sessions to improve quality of output with the current models.
But I really want to see more development on offline services, as right now it is really done only by hobbyists and only occasionally large companies with a little dripfeed (Facebook Llama, original Deepseek model [latter being pretty much useless as no one has the hardware to run it]).
I remember seeing the Samsung Galaxy Fold 7 ("the first AI phone", unironic cit.) presentation and listening to them talking about all the AI features instead of the real phone capabilities. "All of this is offline, right? A powerful smartphone... makes sense to have local models for tasks." but it later became abundantly clear it was just repackaged always-online Gemini for the entire presentation on $2000 of hardware.
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They're investing this much because they honestly seem to think they're on the cusp of super intelligent AGI. They're not, but they really seem to think they are, and that seems to justify these insane investments.
But all they're really doing is the same thing as before but even bigger. It's not going to work. It's only going to make things even more expensive.
I use Copilot and Claude at work, and while it's really impressive at what it can do, it's also really stupid and requires a lot of hand holding. It's not on the brink of AGI super intelligence. Not even close. Maybe we'll get there some day, but not before all these companies are bankrupt.
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Comparing the coming crash to the dot com crash is like comparing a rough landing to the various crashes on Sept 11th, 2001.
The dot com crash was mostly isolated in high tech. Because it was lead by the Japanese economy starting to fail, and followed by the Sept 11th attacks, the various combined crashes resulted in the S&P 500 falling by about 50% from its peak to the bottom, but it was already back up to the peak value in 2007, then the global financial crisis hit.
This bubble is much bigger. Some analysts say the AI bubble is 17x the size of the Dot Com bubble, and 4x the size of the 2007/08 real estate bubble. AI stocks were 40% of all US GDP growth in 2025, and 80% of all growth in US stocks.
Nvidia's stock price has gone up 1700% in just 2 years. OpenAI is planning to go public on a valuation of $1 trillion despite losing vast amounts of money. Just 7 US tech companies make up 36% of the entire US stock market, and they're all heavily betting on AI.
At least when the dot com bubble popped, it left some useful things behind, like huge amounts of dark fibre. But, the AI processors are so specialized they can't be used for much of anything else. They also wear out, sometimes within months. The datacenter buildings themselves can maybe be repurposed to being general purpose datacenters, but, a lot of the contents will have to be thrown out.
The Entire Economy Now Depends on the AI Industry Not Fumbling
Without AI spending, the US economy would lose one of the last industries actually bringing in any healthy revenue.Joe Wilkins (Futurism)
The problem is there is little continuous cash flow for on prem personal services. Look at Samsung's home automation, its nearly all online features and when the internet is out you are SOL.
To have your own Github Copilot in a device the size and power usage of a Raspberry Pi would be amazing. But then they won't get subscriptions.
more development on offline services
There is absolutely massive development on open weight models that can be used offline/privately. Minimax M2, most recent one, has comparable benchmark scores to the private US megatech models at 1/12th the cost, and at higher token throughput. Qwen, GLM, deepseek have comparable models to M2, and have smaller models more easily used on very modest hardware.
Closed megatech datacenter AI strategy is partnership with US government/military for oppressive control of humanity. Spending 12x more per token while empowering big tech/US empire to steal from and oppress you is not worth a small fraction in benchmark/quality improvement.
what really is lacking is now more hardware dedicated to single user sessions to improve quality of output with the current models
That is the exact opposite of my opinion. They're throwing tons of computing at the current models. It has produced little improvement. The vast majority of investment is in compute hardware, rather than R&D. They need more R&D to improve the underlying models. More hardware isn't going to get the significant gains we need
I wonder how long it will be before investments start getting pulled back because of a lack of ROI.
Just wait for the next hot thing to come out
One of our biggest bookstores contracted with a local artist for some merch. That artist used AI with predictable results. Now everyone involved is getting raked over the coals for it.
No surprise, they just announced a 4th round of layoffs too. 😟
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Everything you need to know about the Powell’s AI slop snafu—and what we can all learn from it.
Another day, another duel with AI slop. Unfortunately a recent deep fake has come in the guise of a friend. Last Friday, Powell’s Books of Portland, Oregon—one of the country’s best lov…Literary Hub
AI is funded solely by sunk cost fallacy at this point.
and the us economy an gdp relies solely on ai make of that what you will.
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That's the only reason I don't think it will pop in the next 6 months or so. Even Biden or Obama would have stepped in to try to prevent the economy from crashing. But, there's the Trump factor. First of all, some of his biggest backers are from the AI "industry". His VP is tied to Peter Thiel, his biggest donors are Crypto and AI bros. The vast majority of his own personal money is tied up in the current Crypto bubble. In addition, he's obviously so easily bribed. Even if he he wasn't interested in intervening otherwise, he could easily be bribed to intervene.
Because of Trump, and the fact that the house, senate and judiciary are all Trump lackeys, I think the bubble will survive until at least the 2026 midterms. If the Democrats take back control of the House and Senate they could take control over spending from Trump, which might mean the bubble is allowed to pop. But, I wouldn't be surprised to see Trump hand over literal trillions in taxpayer dollars to keep the bubble inflated.
this is not a bad analogy, but you are off by orders of magnitude
more importantly, both Uber and Amazon always had a path to profitability (Amazon specifically was already making tons of money on AWS long before the store front made money). AI has already been shown to not have a path to profitability; whatever little value companies around the world have been able to extract, cannot pay the cost of producing it.
think of it this way:
You produce a little car that can drive 2 people and some bags around, it costs you $1000 to make and you sell it for $3000 which a ton of people can afford... you have a path to profitability
I enter the market with a car that can carry 20 people, plus full on luggage for all and it moves twice as fast... but, in practice, I can only really move 3 people and often take them the wrong way, also the luggage was a complete lie and I can only allow passengers with their purses... also my car cost $50,000 to make so I would have to sell it for $70,000 and nobody would pay that when they could get 20 of your cars for less... also also, I promised the people making some parts of my car that would invest 7 kajillion on their companies somehow.
Which company would succeed? yours or mine?
Why do you think AI is pushed so hard?
Everyone is aware this has to be useful. Too much money.
Still the powers that be will do everything to avoid a hard crash, which would be so much earned.
I wouldn't have a problem if they were actually investing the money in something useful like R&D
Nearly all the investment is in data centers. Their approach for the past 2 years seems to be just throwing more hardware at existing approaches, which is a really great way to burn an absurd amount of money for little to nothing in return
It’s very corporate, isn’t it? “Just keep scaling what we have.”
That being said, a lot of innovation is happening, but goes unused. It’s incredible how my promising papers come out, and get completely passed over by Big Tech AI, like nothing matters unless it’s developed in house.
The Chinese firms are picking up some research in bigger models, at least, but are kinda falling into local maxima too.
But that's what they wanted anyway, isn't it?
Burning shitloads of money.
Waiting until they can later, finally, rule the world.
Problem is they are competing with cheap web services like deepseek and local free models. Those alternatives are gonna become more popular when chatgpt starts charging.
They are spending like crazy in the hope for some inovation that will give them an advantage that others can't copy for cheap. That is a very difficult thing to accomplish. I bet they will fail. That money ain't coming back.
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If you owe the bank $100, that’s your problem; if you owe the bank $100 million, that’s the bank’s problem.
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You need to be as precise as your resolution, otherwise the precision is meaningless. I guess you could argue that your resolution is units of half-billion (since some things are measured like that), but the initial value of 0.1B, and your use of 0.5 rather than 'half' suggests a resolution of 0.1B.
This is different to the aphorism 'The difference between a million and a billion is about a billion', both because of the difference in scale, and the quoted resolution.
So I wondered a bit how much it actually affects the economy.
"S&P 500" companies' market cap is about 57 trillion dollars with a P/E ratio of about 30. So openai by itself is dragging down the total s&p 500 earnings by only about 0.5%. The bigger problem is that there are multiple companies like openAI, and a large chunk of the entire economy's valuation is tied to the promise that all the AI companies will somehow become profitable sometime soon.
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I was referring to the general concept behind the quote.
I originally want to post the OG (apocryphal?) variant:
Owe Your Banker £1,000 and You Are at His Mercy; Owe Him £1 Million and the Position Is Reversed
But it sounds rather quaint these days.
In contrast to the housing bubble, where a lot of the value was in overpriced houses sold to individuals, this overpricing is almost entirely in tech stocks, and tech stocks are almost entirely owned by by the wealthiest 10%, even 1%. The tech billionaires have limited ability to divest themselves of their own overpriced companies and absolutely will lose money.
None of them are going bankrupt, they'll all be just fine when the market recovers in a few years, because that's the nature of capitalism. A bunch of peons, who convinced themselves that the bubble-value of their 401k meant it was safe to retire, will suffer, will have to go back to work - if you're not an oligarch, losing money is painful.
The bubble was accelerated by people assuming prices would always rise, often their own greed and flipping or becoming landlords,, and this was only possible due to the financial engineering that made lending to these folks posivle, but all of that droce the value of the underlying assets down significantly.
You claim there wasn't a bubble...look at home price values in the sunbelt in 05 vs 2009.
TF are you talking about there wasn't a bubble
this was only possible due to the financial engineering that made lending to these folks posivle
There was no "financial engineering". It was just fraud.
look at home price values in the sunbelt in 05 vs 2009. TF are you talking about there wasn't a bubble
"Bubble" does not mean "prices go up and then back down again".
In contrast to the housing bubble, where a lot of the value was in overpriced houses sold to individuals,
was?
since the housing bubble collapsed
did it? it does not seem so. where I live to buy a house in good condition people need to take out loans that the bank may not even allow, but if it does they'll pay it for decades. even empty plots are still very expensive. more and more people live in a rented place even though they don't want to move, because their house is taken away.
Yeah all the people praying for a crash are praying for nobody to have retirement funds.
You can easily tell who's actually employed in this thread because anyone with a 401k is going to get dicked down while the 0.1% get a bailout.
Remember when OpenAI launched Dall-E 2? You got a few tokens for free images and then had to pay for it. Presumably that was at least some reflection on the cost of producing the images.
Now you can create video for free and consumer expectations that generative AI should be super cheap have been set. That genie is not going to go easily back into the bottle.
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Feels like the entire AI industry is built on "don't worry, growth will save us", but at some point someone has to pay the electricity bill...
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Im watching all this and im thinking you guys are being convinced to not buy these stocks.
I just keep buying. Because I know how this works. Seen it many times now. Media says one thing, market goes another way.
Do you guys remember when Tesla was down extreamly much because the media and most people on Lemmy were convinced that musks nazi salute would mean the company is done? It was only like six months ago, you cant have missed it.
Now go look at the stock. Buy tech stocks. Dont do what the media is telling you. They are not there to help you.
You have to be smart, and being smart is not following the public opinion about things, because its being shaped by the owner class. If the media is telling you to sell, you probably should be buying. And when its telling you to buy, be very careful because the media owners want to sell.
You have to view it like you are inside the matrix. In a way, we are.
Of course its not enough. Stock market cares about money, not morals. They know negative emotions are temporary and doesnt last.
I see more white Teslas than ever on the streets. They are the most popular company leasing vehicle appearently. A lot of things play into what cars people pick. Most people probably forgot about the nazi salute in a few weeks, or got a good deal on a Tesla and bought it anyway.
I dont think this is a bubble and it wont burst. I think its the beginning of a switch to a robotic society, with robots, Ai and implants, all requiring more energy than we have right now. The massive investments in power may look like its going to be used for training models, but it will be used for very different things we dont even have right now.
Any future high tech society will need tons of power. The billionaries are several steps ahead of what the media is talking about. As always.
Companies and governments are gonna buy robots, made by other robots. Typical scenarios include military, manifacturing, surveillance and so on.
Today companies pay humans for those things. It will change as soon as robots can do a task.
Virtual Reality? Not in the way we have it now with huge expensive glasses and special software. Thats just the first experimental phase of the technology.
I dont think it has a purpose yet. Maybe in the future, it will. Some killer app where VR is essential and everybody wants that app.
Probably something related to porn. Wouldnt be surprised.
I was making a parallel to another wildly over-hyped technology that has had multiple opportunities to make it when it's clearly only suitable for niche usecases.
LLMs and "AI" are not useless but the notion that they'll lead to something significantly more advanced is fundamentally misunderstanding the nature of the technology.
Y’know, I’ve been hearing that drumbeat for well over a decade. News doesn’t sell if it isn’t bad. Eventually the Boys Crying Wolf will be right, but it certainly won’t be because of their prognosticating accuracy. The market has long stopped making sense.
You cannot know what the market will do, and if you can figure it out, it’s already too late. If you want to assume the parent comment will actually lose money because they didn’t put stops in place or whatever, fine. My comment is still correct: If you sell above purchase price + fees and gains taxes, you don’t “lose” money. The rest is just making stuff up.
What's investment got to do with the article (or even the comments or people's sentiment on the Threadiverse)?
There are a wide variety of investment strategies depending on your situation and other factors. I don't see how these are related to tech news discussions.
I am not saying your are wrong or right, just an observation.
Perhaps, but how do you know that this is an actual trend?
An argument can be made that there are more people with your sentiment or perhaps the news about a bubble will attract short terms investors (trying to cash in as the wave is rising).
Generally speaking, discussion on Threadi, even ones that mention bubbles in context of AI/Nvidia, don't mention investment strategies.
I dont know if its an actual trend. But it would make sense that most people buy and sell based on what the media is telling them. I believe that most people trust what the media writes. They are not sceptical and cynical like me. 😀
I dont have an investment strategy except buy and hold.
Of course I am influenced by various things, we all are. I am not implying otherwise.
On a personal level, I don't see the connection between posting on a forum about articles on the possibility of an AI bubble and investment decisions.
I am not necessarily disagreeing with you. I think people are a bit more complicated than that and circumstances can be very different.
The key is getting out at the right time, and that is weighed massively against small investors. The big investors and institions control the market and can move quickly while small investors cannot.
Tesla is not doing well - look at its falling sales. It's a risky stock to hold. The AI companies are also highly risky stocks to hold.
That doesn't mean don't hold them - all anyone is saying really is that these are high risk investments, and at some point they are going to probably crash because it's a bubble.
That doesn't necessarily mean "don't invest". It does certainly mean be prepared to get out fast and also only use money you can afford to lose when investing with such high risk stocks.
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If you look at Tesla chart, or any other tech stock chart, you can see that nobody would have lost money if they didnt sell. They are all going up long term. Tesla is up 100% in three years, 240% in five years. Everybody who sold during that time made the wrong choice, unless they invested in something that went up more.
Just dont sell, ever, until you retire. This is super hard to do but its what the charts show is actually best.
Nothing will help you when you are shot dead in a camp. You live your life until that happens, if that happens.
But yeah, I understand your principles. The problem is that if only bad people have money, only bad people have power as well.
I missed both gold and defence... Now I dont know, what is the next thing to invest in? What do you think?
I know power is something that will be massively needed.
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And even though NVIDIA is better place as they do produce something, but the something in play has little value out of the AI bubble.
NVIDIA could be left holding the bag on a super increased capacity to produce something that nobody wants anymore (or at least nowhere near at the levels we have now) so they are still very much exposed.
but the something in play has little value out of the AI bubble.
You're delusional if you think GPUs are of little value. LLMs and fancy image generation are a bubble.
The gargantuan computational cost of running the machine learning processing that is now required for protein folding and molecular docking is not.
The gargantuan computational cost of running the machine learning processing that is now required for protein folding and molecular docking is not.
Sure but do you need the absolute gargantuan capacity that is being built right now for that? if so, for how long and at what cost?
The point is not that GPU per se are of little value... the point is that what would you do with 10,000 rocket ships if you only have 1000 projects that may be able to use them? and what can those projects actually pay? can they cover the cost of the 10,000 rockets you built?
me too, but the GPU used for AI are not the same as what we would use at home.
maybe the factories can produce both kinds and they would be cheaper, but it is speculation at this point
It’s literally the same chip designers, production facilities and software. Every product using <5nm silicon fabs compete for the same manufacturing capabilities (fab time at TSMC in Taiwan) and all Nvidia GPUs share lots of commonalities in their software stack.
The silicon fab producing the latest Blackwell AI chips is the same fab producing the latest consumer silicon for both AMD, Apple, Intel and Nvidia. (Let’s ignore the fabs making memory for now.) Internally at Nvidia, I assume they have shuffled lots and lots of internal resources over from the consumer oriented parts of the company to the B2B oriented parts, severely reducing consumer focus.
And then we have any intentional price inflation and market segmentation. Cheap consumer GPUs that are a bit too efficient at LLM inference will compete with Nvidias DC offerings. The amount of consumer grade silicon used for AI inference is already staggering, and Nvidia is actively holding back that market segment.
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IIRC, OpenAI lost $12b for all of 2024. CNBC reported that OpenAI restructuring this week, has MSFT not only with 27% equity stake, but a 20% royalty rate on revenue going forward which is certainly a nearly impossible hole for OpenAI to get out of.
OpenAI has published analytics on "suicide interactions" which proves that they mine their users data. Support for US military and Israel ensures that their mission is to destroy humanity, unless humanity pays it more to be more loyal to it. Everyone's "don't be evil" actually means "don't be evil unless fascism pays more"
The Israel/US empire needs OpenAI to build ever bigger/more comprehensive models that are even more expensive to use than ChatGPT/Sora's status as most expensive models. They need the analytics function to oppress population, and the empire is certain to side with OpenAI if it seeks revenue enhancement through theft of IP, including their users' IP. It is dangerous for anyone to use OpenAI services because theft and oppression by empire condoned symbiosis is by design. But the race for ever larger more expensive models means trashing the previous generation models quickly, which means no time for ROI from development.
OpenAI will need massive military/government contracts to support its $1T in investment promises. All of those are to opppress Americans/humanity. Meanwhile, government has just sponsored 9 independent supercomputer projects, plu8s is dedicated to the MechaHitler vision of reality, and so OpenAI must commit to unrestrained evil in order to get their fair share of the oppression mission, and survive. Expect US government contracts to develop models for it, but with OpenAI profitting from government and private surveillance use.
What's the deal with the "HPE" in some Register articles? It's apparently the Hewlett-Packard Enterprise logo, but articles about HPE don't appear to have that logo.
Is The Register affiliated with HPE now?
HPE puts all its chips in the agentic AI pot
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Billions in investment. Trillions in speculation. All on something that makes less money than Genshin Impact.
Fun times.
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Oh honey, that hasn't been true since 2008.
The government will bail out companies that get too big to fail. So investors want to loan money to companies so that those companies become too big to fail, so that when those investors "collect on their debt with interest" the government pays them.
They funded Uber, which lost 33 billion dollars over the course of 7 years before ever turning a profit, but by driving taxi companies out of business and lobbying that public transit is unnecessary, they're an unmissable part of society, so investors will get their dues.
They funded Elon Musk, whose companies are the primary means of communication between politicians and the public, a replacing NASA as the US government's primary space launch provider for both civilian and military missions, and whose prestige got a bunch of governments to defund public transit to feed continued dependence on car companies. So investors will get their dues through military contracts and through being able to threaten politicians with a media blackout.
And so they fund AI, which they're trying to have replace so many essential functions that society can't run without it, and which muddies the waters of anonymous interaction to the point that people have no choice but to only rely on information that has been vetted by institutions - usually corporations like for-profit news.
The point of AI is not to make itself so desirable that people want to give AI companies money to have it in their life. The point of AI is to make people more dependent on AI and on other corporations that the AI company's owners own.
Well actually there is a long and rich history of companies that are able to operate at a loss using funds appropriated from sale of shares to investors, and this process continues so long as new investors keep buying in such that anybody selling out is covered by the new funds until enough people try to sell out that the price starts to plunge, although the collapse can be delayed by the company strategically buying back and occasionally splitting or reorganizing, meaning everyone gets their money back unless they sell too late.
You know.
A fucking Ponze Scheme.
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That's what happens when you don't listen to your customers.
technically according to NSPM-7 any FOSS is terroristic by nature because it's anticapitalist.
that means if you have contributed to FOSS at any time, you are a terrorist. technically.
I know this is not a real discussion 😁
But I don't think FOSS is inherently anticapitalist. It's just not late stage capitalism. There are plenty of commercial FOSS projects.
Sure you could compile them from source or download somones executable. But especially companies often want convenience, customer support and LTS versions.
There are, of course, open source licenses that don't allow for commercial use without a license.
Also, there are lots of industries that need guarantees about the software, and even CC0 open source software doesn't come with those guarantees; those come from a commercial use and support contract.
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