Pris dans la toile De l'utopie d'Internet au capitalisme numérique - Sébastien Broca, Seuil, mai 2025
Sortie d'un livre que je n'ai pas encore lu mais que, connaissant son auteur, j'anticipe comme important pour le débat et pour notre propre auto-critique : "comment les idéaux des uns ont servi les interets des autres"
Par une enquête fouillée, le chercheur Sébastien Broca montre comment les contestations critiques ont pu paradoxalement ouvrir la voie aux géants de l'internet. Il est rejoint en deuxième partie par l'artiste Stéphanie Solinas.
@ThierryJoffredo hâte de le lire ! Mood du moment : l’utopie d’Internet (le web) c’est comme Cravirola, une communauté agricole ouverte géniale qui passe par des hauts et des bas puis finit par être parasitée par des tox-dealers qui n’en foutent pas une et vivent au crochet des autres tout en développant un business nocif. Comment rattraper ça ?
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side note (and maybe I gave flu and it’s making me more stupid) but what are the arguments for having SSL on brochureware websites that don’t collect private information?
because we used to live in a world where ISPs, open wifi networks (cafes, etc) could intercept your HTTP responses and inject javascript/HTML into your browser to force you to see ads and/or attack you
Thanks everyone for your comments on this. I like this excerpt from doesmysiteneedhttps.com:
"this discussion isn't about PKI. It's the best system we've got for right now. Deal with it and secure your site. Use CAA records to restrict which CAs can issue certificates for your site, then cross your fingers and hope transparency and oversight works (it does, so far)".
Do you all feel that there is enough integrity in browser trusted root certificate stores to still provide robust defence against the content / malware injection threat?
Also - have these kinds of injection attacks ceased now, and is SSL the reason for this?
> Do you all feel that there is enough integrity in browser trusted root certificate stores to still provide robust defence against the content / malware injection threat?
It's the best we can do with what we've got to work with. All we can hope is that the bad actors get caught from the Certificate Transparency Logs and are swiftly removed from all root certificate stores as their punishment.
Thanks again to everyone who contributed to this thread. So this is what I'm hearing:
HTTPS still matters, even for static or non-interactive sites: • Mitigates content injection: Many ISPs and network operators have historically injected ads, tracking scripts, or even malware into unencrypted traffic. HTTPS prevents this by ensuring the integrity of the response between server and browser. • Defends against surveillance and manipulation: Examples of DNS hijacking, Gmail session spoofing, and targeted malware campaigns (e.g. FinFly), all made possible through unencrypted channels. HTTPS helps block these classes of attacks. • Removes network-level ambiguity: On public or hostile networks (e.g. hotel WiFi), HTTPS is the only realistic protection against on-path attackers modifying or observing content in transit. • Accessible and frictionless today: With Let’s Encrypt etc deployment is largely automated and cost-free for most use cases. • Normalizes secure transport: Widespread adoption means sensitive or at-risk traffic doesn’t stand out. Universal encryption helps everyone by minimizing soft targets.
On the other hand:
The CA model is a systemic weakness: Certificate Authorities remain a centralized point of failure. Trust is implicit and broad, and mechanisms like Certificate Transparency offer only partial mitigation. • Operational complexity remains an issue: Some tooling (e.g. Certbot) is complex and prescriptive, and certain practices (like root-required processes) can introduce risk or confusion for small deployments. • HTTPS doesn’t secure everything: It encrypts transport, but does not protect against compromised endpoints, malicious JavaScript, or bad site logic. • Trust shifts to browser vendors: Efforts like DNS-over-HTTPS, cert pinning, and HSTS move the locus of trust from networks to browsers — trading one set of risks for another.
Yes to basically all of this, but I would suggest that trust in browsers over networks is demonstrably better, where those browsers' source code is available. With networks there are as many chances for something to be wrong as there are networks, and each network's problems are only visible and addressable by a small group. For browsers, anyone who can see the source can evaluate it, giving a much wider opportunity to spot misconfiguration and error, and it only needs correction in one place for everyone to receive the benefit.
@charlvdwalt the content of the website doesn’t matter because the content is whatever an attacker wants it to be if you aren’t using SSL. Your brochureware is now malware.
@charlvdwalt SSL is super important and all, but that statement is awfully FUD-y. The odds of somebody actually doing that are vanishingly small, but you make it sound like their site can be replaced by anyone any time
regimes have used it as an attack vector, and so did several democracies too. ISPs have used it to inject ads. Encryption isn't only about privacy, it's critical to ensure that the contents of a message you received haven't been tampered with.
@gabrielesvelto @iagox86 @charlvdwalt The regimes most of us need to worry about all have their own CA or several they can get to do their bidding with some kind of "national security letter".
@iagox86 @charlvdwalt No, it was actually a really big issue which is why Google incentivized it. ISPs were injecting ads into random webpages, law enforcement and intelligence agencies made frequent use of it, and it was also a massive privacy risk. Almost every service provider has deep packet inspection and can/will monitor everything you do.
- adds dependency on CA - requires one more thing to work, ie be kept updated, to request new certs regularly - locks out old devices that don't support the crypto-flavor-of-the-month - the above adds friction, which makes Cloudflare et al more attractive to not have to bother, leading to increased mono culture
Encryption by default has removed a whole category of not just attacks, but scummy business practices. A little inconvenience to administrators is not even worth talking about.
Your comment reads exactly like a politician arguing for stripping worker protections or safety regulations because they inconvenience employers.
It’s tone deaf, deliberately ignorant, and dismissive of people who get to not be taken advantage of easily due to these measures.
In practice I've had more problems with broken https cert setups blocking me from pages that I've tried to access that I've had with ISP-injected ads. But I don't live in the US where that is/was legal, so YMMV I suppose.
And the fact that Letsencrypt and Cloudflare are used by such a large percentages of websites is a huge problem, IMHO. We need fewer single-points-of-failure, not more.
@mikaeleiman @slotos I would argue you see less of the latter issue because enough sites use SSL that it's not worth the effort for the ISP to set up an advertisement injection. Prevention tends to reduce the chances of a problem occuring.
@todb @iagox86 @charlvdwalt @pluralistic I remember phone interviewing with some company that was doing injections as part of "web acceleration". I did not follow up once i learned that aspect.
Also that was after working at AOL and learning their image compression was actually not bad... as long as you didn't dial all the settings down to their lowest values (as they did). So would have been sometime after 2004
@nuintari @todb @iagox86 @charlvdwalt @pluralistic Frontier (formerly Verizon's west coast network) rewrote Google search results via DNS hijacking to add referral codes to Amazon, etc, and may or may not have added their own ads. Pre SSL, of course. I had a reproducible test case that ran via cron at home so we could see when they turned it off and on.
The irony that this page isn't HTTPS and I can't change it to HTTPS, and searches from the main website drop it down to HTTP as well isn't lost on me...
(I can only guess they have a different host for their older articles that doesn't support SSL).
@azonenberg @nuintari @todb @iagox86 @charlvdwalt @pluralistic another example I can think of is that as recently as the late 10s, there was still the issue of cell vendors inserting mobile subscribers’ MSISDNs (or similar tracking ref) using HTTP transproxies for all non-HTTPS traffic - I recall this with at least one of the big US networks, and Vodacom in ZA also did something like it. probably many others worldwide if you dig around
@azonenberg @nuintari @todb @iagox86 @charlvdwalt @pluralistic it was a very big thing on public WiFi hotspots. It would break a lot of websites cos the advertising code would just jam new HTML elements in, shitty JavaScript, conflicting versions with what the page authors used... It was a nightmare
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[repost Legalna Aborcja] Nie mamy wątpliwości, że napis na tym transparencie to prawda. @abotakprzychodnia powstała właśnie po to by pomagać - bez względu na powód, bez oceniania - po to by każda osoba, która potrzebuje aborcji otrzymała wsparcie.
Powstała w tym miejscu, pod Sejmem, bo politycy i polityczki od lat udawali, że aborcji nie ma zakłamując rzeczywistość. Antyaborcyjne prawo jakie mamy w Polsce skonstruowane jest tak, by osoby, które aborcje robią zostawały z tym doświadczeniem same, wpędzane w poczucie wstydu, winy i strachu.
Ponad 130 osób dziennie robi aborcje tylko ze wsparciem #aborcjabezgranic, a 250-300 to liczba aborcji robionych w Polsce każdego dnia. 1 na 3 kobiety w Polsce ma doświadczenie aborcji. (CBOS, Doświadczenia aborcyjne Polek)
Prawo antyaborcyjne po wyborach z 2023 roku miało się zmienić, a jest coraz gorzej. Organizacje, które każdego dnia zapewniają dostęp do aborcji (wyręczając w tym państwo) nie otrzymują żadnego wsparcia od rządu. Stosunek osób u władzy do aborcji widać wyraźnie po tym co od dwóch miesięcy dzieje się pod @abotakprzychodnia - politycy i polityczki znów myślą, że jeśli odwrócą głowę to aborcja zniknie.
A aborcja jest. Nie wystarczy zamknąć oczu, by przestała być potrzebna, odwrócić głowy, by kobiety przestały ją robić. Aborcja jest, bo jest potrzebna kobietom, aby czuły się bezpieczne, aby mogły decydować o swoim życiu i o życiu swojej rodziny. Aborcja to doświadczenie wielu z nas, slogan wyborczy.
@abotakprzychodnia @aborcyjnydream dziękujemy, że jesteście! Trudniej nam jest pomoc Wam na miejscu, na Wiejskiej, ale wspieramy każdego dnia!
Im bardziej oni próbują zakazać aborcji, tym bardziej my wystawiamy ją do słońca. Dlatego idziemy o krok dalej i OTWIERAMY PIERWSZY W POLSCE STACJONARNY LOKAL! Zostań jego ambasadorką!
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in reply to nuko147 • • •If i go to sleep early I just lie awake for ages.
Instead I'm just trying to get up early enough, the amount of sleep I get be damned.