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I'm old enough to remember when having your photo and fingerprints taken by the authorities was reserved to convicted criminals.

Now it will eventually be all of us.
All of us constantly tracked by governments and corporations alike, requiring our biometric data for anything they feel like.

Our privacy rights are going down the drain under the pretext of security.

But it will not make us safer, on the contrary.
Don't believe their authoritarian lies.

#Privacy #MassSurveillance #Authoritarianism

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Belgium has been taking fingerprints for everyone aged 12 or over when applying for a (mandatory) ID card. There was virtually no political opposition to this harebrained nonsense.

It's crazy how countries everywhere are paving the way for totalitarian regimes.

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I have to give my thumbprint and picture for state ID in California. It's been coming for years. 😔
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@Em

When i was a boy, on ID cards they put your weight, your high, your hair colour, etc. It was required to identify a person and we didn't have anything better.

Today fingerprints are easier to use than before, they're used for the same goal and give a much better result. What's wrong with it?

If we accept the idea there's a need to identify people, why should we discourage good tools, as risky for our freedom, in favour of tools that are more ineffective? It sounds like we don't accept the idea of being identified (which I can understand but then we should talk about being or not being identified instead of saying we want the identification is done but it must be done using tools that are more error prone).

@Em
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This notion that biometric data collection will somehow keep us safe from terrorism seems to be one of the great follies that came out of 9/11.

Terrorism and criminality is the pretext, not the purpose.

I don’t believe it’s really the main purpose for liberal democracies, let alone authoritarian dictatorships.

What all governments want is conformity. They want people to feel a social pressure to conform - to obey laws (however draconian) and to work hard.

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clearly the only solution is for us to become them. Then they’ll be us, and it will start all over again?
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It is horrifying indeed. I (German) cannot renew my ID card since a fingerprint is mandatory in 2025. Without a valid ID card I am going to face problems for sure. I do not have any options though.
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our state had a major data breach 10s of thousands of photo ID drivers licences leaked. Took the govt months to reissue the licences with new numbers
How to you reset and issue new biometric data?
Matter of time till there's a breach, infact it makes it an irresistable target.
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in 2004 the US already did that to any traveller under visa waiver.
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It was usual and normal since I was a kid. The thing I find weird is how people are giving this data to anything and anyone, and not just government agencies which should handle this data with safety (and that they probably aren't handling this data correctly). Like, I refused to give my data to Stripe, no fucking way, there are official ways to prove my identity the government provide in such way they can know I'm me without they having access to my documents. No fucking way.

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What might seem like the absurd price of fame today, may soon become the inescapable price of participating in modern life.
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I'm now in a job where I see people getting their fingerprints taken for their jobs or their prospective jobs. Why? When did "background checks" become so essential? I once got turned down for a job stocking produce because of my "background", one charge in 50 years. What sense does that make?
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I'm old enough to remember when having your photo and fingerprints taken by the authorities was reserved to convicted criminals.

Now it will eventually be all of us.
All of us constantly tracked by governments and corporations alike, requiring our biometric data for anything they feel like.

Our privacy rights are going down the drain under the pretext of security.

WE MUST FIGHT BACK

in reply to Em

I used to refuse to enter any country that wanted to fingerprint me as, like you, I regard fingerprinting as something for criminals only.

But I broke my rule when offered a jolly to Japan.

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just drink the verification can, bro. It has electrolytes.
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and applicants for security clearances among other jobs in both government and industry. Oddly, fingerprints are relatively ambiguous. Current digital surveillance techniques are much more accurate.