Here's my first Mastodon post!
My mission out here? To understand and promote Mastodon, the only large European social media platform (to my knowledge).
How can we make more Europeans come to the Fediverse?
in reply to Phoenix Paulina Schmid

@gelbphoenix @karlos would be cool if the European Parliament created a Mastodon Instance, and offered all MEPs (Members of the Parliament) the ability to create an account on their instance. I know some social media savvy MEPs would appreciate that... It's a good idea you have there!

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@EUPetitionBot @nachtet Merde ;)
I just had the same idea to make a bot, using IFTTT and a WebHook by URLooker. But a WebHook only works with a payed IFTTT, which I don't have.
So @hpod16 , may be you can tell the ECI to explore the Fediverse or at last provide an RSS feed, to present their Mail-Newsletter at last.

This is the typical "non Fediverse" they have:
(Yes, they are on BlueSky, but the Link to the Fediverse does not work mostly)

in reply to RenΓ© Seindal (MOVED)

@seindal I think there's more and more people who think like that, given recent geopolitical tensions...
One hopes that based on this we'll see a bigger movement to Mastodon.
The European Commission has been here for quite a few years... But follower numbers have always been limited by limited numbers on Mastodon itself.
in reply to midzer

@midzer i usually do a small comparison on how different platforms work in normal use case vs. in extreme use case.

ppl "usually" understand how to use mastodon in a normal way (as if it's similar to twitter or whatever)

the extreme use case as being when bad things happen to a walled-garden platform. its users "may" realize they actually don't have the freedom to choose a different instance without losing communication to their connections (followers & following)

in reply to Tony Meredith

@Tony_Meredith I suppose one could say that values can make you join a new platform, but the fun is needed to keep one coming back?

I tend to sign up for all the new platforms (I'm a social media manager, so I want to stay on top of it all) but only the ones that really engage me keep me coming back.

Oh, an active community, that's important. Impressed with reactions here so far!

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Thanks for the comment, @der_schrank!
I can tell you there are people working on this.
Mastodon was recently included under the "share more" option, but I'll admit it could be even more prominent. It's a first step, more steps to come.
in reply to Hannah Grace

Awesome! Should probably move right to the top of the sharing options. πŸ˜…

Maybe it would make sense to migrate to using the term "fediverse" as well. Away from the product Mastodon, because there are also other products available and competing with their commercial counterparts like Friendica (alternative to Facebook), Pixelfed (alternative to Instagram) and Loops (alternative to TikTok).

(Not to mention various smaller projects and forks or alternatives to Mastodon as well)

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in reply to Hannah Grace

@der_schrank as you're learning about Mastodon and Fediverse, I *highly* suggest checking out some of the resources that @FediTips has released. They're how I learned most of what I know about fedi.

fedi.tips/

Best of luck!

in reply to River

@riverpunk @der_schrank
Hi Hannah, welcome!

About your question, Mastodon is part of a much larger social network called the Fediverse.

I've done an easy-to-understand guide about this at fedi.tips/what-is-mastodon-wha…

There are also lots more guides on the front page at fedi.tips and feel free to ask if you want help with anything specific. I am trying to provide unofficial tech support on here πŸ™‚

in reply to Hannah Grace

Heya and welcome!

How was/is your onbording experience?

A lot tech savvy people I know, simply say it is still too complicated and either don’t sign up, or when signed up struggle to find content and let their accounts go stale.

It took some work but with hashtags and starter packs I found all I need. Some people are even missing algorithms even though mobile clients mimic them πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

in reply to Hannah Grace

@dalcacer Mastodon is a higher barrier for me to clear currently, I need to either write a client myself or start using something that is light and either runs outside of a web browser or is compatible with more than just a few browsers. Sadly, Mastodon upstream not only requires JS, it's also using features that greatly restrict the amount of browsers one can use.

(Now a good thing here are the open specifications, meaning that like IRC, USENET and e-mail, one's not tied to some client, my usual example of this is pointing Microsoft Comic Chat, I think that client illustrates the idea of a significantly different interface built on top of an open protocol. I do like this aspect, but it might be less relevant to attract more users globally;... but it should be quite relevant and important for elected officials and EU institutions, of course, just like you'd not publish official documents only in proprietary formats.)

The thing is: the content makes it worth it. So even if it's currently more difficult, I try to have a look at Mastodon, in spite of that.

In another account I follow a bunch of hashtags and I end up having a lot of interesting content (sadly, sometimes overwhelming, I'm eagerly waiting for the ability to put hashtags in lists).

in reply to Hannah Grace

Personally, I talk about the Fediverse and why it is important a lot and there are many opportunities, even when just doing small talk. Most people are not happy with being manipulated by big tech, ad-driven social media. For many, I'm the first person to even tell them about the Fediverse. Of course, the vast majority won't join right away, but every impulse helps. I like focusing on positive aspects and advantages, and try to reach the person where they're at right now. And depending on the circumstances it might not be more than namedropping, but I still think it's very important to do. And I do look out for other opportunities to promote it.

I also like pointing people here:
jointhefediverse.net/

in reply to Fiona Ebner

Thanks for the comment, @totientfunction!

I'm enjoying Mastodon so far because it reminds me of a different time on social media.
There was a time I was to taken with social media, I loved it enough to make it my whole career. It's been 10 years since I started working with social media, and I've seen a lot of... change, much of it for the worse. Still believe that social media can be harnessed for good though.

in reply to Hannah Grace

start a campaign localised to each country asking politicians of all shades to move into the #fediverse point out that they can add a #mastodon or fediverse channel to their existing content distributer de. Or use @bufferapp or something similar to post to multiple channels. Give them an idiots guide to connecting to their local or preferred server. @Ciarancuffe
in reply to Hannah Grace

Two attractive things IMO:

"channels" of practical information. My city has Fediverse announcements of power and water outages (planned or emergencies), wastewater disease tracking, other stuff it's just handy to see. More time-sensitive than a webpage, less time-sensitive than emergencies or transit outages (I get those over SMS).

Ideally useful info, not just press releases; and really ideally someplace a citizen can report trouble

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@hpod16

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in reply to clew

"social" is less obviously something for a government to Do, but I bet a government could help translate popular client software into all the national languages, or sponsor "how to host a small instance" the same way there are community classes in gardening or any adult pursuit.

One of my hobbyhorses is that "hosting" is TWO important jobs, the computer side and the human side -- in English it's the same kind of "host" that might run a regular salon, or a friendly bar, etc.

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in reply to Hannah Grace

it's usually called "moderation" online, but IMO it's like parties!

You welcome new people, you have a sense of both the agreed beliefs and the issues that are going to be touchy for your group, you do ongoing organization so people can find the good stuff...

and sometimes you have to throw somebody out though in a good system that's RARE and it always involves some people feeling it was too early and some people feeling it wasn't early enough.

Familiar???

in reply to Hannah Grace

@ngi Welcome! Please promote the idea of decentralization. Empower communities to have their own instances. There is this analogy with email. For better or worse, because there is always the danger of centralization, even though the underlying technology is decentralized. Just as it happened with email. Government institutions should also decentralize across all administrative units to make this idea clear. It is not enough to support the decentralized gathering of civil society in the Fediverse by funding the technical infrastructure. Software development must also continue to be funded, as has been done for years by the Next Generation Internet initiative.
in reply to Hannah Grace

Welcome! By telling them not to overthink it.

1. There ARE plenty of active Europeans on here, in all EU languages, you can really turn it into a nice little anglo-free oasis with the right filters and still have plenty of content.
2. We're not all techies. I still don't know wtf is a Linux, it's fine. If you just want to shitpost and share cat pictures or share stitching patterns or soup recipes, you'll find your people by following hashtags.
3. Show them #FinnCleo

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in reply to Hannah Grace

Sure! You can follow hashtags! If there’s a topic you enjoy, you can follow that instead of individual users.
We're big on alt-text here, so please add it to images you include in your posts.
YOU are the algorithm. If you see something cool or interesting, boosting that post is what gives it legs.
You can follow or share from other Fedi services here on Mastodon.
EVERYONE's posts are an RSS feed, meaning you can literally subscribe to a Mastodon user & see their posts in your RSS reader.
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in reply to Hannah Grace

this is my suggestion:
mastodon.social/@leanderlindah…

And this
mastodon.social/@_elena/115762…

And you (the commission) should invite researcher @carl to tell you about Masto and the Fediverse. You have the power to make a difference with your presence.
carlheath.se/aboutme/


RE: ec.social-network.europa.eu/@H…

Imagine how powerful it would be if von der Leyen, Costa and Kallas made their statements first on a EUROPEAN open, free, non-algorithmically distorted social media network. πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡ΊβœŒοΈ

And then later with a 60 minute delay on the account-registration-requiring, data-collecting, algorithmically-distorted US networks?
#digitalsovereignty #goEuropean #EUpol

(Borrowing ideas from @carl and @bike4climate)

CC: @EUCommission @HennaVirkkunen

β™² @HennaVirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu:

Territorial integrity and sovereignty are fundamental principles of international law. They are essential for Europe and for the international community as a whole.
Joint statement by President von der Leyen and President Costa on Greenland: ec.europa.eu/commission/pressc…



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Hannah Grace

@phf πŸ’œ thanks for sharing your views! I have to admit this is also not my first attempt at the fediverse... That said this time I think I'll stay. πŸ˜€
Also: I say Europeans because I work for the EU - so that's my personal focus. I want our EU institutions to reach EU citizens, be it here or elsewhere. But of course the fediverse is and should be global.
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in reply to Hannah Grace

Just noticed your occupation... well, if we could make the EU bosses understand that the fediverse and mastodon is a truly democratic and free social media, that would be awesome 😊 It has no single company profiting from it. Everyone can host their own server, if they want to. Or join what server they want to. There's no need for a "W" copy of X.
in reply to Hannah Grace

Hi @hpod16 and welcome,
I don't see mastodon being a #platform. Mastodon.social is but one server. As is eupolicy.social. Among many. Among many non-mastodons. There is no such thing as 'one platform'.
No kings. No landlords. One social web.
P.S.: Greetings to #fosdem and #offdem.
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@clickhere @Trojaner @mastodonie @alex_p_roe

You should be able to see custom emoji no matter which instance you are on.

However, you can only use custom emoji yourself that are on your own instance.

If you can't see custom emoji from another instance, it's probably a temporary glitch.

More info about them at fedi.tips/what-are-custom-emoj…

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Calamity Joan 😷

That's a fair question, and I'm not sure of the answer.

On the one hand, it's a bit technical for me: I know that sometimes, I can't see custom emojis from other instances, but sometimes I can; and I don't know why!

otoh, they're a bit 'fun,' so are they necessary for a 'serious' instance? (If yes, maybe as a lower priority!?)

Possibly @FediTips has some guidance on this topic?

@Trojaner @mastodonie @alex_p_roe

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Calamity Joan 😷

@Trojaner Haha, this is amazing. (I was going to jump in with some info about emojis, etc., but I think it's mostly been covered.)

Yes, having custom emojis for your server/community is very important. The admins of @mastodonie - an Irish instance - added icons for a pint of stout, Tayto crisps (the national potato chip), Brennan's bread (an indispensable loaf), and (most important of all) a mug of tea. πŸ™‚

:pint: :crips: :brennans: :tae:

@alex_p_roe @hpod16

in reply to Hannah Grace

welcome to Mastodon!

I hope you'll enjoy being here.

As for your mission, It's my belief that explaining exactly what ActivityPub (and not just Mastodon) actually would be a great first step. ActivityPub is the protocol that every Fediverse service uses to dialogue with other services.

I also believe that @_elena and her (I hope this is the right pronoun Elena, if not just make me know and I'll edit) videos explaining the Fediverse would help a lot

in reply to Hannah Grace

@Hannah Grace Hi Hannah, welcome to the Fedi! Nice to see there's some actual interest in federated platforms from someone working for the EU.
(Nice to see quite some new folks here in the last days, actually.)
I'll be glad to share any tips you may need about it!
I'm a cellist BTW πŸ‘‹ (no lilac cello, just a boring old classical one πŸ˜‚)
in reply to Hannah Grace

@FediTips The trick with AI, and all translation really, is to have a native speaker approve the translation before making it public. AI saves time and the LLMs (not technically AI) can do context sensitive translations, reduce or increase formality levels, or even make texts more persuasive. Very clever stuff πŸ™‚ PS I used to some translation work but it has dried up!
in reply to Hannah Grace

@Bastianoso There are quite a lot of places and protocols on the internet that can lead to cool places happening.

I guess in the end it's not so much about Mastodon or the fediverse being good, but just about getting elected officials, institutions and companies to start using it. They shouldn't need to replace what they're already using, they can just complement it (although if they're using TSNFKAT, one might come up with questions regarding the kind of content provided by their bot as a service, and in that case, leaving one of the previously used services could be quite positive...).

Somebody could even come up with something not-quite-mastodon for such use cases, and it could still be integrated in the fediverse and allow a lot of interactions, I guess it doesn't even need to be Mastodon for they to get connected.

And that visibility is probably key to wider adoption. It doesn't help that there are elected officials or public entities which choose to only use commercial, proprietary services to interact with users/voters/..., but adopting something on the fediverse will also add to the visibility of the fediverse, besides increasing their own reachability.

We're even in an age where having a readable web page with a news section or a contact e-mail address is getting less common.

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Hannah Grace

@teclado @alex_p_roe @FediTips You're right, DeepL isn't free.
Actually the EU does provide free machine translation services, but you need an account and it's just for:
🟣 public administrations
🟣small businesses
🟣academia
🟣non-governmental organisations
🟣Digital Europe programmeβ€―projects
🟣candidates for EU posts
translation.ec.europa.eu/tools…
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Fedi.Tips

@teclado @alex_p_roe

It does depend on your instance, your admin will choose a translation system if they have one, usually LibreTranslate or DeepL.

Some instances may not have translation at all because the admin doesn't have the resources to pay for it. If you ask your admin to add translation, it might be a good idea to also offer a donation at the same time.

in reply to Alex P Roe

Just to be clear, the translation services on here are not "AI" in the sense of ChatGPT etc. They aren't large language models.

LibreTranslate and DeepL use a different technology and were founded years before ChatGPT etc.

The term "AI" has been used a bit too freely by the media to the point where people assume it means awful unreliable stuff like ChatGPT and other LLMs.

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in reply to Fedi.Tips

@FediTips @alex_p_roe I think "AI" gets a bad name too easily these days, because everyone treats it as synonymous with LLMs like Chat GPT. You can be skeptical of LLMs and generative AI, but still appreciate many technologies that rely on machine learning that have done great things for humanity, like discover new medicines, or make translation better.
But that's a topic for a whole new thread...
in reply to Fedi.Tips

@FediTips @alex_p_roe It's quite important to differentiate, since e.g. DeepL is protecting your privacy and personal data by only using personal data within the scope of legal regulations, in particular the General Data Protection Regulation ("GDPR") and the German Federal Data Protection Act ("BDSG"). This is also the reason why using DeepL is allowed in German public authorities, but ChatGPT absolutely is not.
in reply to Hannah Grace

Hi, and welcome!

Two points:

1. People think there's nobody here, because they wait for followers. But that's not how it works. You have to follow others here.

2. Although originally a German invention, there are people here from all over the world.

There are quite a few Mastodon 101 websites out there that explain how it all works, and who to follow, etc. People just have to find them and read.

in reply to Hannah Grace

@FediTips @alex_p_roe My usual view of this is to think of the different topics covered in e.g. Artificial Intelligence: A Modern Approach, or in university courses labelled "AI".

Even LLMs can be good tools, if properly trained and used. But no, what we get from the same marketing trends that call it "AI" is using it as a generic global solution for everythingTM, which I'd argue is using it wrong.

When I'm trying to refer to it unambiguously, I also tend to use "Generative AI", or perhaps the shorter "GenAI".

(There's also "Generative Autocomplete", and I tend to also think of "GIGO". And now it seems Satya Nadella of Microsoft is boosting the use of "slop".)

in reply to ptvirgo

@ptvirgo
I'm a social media manager at the European Commission.
We didn't have enough Mastodon experts on the team (we do have some) so I decided to join Mastodon myself to learn more about what works here, etc.
I went for eupolicy.social after a brief search, looks like it was made for people in the EU bubble, which I very much am.
(despite the fact that I have purple hair and interesting hobbies) πŸ’œ
in reply to ptvirgo

@ptvirgo not a rude mistake at all!
Just making sure I don't overstep or look like I'm promising anything here πŸ˜€
I'm very much here in my *personal* capacity, so I can't talk about anything we may or may not be planning.
I'm here for learning and inspiration πŸ’œ
And also to play around and create content.
I'm having a great time so far, and kind of being reminded of why I fell in love with social media in the first place.
in reply to Hannah Grace

"To understand Mastodon" (Fediverse):

If I'd follow you, I'd get all your posts in my feed.
Unlike other platforms, no algorithm filters for "relevance".
So, if I can't handle 30 toots per day from just one person, I can't follow you, in which case I get 0.

In other words, too many toots will decrease your visibility. A paradox probably unique to the Fediverse.

Hashtags can solve the issue. People can follow the tag, and you decide the subset of toots they will see.

in reply to Hannah Grace

That's a good question. Frankly speaking, I'm not sure. The fedi tips make a statement on "hashtag followers" but not on "followers".
I get a lot of feeds where people I follow answer somebody else. But I'm not sure about their settings.
It might not solve the issue, but "quiet public" is good practice, anyway.

fedi.tips/who-can-see-my-posts…

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in reply to Hannah Grace

I think a program that would provide funding to support some types of organizations setting up their own fedi instances could be a good idea for getting more of them on board. That could get all sorts of local information streams people naturally want to subscribe to over here.

Also, looking at for example the Forkiverse you see how effective that can be in getting people to at least try fedi when there's a natural community around something.

#forkiverse #digitalsovereignty

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@ikuturso
> a program that would provide funding to support some types of organizations setting up their own fedi instances

Yes! There is so much low-hanging fruit here. Take newsrooms, for example. They don't necessarily need anything as resource-heavy as a Mastodon server. Most of them already publish RSS, showing them how to use existing tools to also publish an AP feed would make much more quality content followable.

@hpod16

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Stage 2 could be showing them tools for collecting and browsing any replies to posts published by their RSS>AP bot. Tools that allow them to selectively publish comments, a la the newspaper convention of 'letters to the editor'.

Stage 3 could be a consortium of newsrooms sharing a server to create official accounts for their staff, using their employer's domain name. Using TakahΔ“, or other AP software where a single server can host accounts under more than one domain.

in reply to AntΓ³nio Manuel Dias

@ammdias I think it depends how you want to define influencer. Some prefer the term content creator.
People automatically think of vapid beauty influencers making money with random brands (although, good for them, I ain't here to throw shade).
But really isn't anyone who posts online a content creator? And if you do so successfully and become a thought-leader in your niche, are you not an influencer?
in reply to Hannah Grace

@ammdias Since most of the "paid influencing"-business is so closely tied to advertising, I think the road to "promoted content" in Fediverse is very long and complicated.

As you point out, we already have plenty of "content creator"-influencers, even people who make money out of it (selling their own services) but I don't think the advertising ecosystem can ever exist in fediverse the same way it does in VC-driven social media. And that puts some constraints on fedi audience.

in reply to Hannah Grace

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Have more people talk about the Fediverse. Encourage (and teach) members of parliament(s) to move their social media from proprietary (and toxic) platforms to Mastodon or other Fediverse applications.
Stop promoting X, facebook etc. on the EC website, or at least don't prioritise them (see image). Make a conscious push in the right direction. You have agency, use it instead of staying passive and claiming "but that's where the users are".
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