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Keep these monstrosities off our roads 🙅♂️
"US carmakers have accused Brussels of keeping their largest pick-up trucks, including the Ford F-150, the Chevy Silverado and the Ram 1500, off European roads”
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m_eiman
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •Disco3000
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Nuwagaba Gift
in reply to Kensan • • •Isn't their cost so high?
Kensan
in reply to Nuwagaba Gift • • •lit
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •killionaire
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •Michael Wyman
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •ma𝕏pool
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •This is not an important fight for American car makers. They just make noise out of habit.
Even with the current IVA loophole, the market for supersized American cars in the EU is minuscule. If they sold well, they would make EU type approved version and would have no need for IVA.
GhostOnTheHalfShell
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •Krzysztof Sakrejda
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •incredible cultural insensitivity from Brussels, don't they know that the F150 is Ford's *smallest* truck in that line?
Edit: for context the f-350 is 6.8 m long and 2.4 m wide, it's a common vanity truck in the US, I often see them without a scratch and with no dirt as though they'd never left the pavement (ah, the link is for the f-350 so ok) 🤣
Stoneface Vimes
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •s1m0n4
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •Tomás García Gobet
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •filobus
in reply to Tomás García Gobet • • •@reloadedhead goingdark.social/@cyberwitch/1…
You know, there are many truck drivers that get struck into narrow roads just because they followed G maps, that's another reason
If you are a danger for people you have no right to do as you wish for no reasonable necessity
The Cyberwitch
2026-04-08 12:50:58
Giovanni Petri
in reply to Tomás García Gobet • •maybe because the ones most endangered are not the ones driving such vehicles?
slotos
in reply to Tomás García Gobet • • •Not everything is a matter of want. I.e. we tend to not let people decide whether they want to kill children with blunt objects.
Moose Bites
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •björk : army of me (HD)
björk (YouTube)Spookybot
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •Dudula the Dud
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in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •christian mock
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •Santiago 🌸
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •I sometimes see the Ford Ranger, which is a "small" pickup per US standards and it's already ridiculously large. I hope we never see those monstrosities here.
But UVDL will UVDL and she might cave to them
Thomas Mayer
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •One of those times, where the Simpsons predicted the present.
youtu.be/PI_Jl5WFQkA
The Simpsons - Canyonero
Waluigi (YouTube)Martin Schröder 🇺🇳
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •Rin3d
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •Grant
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •craignicol
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •they wouldn't fit.
On the roads, in the car parks, in the garages.
They're a monument to waste
Jordi
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •Sydney / Prophet 🏳️⚧️🏴
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •We had an F150 beside us on a Dual Carriageway, somehow in the Blindspot but that was an F150 and I've no idea why anyone needs a vehicle that big
The bed capacity was lower than the Mercedes Sprinter my dad used to own and that thing was basically the same size as one of these, but that's a commercial vehicle.
Reddog
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •John_Loader
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •Simon Brooke
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •I strongly feel that vehicles should be taxed by unladen weight. The damage to roads -- which has to be met out of the public purse -- scales with the fourth power of the axle loading, and the tax should scale similarly.
It would be tricky to frame legislation which outlawed very large and heavy private vehicles which would not also outlaw fire engines, for example; but it wouldn't hurt to tax them into oblivion.
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Yrjänä Rankka 🌻
in reply to Simon Brooke • • •Pete Alex Harris🦡🕸️🌲/∞🪐∫
in reply to Yrjänä Rankka 🌻 • • •Put it in a crusher that will compact it down to the legally permitted length and bonnet height for safe visibility of pedestrians.
CelloMom On Cars
in reply to Yrjänä Rankka 🌻 • • •@ghard @simon_brooke
The Netherlands already taxes cars at sale according to their weight and carbon emissions. I think the annual road tax also goes up with weight.
About a decade ago I looked up the taxes for an Audi Q5: they were about € 20,000 at sale. You see very few of those on Dutch roads.
I expect other EU countries to have similar tax codes.
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Simon Brooke
in reply to CelloMom On Cars • • •@CelloMomOnCars @ghard That's true, but the rate of increase isn't nearly steep enough.
As I said, damage to the road scales with the fourth power of the vehicle weight, so if the fair tax on a vehicle weighing one ton is $100, then the fair tax on a vehicle weighing four tons should be $100,000,000.
Yrjänä Rankka 🌻
in reply to Simon Brooke • • •tkissing
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •Beinhart
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •Massimiliano Siddi
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •kingmoth
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •Also there are not adapted to coexist with pedestrians and bicycles.
Those problems doesn’t exist in US as cities are car centered and walking nearby or biking on roads is considered an heresy.
Drew 🇵🇭 ♾️
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •6.35m long?
How small are Americans' dicks that they need to compensate to this degree?
Kristen
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •sarpau
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in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •coldclimate
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •why I have nearly been run off th road twice in the last year
Nick Appleyard
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •Keep it up!
Jeff McNeill
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •Human Brain Enthusiast
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •Disco3000
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •CaliCarol
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •The EU should offer a compromise: allow the Tesla cybertruck to be sold.
(Because absolutely no one will by it but the Trump regime are too stupid to figure that out. They'll take the "win" back to the boss with pride.)
traecer
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •Ali Per Capita
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •🐧DaveNull🐧 ☣️pResident Evil☣
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •Fuck US carmakers… Actually, no, #fuckCars and the annoyance, pollution and danger they cause…
Cities should be built for people, not for cars…
Obot 50549535
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •Tobias 🌒🌕🌘
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in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •Andii אַנדִֽי
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •In our urban area, we already have problems accommodating the oversized cars on streets built for smaller vehicles. The issues are caused by both parking on kerbsides and trying to drive between vehicles parked both sides.
I honestly don't know why thedrivers put themselves through the hassle of the silent negotiating to get down a street with a vehicle coming the other way -which happens quite often by my observation.
The cost of 'upgrading' ...🤔😬
Flaming Cheeto
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in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •rich
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •Aria <3
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •xs4me2
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •Simply because they are a hazard.
Dangerous, not needed and not suited for European roads and cities.
geomaster337
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •echarlie
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •a fair comparison would be with the high-roof mercedes sprinter. Of course, the shortest sprinter van isn't even sold in the US, and is still some 30cm narrower than the F-SuperDuty.
Though I still won't defend how absurdly large our cars are. I want something affordable the size of the old jeep cherokee or a golf estate, and it just doesn't exist on the new market.
MarjorieR
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •bleuyank
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •Incredibish
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •Cars keep getting bigger, even here in the uk. Roads, on the other hand, refuse to widen and simply degrade faster because of the excessive burden of the vehicles' weight.
Engine cc and fuel economy are already largely constrained by fuel duty. Let's begin making VED decisions based on vehicle mass. Promote smaller cars and motorcycles over tanks.
Jake
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •Ryan Walmsley
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •American trucks are bloody massive but comparing it to a Twingo from 1998 is a little disingenuous.
The three trucks also mentioned (F-150, Silverado and 1500) are also much smaller than the F-350 you used too.
More realistic comparison, Dacia Sandero (apparently best selling car in EU) vs Silverado.
Still massive in comparison, but not the "wow it's gigantic" in comparison either.
Alix Guillard
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •Nice app. I always wanted to know how far Europe is copying USA.
JackMex
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •HeatherMJ
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •"All the better to kill you with!"
With apologies to little red riding hood
andyoneil
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •MintyFries
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •oaktree
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •They should simply impose a max width and length for car in public parkings.
Ham on Wry
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •Paco Velobs
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •Klaus Vink Slott
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •Isocat
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •The US – the only country on the planet to reject the international-consensus U.N. Vehicle safety and emissions regulations, instead clinging rabidly to their own (different, mostly not better, often substantially worse) standards, and which uses bogus taxes to keep non-US pickup trucks out – bitching about non-tariff trade barriers when the world's grownup countries close enforcement loopholes on the world's grownup vehicle standards. Fabulous.
Let's hope Europe doesn't repeat Japan's very stupid mistake.
Toni Aittoniemi
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •SKC 🏳️🌈
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •Felis_Catus_Domesticus
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •Their countries, their laws, their choice..
Alison Meeks
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •Waldorf
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •Erik Ableson
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •@lisamelton Also just stupidly inefficient in their use of space. It’s just automotive man-spreading.
David Truesdell
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •vampirdaddy
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •EU has no law barring US monsters from the market.
The cars must only obey the security requirements, esp. pedestrian safety.
Beyond 3.5t total weight (i.e. max loaded) a vehicle qualifies as freight transporter and requires an enterprise, a regularly re-tested commercial vehicles driving license (including medical check-ups every 2 years).
Plus speed limit at 80km/h as for any other truck.
Playerlist
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Zeemeermens
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •Matv1
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •That is an insane waste of energy
Schroedingers_Cat
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •MrGrumpyMonkey
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •AnnieBuddy
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •the funny thing is that these big trucks make their drivers look really small.
I think it is the opposite of what they are trying to achieve.
Breezy
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •It is ridiculous
Birgit Lachner 📯
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in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •Absofuckinglutely marvelous of Europeans to keep American monster cars and trucks off European roads. They crush other vehicles in accidents, their massive blind spots put every pedestrian and cyclist - people about whom Detroit automakers know nothing - in constant peril.
As with s/w, just because you make a product does not give you the right to sell it anywhere, any time, for any price, much less to force communities to build themselves around it - or suffer the consequences.
Nobody ناچیز नास्ति (he/him)
in reply to Frédéric Jacobs • • •Captain Jack Sparrow
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