Salta al contenuto principale


We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

"Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

"If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

-All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

-ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
-‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
-‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
-biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
-business telephone numbers used in the last five years
-business email addresses used in the last ten years.

privacyinternational.org/news-…

The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

Federal Register entry: govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-202…

Questa voce è stata modificata (3 settimane fa)
in reply to BrianKrebs

Seems like a good time — unfortunately — for those outside the US to #boycott major sporting events like the #WorldCup, #LAOlympics, etc. There is no way to guarantee the safety of travelers from abroad — just as there is no way to guarantee the safety of US citizens — until these fascists, goons, grifters and thugs are out of office. Sad.
in reply to BrianKrebs

@BrianKrebs

It's OK for me.

The only reason I'd go to USA is if my company forces me to do so.

Now I can say "no" also in that case, on the legal basis that I don't want to give up my privacy rights.

in reply to BrianKrebs

I feel for anyone in the travel, tourism and hospitality industries, which make up ~ 10M jobs and ~ 3 percent of the nation's GDP. From the U.S. International Trade Administration (trade.gov)

"Inbound international travel to the United States plays a vital role in the Nation’s economy and promotes cultural exchange and understanding. Travel and tourism is the largest single services export for the United States, accounting for 22 percent of the country’s services exports and 7 percent of all exports in 2023. The travel and tourism industry contributed $2.3 trillion to the U.S. economy in 2022 (2.97 percent of the country’s GDP), supporting 9.5 million jobs."

reshared this

in reply to BrianKrebs

I'm British, white, male, aged 60-ish.

Prior to February 2016 I typically visited the USA 3 times a year for up to six weeks.

Since February 2016 I have visited the USA twice in a decade, for a total of 10 days.

Entering the USA as a foreigner, with a Republican POTUS in the White House, *never* felt safe, but under Trump it looks diabolically dangerous. (And to a glance I resemble "one of them": I'm not female or dark-skinned.)

Questa voce è stata modificata (3 settimane fa)
in reply to Charlie Stross

@cstross

It's a beautiful country.

Visited a couple of times in the 90s, and did long road trips which were amazing. Still have a few friends over there that have yet to assume room temperature (I'm a little older than you) and with whom I still correspond.

Cannot and will not go back there until this crap-storm is over. So sad..

@briankrebs

in reply to Charlie Stross

@cstross Living here is not a walk in the park at this point...

I'd never ask anybody to travel here now. I'm glad I'm no longer in the events-organizing part of tech -- I couldn't host anything anywhere in the U.S. if it required people to come from outside.

Not our largest problem right now, but it's a fairly nasty symptom.

in reply to BrianKrebs

I keep thinking about how Florida has repeatedly shot themselves in the foot.
in reply to BrianKrebs

I don't remember a number of those things even if I wanted to.
in reply to BrianKrebs

So, basically, they don't want any visitors, any international witnesses or observers, for whatever they have planned for us, after they lock us all in?!?
in reply to Kim Possible

It seems there's _always_ something else at play, some other 'plan' underneath and behind whatever it is that's stated at face value, so this makes sense in that context.

Being in control isn't one directional, it's about every direction all at once, and when there's a built-in byproduct in some 'new rule' to guarantee even more control, they'll use it, exploit it, and look for another dozen offshoots to cement even more control.

Questa voce è stata modificata (3 settimane fa)
in reply to LumiWorx

@lumiworx correct. A squeezing, like from a python.

I have tried to tell people that walls keep people in just as effectively as they keep people out. Control is, as you say, the key.

in reply to BrianKrebs

Under the current administration, the US capacity, and downright craving, for self-harm seems infinite.
in reply to BrianKrebs

...this should only exist in as parody....we, USA, are a total, unqualified, disgraceful embarrassment. That Congress - esp the MAGA-Cowards - allow this to go on makes them profoundly guilty willful, intentional involvement in this coup. US reputation is destroyed internationally...US is besieged by an unrestrained murderous gang, all under control of obviously evil peple intent on the DESTRUCTION OF AMERICA. How else is any of this explainable?
in reply to Martin Bodlák 💙💛

@babaq
Do not claim China is like magaland, entry is easy people are friendly, travelling internally is also easy especially by train.

With exception of luxury restaurants and hotels costs are low.

There is absolutely no feeling of oppression despite cameras pretty much everywhere.

No masked gangs of thugs dragging people in to unmarked limousines in every town visited.

Yes there are problems but magaland is now land of the unfree no 1

in reply to BrianKrebs

No way I could comply as I use wildcard email addressed (and have hundreds of domains) meaning I literally use a different email address on every form and web site and have no way to know them all. I have also had allocated to me well over a million phone numbers (as part of a junk call thing) - I could probably get a list of those and see if I can blow up the ESTA web site perhaps. And I have no right to give other people's numbers to the US either - does anyone, legally?
in reply to RevK

@revk @briankrebs@infosec.exchange
the EU authorities announcing they will arrest anyone returning from FIFA2026 for breaching GDPR will be quite a thing
@RevK

RevK reshared this.

in reply to RevK

@revk Yeah I'm like you and have used hundreds of different email addresses, depending on context.

And in terms of family telephone numbers, what definition of family are they using, does this include spouse? Children? Siblings? Parents? Cousins? Niblings? I'm not certain I even have some of their phone numbers. What about if said family members are juvenile?

In terms of social media, what counts? Discord? Forums? What if my social media accounts (like FB and LI) is restricted, do I need to give them access to it?

Terrible idea.

@RevK
in reply to tautology

@tautology It is terrible, but there are people with no "social media", and whose phone is in fact a phone not a mobile computer. Would I even get an ESTA if I said I had no social media? And go me a dumb phone.
in reply to RevK

@tautology To be honest, if I *had* to go to US (like that would happen) it would be worth changing my name, getting a new passport in that uniquely rare name, and getting a totally dumb phone on a totally new number, and going as an "oldie" - or even not having a phone.
in reply to RevK

@revk If you're so lucky as to be able to change your name at all (to my limited understanding it does not even compare between DE and UK for example)
@RevK
in reply to wink

@wink In theory in UK my name is what I say it is.

I cannot find much definitive stuff on legally holding multiple concurrent names, but that does happen to some extent I think in UK.

We don't, in theory, have "legal name" as a concept in UK, but UK gov would love if we did, so some things sort of do.

@wink
in reply to RevK

@revk
Good luck explaing at the border that you have an infinite number of email addresses.
People just don't have any concept:
my email address is blobbycompany@clifford.ac. "Oh, do you work for us at blobbycompany?"
@RevK
in reply to RevK

@revk they want to keep anyone this tech savvy out of the country (or disappear them if they do come). Only conclusion I can make from this.
@RevK
in reply to BrianKrebs

I'm glad I had the chance to visit the United States when it was still open to tourists. Too bad it's closed now.
in reply to Em

I'm honestly sad that I will most likely never be able to visit New York City, which is the main place I would have loved to visit there.
in reply to BrianKrebs

If the EU were any use, it would protect my fucking Email from being handed over to the USA by any idiot family member who thinks it's an ok idea to travel to the USA. I'm sure they'll be fine with it.
in reply to BrianKrebs

I've said it once, I'll say it again. It is absolutely IRRESPONSIBLE to organize in-person events in the US that invite participants from abroad. it is materially unsafe. film festivals, conferences, sporting events, exhibits, book tours,...
Shut it down.
in reply to BrianKrebs

Whose going to remember all of that anyways? Seems like an excellent way to pick out people they want to harass and claim its because they lied. Presumably they already have this data thanks to big tech
in reply to Troy

@troy
"Whose going to remember all of that anyways?"

And who is going to check/verify any of this, and how?

@Troy
in reply to gnaddrig

@gnaddrig @troy shitty AI to summarise it...incorrectly of course. All those data centres aren't just for CSAM...
in reply to Lazarou Monkey Terror 🚀💙🌈

@Lazarou @troy
Makes sense, facts don't matter to these people. It's not about finding out facts about anything but to show everyone who is the hammer and who the nail ..