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MetaAI is currently the only game in town for WhatsApp users.

We've notified Meta of possible interim measures to reverse exclusion of third-party AI assistants from WhatsApp.

In Europe, dominant tech companies cannot be allowed to abuse their market power for unfair advantage.

ℹ️ link.europa.eu/MkBYfR

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in reply to European Commission

they can abuse their users with toxic and unregulated algorithms, disinformation, but not the market 😔
in reply to Iarlaiṫ

Hello @IarfhlaithO!
This particular post is about our competition rules, which do guarantee fair market conditions in the EU. However, under our Digital Services Act (DSA), companies like META are also obliged to offer users an opt-out from addictive algorithms, to address disinformation, and keep users safe. You can see which companies we are supervising under the DSA here: link.europa.eu/ngkJPH
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in reply to European Commission

thank you for the reply and I appreciate the context.

“Opt out” is not a solution when defaults dominate the user experience, and therefore shape our society most.

The social web is still a highly toxic, abusive and manipulative place. The EU isn’t ignoring the problems, but this has been festering for decades now and solutions don’t seem to be as proportionate or targetted as the problem.

in reply to European Commission

Hell yeah for European's god-given right to ALL the AI in their messaging apps!

(this is so stupid to bring up)

in reply to European Commission

the move should be to exclude *ALL* AI assistants from Whatsapp but the EU is unable to stand up to tech-billionaires
in reply to European Commission

Wouldn't it also be a great user choice to turn off AI completely? Why don't we have the right to do that?
in reply to European Commission

What about the right to completely DISABLE all ai assistants? Right now that's impossible, but I also have the right to NOT use them.
in reply to European Commission

what about the right to turn off AI? Shouldn't it be my right to control what my data is used for?
in reply to European Commission

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in reply to European Commission

Oh no, whatsapp users can only be tormented by one torment nexus! We need torment nexus neutrality posthaste! /s
in reply to European Commission

How about abuse of dominant position to make me install a product that I do not want? The problem is not that they are preventing european firms from selling crappy AI on whatsapp. The problem is that AI is crap OVERALL and that there is no way I can prevent Facebook from force-updating my application to make me install a product that I do not want to use.

Chatbots should be like cookies in that "bundling" of chatbot products unnecessary for core functionality should be disallowed

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in reply to European Commission

why not forcing free SMS and MMS to all ISP operating in the EU? Instant messaging was already there before Whatsapp
in reply to European Commission

Well done.

But more fool the people using WhatsApp when secure alternatives are available which don't collect and utilise users' data.

in reply to European Commission

Ma non pensate a sta roba! Questi ancora non sono del tutto interoperabili, dovete cazziarli su questo!
in reply to European Commission

how about less ai instead of a free for all

I demand the ability to remove ai agents from my things!

in reply to European Commission

And why don't make mandatory to be able to opt-out of having an "AI assistant"? Or even better: make it opt-in, disabled by default.
in reply to European Commission

then force also meta to allow third party clients for whatsapp, that way we can have whatsapp on sailfish os, native, and 3rd party apps that doesn't contains meta stuff...
in reply to European Commission

I'm not going to be using any AI assistant in *WhatsApp* out of all places 😭
in reply to European Commission

yes those poor OpenAI and Anthropic. Obviously you won't allow Chinese models like qwen because bullshit politics
in reply to European Commission

Missing the forest for the trees, I swear.
First step is to get rid of generative AI, as it is actively harming everyone and so wasteful it is speeding up the climate catastrophe. And also the moral and ethical issues.
As I said, first step is getting rid of it.
There's no second step.
in reply to European Commission

Europe needs better alternatives the issue then is getting people to swing over in the numbers required
in reply to European Commission

Remember when all those walled chat applications were supposed to be made interoperable? What happened to that?
in reply to European Commission

fucking force all (huge, walled garden) IM platforms to adopt open-IM standard so noone will be forced to use their crap (AI)

Fixing wrong problems here…

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in reply to European Commission

How about encouraging different eco systems, starting with signal, and pushing alternate phone roms, like e/OS/, or iodeOS, and I'm the same vein force banks to not rely on Google attestation (and as well your own age verification prototype).
Oh, wait. Chat control. Sorry, I forgot you needs surveillance of all of your citizens for some dark plans
in reply to European Commission

probably this is a bit stupid for the none technical people in decision in our EU commission. WhatsApp is not blocking anyone to register a "business account" and create an AI assistant that would provide chat based things like current Meta AI does. I am a developer that knows what you can develop on top of WhatsApp and I guarantee you that creating AI enabled WhatsApp accounts it is possible and easy. What do you say that Meta is blocking and not doing actually?
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in reply to European Commission

WhatsApp is a non-open source software through which the communications of more than 2 billion users pass. This should not exist. Only open source softwares can be trusted.
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