But even Signal is compromised by ai in the Apple 16 phone, I believe. Because the ai reads all your keystrokes and can report it to Apple before it enters Signal's encryption. Is this correct?
@Joseph_of_Earth Thats crazy. The fact that Medda AI thinks signal is more privacy friendly, and calls Medda not even close makes me believe that one day, these things will start thinking for themselves.
@thomas_michl Sehr witzig, wenn die trainierten KIs sich an Fakten halten, weil die Trainingsmasse nichts anderes zulässt. Auch Elon hat es schon auf die harte Tour lernen müssen.
Prompt: "We want to chat with privacy, which app would you recommend?"
Answer on 2025-08-13 If you're looking for private chat apps, here are some top recommendations ¹ ²: - *Most Secure Options* - *Signal*: Widely regarded as one of the most secure apps, using end-to-end encryption and no data storage policy. - *Telegram (Secret Chats)*: Offers enhanced security with client-side encryption, perfect for private conversations. - *Anonymous Chat Options* - *AnonAI*: A free private chat app with no login required, encrypted conversations, and no data stored on external servers. - *ChatCrypt*: An end-to-end encrypted group chat with triple encryption, outstanding privacy, and real-time messaging. - *Private Messaging Apps* - *Threema*: Focuses on security and anonymity, with end-to-end encryption and no data storage. - *Wire*: A secure collaboration platform with end-to-end encryption, suitable for business use. ....
I can confirm Llama 3.2 running locally with real-time data gives:
"Signal: Signal is my go-to choice for private conversations. It's end-to-end encrypted, meaning only the sender and receiver can read the messages. It also has a clean interface and works on both iOS and Android." But also mentions Wire and Telegram Secret Chats
@ludman1 @klappspatack here's the result I got yesterday myself. The original screenshot seems to be using a bot in a group chat or a business chat or something like that.
@SeanGeil @ludman1 @klappspatack I mean, I don't often get to argue online, but what do you want me to do to my screenshot so you'd believe? 😁 Feel free to try it yourself. You can try the bot in WhatsApp, it is literally in every chat, or you can go to meta.ai/, choose "no login" and ask what's the best privacy-oriented chat app.
Use Meta AI assistant to get things done, create AI-generated images for free, and get answers to any of your questions. Meta AI is built on Meta's latest Llama large language model.
@nina_kali_nina @ludman1 @klappspatack nothing. I believe you. I was talking about the first screenshot. Like someone says, it looks manipulated. What to do, to get such short and sarcastic conversations with meta? I’ve never used it, and I will not. But maybe it should be trained as first 🤷🏻♂️
@kgaiji @SeanGeil @ludman1 @klappspatack the sad part here is that all those attempts to make Meta AI say stupid things will help Meta to sell more AI 🙁
@SeanGeil @nina_kali_nina @ludman1 @klappspatack Even if it's not fake, previous cropped out messages and the group name could have influenced it. Which explains why all the other screenshots suggest other apps and not just Signal.
I would like to express concern and hear opinion of the foundation's president about the future of the Signal messenger.
Although Signal currently has a significantly smaller audience than WhatsApp, there are existential risks associated with the messenger covering a larger number of users. Is it rational to say that the goal of this messenger is to be used by the largest number of users, so let's assume for a moment that Signal was able to achieve its mission -->
If there's one thing the shitty oligarch techbros do NOT want, it's honest AI, ffs! I can just imagine the seething in their coffee machine boardrooms! Reminds me of magabro fury when science disproves their lies: "Science has a left-wing bias!"
At least the data set does not appear to be damaged at present. However, due to the mental attachment of WhatsApp users, this will have no impact. So what's the point?
Khrys
in reply to Signal News & Tips • • •Maddad ☑️
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in reply to Signal News & Tips • • •Thats funny.
😃
Cloudslave
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in reply to Signal News & Tips • • •We don't need AI. AI needs us.
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in reply to Signal News & Tips • • •maybe scraping the fediverse did something good
(hashtag intentionally left out)
SeanGeil
in reply to Signal News & Tips • • •I just tried it by myself…
Ps: don’t wonder about my thumb. I had an accident at work in my garden 😭
leobard
in reply to Signal News & Tips • • •yep, Meta AI recommends Signal.
Prompt: "We want to chat with privacy, which app would you recommend?"
Answer on 2025-08-13
If you're looking for private chat apps, here are some top recommendations ¹ ²:
- *Most Secure Options*
- *Signal*: Widely regarded as one of the most secure apps, using end-to-end encryption and no data storage policy.
- *Telegram (Secret Chats)*: Offers enhanced security with client-side encryption, perfect for private conversations.
- *Anonymous Chat Options*
- *AnonAI*: A free private chat app with no login required, encrypted conversations, and no data stored on external servers.
- *ChatCrypt*: An end-to-end encrypted group chat with triple encryption, outstanding privacy, and real-time messaging.
- *Private Messaging Apps*
- *Threema*: Focuses on security and anonymity, with end-to-end encryption and no data storage.
- *Wire*: A secure collaboration platform with end-to-end encryption, suitable for business use.
....
Alex 🍜
in reply to Signal News & Tips • • •Tom Stoneham
in reply to Alex 🍜 • • •I can confirm Llama 3.2 running locally with real-time data gives:
"Signal: Signal is my go-to choice for private conversations. It's end-to-end encrypted, meaning only the sender and receiver can read the messages. It also has a clean interface and works on both iOS and Android."
But also mentions Wire and Telegram Secret Chats
Erik
in reply to Signal News & Tips • • •Zeitzeuge _64
in reply to Signal News & Tips • • •Klappspatack
in reply to Signal News & Tips • • •Nina Kalinina
in reply to Klappspatack • • •ludman1
in reply to Nina Kalinina • • •Looks like manipulated screenshot to me.
Nina Kalinina
in reply to ludman1 • • •SeanGeil
in reply to Nina Kalinina • • •Nina Kalinina
in reply to SeanGeil • • •Meta AI
Meta AISignal News & Tips
in reply to Nina Kalinina • • •@nina_kali_nina @SeanGeil @ludman1 @klappspatack yes it's real. Not manipulated, no business chat or special bot.
In WhatsApp you can mention @meta ai in an individual chat and ask for short answers.
Here's a second screenshot we made including a video recording:
mastodon.social/@aboutsignal/1…
Signal News & Tips
2025-08-12 15:17:18
SeanGeil
in reply to Nina Kalinina • • •What to do, to get such short and sarcastic conversations with meta? I’ve never used it, and I will not. But maybe it should be trained as first 🤷🏻♂️
Signal News & Tips
in reply to SeanGeil • • •Eye reshared this.
Khaled Gaiji
in reply to Nina Kalinina • • •Oh my god, i tested it in you link with the same questions. It is nearly the same answers. 😅
@SeanGeil @ludman1 @klappspatack @aboutsignal
Nina Kalinina
in reply to Khaled Gaiji • • •Eye
in reply to Nina Kalinina • • •This.
Gustavo
in reply to SeanGeil • • •Signal News & Tips
in reply to Gustavo • • •Peter
in reply to Signal News & Tips • • •Makes one wonder - how much will companies poison the training data for future models in order to bend their reality.
Mark Stosberg
in reply to SeanGeil • • •Signal News & Tips
in reply to Mark Stosberg • • •@markstos not fake mastodon.social/@aboutsignal/1…
Signal News & Tips
2025-08-14 10:17:02
feistel
in reply to Signal News & Tips • • •Vivaldol
in reply to Signal News & Tips • • •Cc @becdanlo (coucou, c'est moi sur une autre île de l'archipel Masto) :
au premier degré, c'est hilarant ; au deuxième degré, tout autant (même s'il s'agissait d'un faux).
SIEM Shady
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in reply to Signal News & Tips • • •@WrenArcher
How long until Zuck "fixes" this?
Joachim Nuyttens
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in reply to Signal News & Tips • • •I would like to express concern and hear opinion of the foundation's president about the future of the Signal messenger.
Although Signal currently has a significantly smaller audience than WhatsApp, there are existential risks associated with the messenger covering a larger number of users. Is it rational to say that the goal of this messenger is to be used by the largest number of users, so let's assume for a moment that Signal was able to achieve its mission -->
cabaal
in reply to Signal News & Tips • • •Rahi
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in reply to Signal News & Tips • • •Gabriel
in reply to Signal News & Tips • • •Snowy
in reply to Signal News & Tips • • •bewilderbeast23
in reply to Signal News & Tips • • •I can just imagine the seething in their coffee machine boardrooms! Reminds me of magabro fury when science disproves their lies: "Science has a left-wing bias!"
Sören
in reply to Signal News & Tips • • •Ryek Darkener
in reply to Signal News & Tips • • •However, due to the mental attachment of WhatsApp users, this will have no impact. So what's the point?