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Allan Haverholm

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Allan Haverholm
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So, given WP is willing to sell all its users down the river for some quick "AI" buzz, what fedi-enabled alternatives exist for human-centric websites? therepository.email/wordpress-…

I know of write.as, plume. They're too ascetic to match the brief. ClassicPress could be an option, provided the WP-ActivityPub add-on works with that.

#wordpress #ActivityPub #CMS #noAI #fediverse
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#wordpress #activitypub #fediverse #cms #noai @David Gerard

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zygmyd

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Write HTML. HTML is still there. You don't need anything other than HTML to get started for a link-clicky formatted website.

Heck, you could even upload .txt files and use direct urls if you felt like it.

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Oblomov

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@zygmyd fedi-enabling plain HTML is nontrivial

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julian

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Re: So, given WP is willing to sell all its users down the river for some quick "AI" buzz, what fedi-enabled alternatives exist for human-centric websites?

@haverholm@radikal.social how about Ghost?

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Allan Haverholm

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@julian Could be. How far along is their fediverse implementation?

Also, do you have experience migrating large-ish sites from one to the other? Because I'm involved with one group blog that would need to have 15 years or so worth of posts and podcast series moved from an ancient WP install...

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Allan Haverholm

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@julian Oh, ho ho. That's right, I forget we can't have nice things: lemmy.zip/comment/23379174

(Tldr, Ghost is being coded with Claude)

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2025-12-16 21:49:06

Looks like they are still pushing changes and the last release was 4 days ago.
They also seems to be leaning into LLM coding (AGENTS.md, CLAUDE.md) which is a security vulnerability as far as I'm concerned.

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^GitHub

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morph

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@julian
Hubzilla is an option, too.

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Allan Haverholm

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@morph @julian My first reaction is that Hubzilla is more slanted toward the federation part than the blog and site building focus of WP, but actually — that's not a drawback. Yeah, I'll have to give it a try.

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morph

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@julian
It's indeed usable as CMS. There's of course not that supply of themes and fancy stuff like for WP.

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Allan Haverholm

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@morph TBF most of the WP themes are bloated frameworks anyway. @julian

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morph

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@julian
I saw some amazing sites people have built on their Hubs.

BTW ... what is the magic that this thread is located in the activitypub.space #nodebb forum? Didn't the conversation start with a common Mastodon post?

#nodebb @julian

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Allan Haverholm

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@morph Re: magic sauce — I think it's as simple as me using the ActivityPub hashtag in the original mastodon post? I can't say for certain, just a guess.

Or maybe @julian commenting pulled in the thread? Federation, guys. It's weird and wonderful.

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morph

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@julian
Indeed it is. Viva La Föderation! 🖖🏻

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Allan Haverholm

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@morph I hadn't even seen the forum post version until you mentioned it. Below my toot it says "[#]activitypub shared this topic about _ hours ago", so I suppose it is in fact an automated, hashtag based aggregation? @julian

A screenshot of my starting WP/"AI" toot as it appears on the ActivityPub.space forum.

Just before the comments is the text "#activitypub shared this topic about 17 hours ago"

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Allan Haverholm

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@morph @julian They haven't federated my edit to the post, though. Now I will always be remembered as the guy who can't tell "to" from "too" 🤣

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julian

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Re: So, given WP is willing to sell all its users down the river for some quick "AI" buzz, what fedi-enabled alternatives exist for human-centric websites?

@haverholm@radikal.social @morph@morphnet.de heheh yes you're looking at NodeBB, a forum that speaks ActivityPub!

It pulled in your thread because you used the ActivityPub hashtag. 🙂

It didn't get your update because I don't follow you 🥲

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Allan Haverholm

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@julian I knew vaguely of the NodeBB AP implementationer, thanks for the reminder 🙂 And the follow issue was easily fixed! @morph

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morph

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@julian One thing confuses me a bit. Registration for NodeBB works just locally (with Email, Github, Google etc.) and creates a new AP handle, right? Not by use of your existing one. That's just in use by following the forums' categories.
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julian

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Re: So, given WP is willing to sell all its users down the river for some quick "AI" buzz, what fedi-enabled alternatives exist for human-centric websites?

@morph@morphnet.de yes that's correct, you create a new local account.

Use of your existing fedi handle is not quite available yet. Requires R&D and implementation from other software, so it's a much bigger lift.

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@julian I saw there exists a YunoHost package and of course now I want to run a node. I just have to figure out my ressources. They say it eats up to 1.5GB RAM.

But won't that be much lower with the very few people on board which are to expect? Or will nodebb reserve the memory?

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julian

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Re: So, given WP is willing to sell all its users down the river for some quick "AI" buzz, what fedi-enabled alternatives exist for human-centric websites?

@morph@morphnet.de NodeBB doesn't require much memory at all. It does need maybe 1gb to build static resources.

Running it itself shouldn't need more than 500mb.

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morph

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@julian That sounds good. Thanks for the info. I think I'll install NodeBB soon, and also Mitra. I got even an idea for a use case. Well ... and a potential community of 3-4 people. 😁
And of course thanks a lot for your fascinating project and competent work for the Open Social Web at all. Ehm ... I'm not so good in compliments.

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P Segal

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I'm glad you asked because I was wondering the same thing. Yesterday I posted about how infuriating it was to spend hours doing normal tasks and after I finally got a blog post up, Wordpress sent me a questionnaire asking how they could improve it. I told them to get rid of AI and read Ed Zitron and Cory Doctorow. Or I suggested they offer the old non-AI version as a option. Here's something I wrote about AI:
proustsaidthat.blog/2025/05/11the-microsoft-doom-loop/

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Allan Haverholm

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@nspsegal I think there's a slash missing in your URL: proustsaidthat.blog/2025/05/11… Giving it a read now.

The Microsoft Doom Loop

Somewhere in storage, 35 years of my writing in Microsoft Word lies dormant on floppy disks, CDs, and other tech improvements that have made access to a career’s worth of work virtually impossible.…

^{Proust Said That}

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P Segal

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Apologies for the typo. The weird thing is that lately I haven't been able to cut and paste things between one site and another. I don't know what that's about.

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Allan Haverholm

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@nspsegal No worries, I found it easily enough.

I've had similar issues copy/pasting recently. Don't know if it's some security sandboxing of the clipboard that's acting up?

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Allan Haverholm

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@nspsegal Not a bad piece. I try to avoid Microsoft as much as possible, but they deliver infrastructure for my day job. It has been so depressing to follow how they just forced Copilot on *their paying customers*.

Suddenly the entire educational institution has implemented guidelines and advice on how students and staff can use "AI" in their work. Not guidelines *against* it, because it has been normalised through the software the workplace provides.

AI is Destroying the University and Learning Itself

Students use AI to write papers, professors use AI to grade them, degrees become meaningless, and tech companies make fortunes. Welcome to the death of higher education.

^{Ronald Purser (Current Affairs Inc)}

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