No, the UK’s Online Safety Act Doesn’t Make Children Safer Online
No, the UK’s Online Safety Act Doesn’t Make Children Safer Online
Young people should be able to access information, speak to each other and to the world, play games, and express themselves online without the government making decisions about what speech is permissible.Electronic Frontier Foundation
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The AI age is the "age of no consent"
The AI age is the "age of no consent"
"Inevitability" means design decisions are no longer informed by user needs; now they are unilaterally imposed. The users are the ones being designed.The Product Picnic
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Amazon is considering shoving ads into Alexa+ conversations
Amazon is considering shoving ads into Alexa+ conversations
Amazon has failed to make Alexa profitable thus far.Scharon Harding (Ars Technica)
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UK Plans AI Experiment on Children Seeking Asylum
Experimenting with unproven technology to determine whether a child should be granted protections they desperately need and are legally entitled to is cruel and unconscionable.
UK Plans AI Experiment on Children Seeking Asylum
The United Kingdom’s announcement on July 22 that it would use AI face-scanning technology to evaluate whether an asylum seeker is under age 18 threatens to harm children seeking refuge.Human Rights Watch
Do you condemn Israel?
For years, the Democratic Party has litmus-tested candidates by asking if they disavow Hamas. Now, could the opposite become the norm?
DOJ Drops Antitrust Case Against Company Represented by Bondi’s Former Employer
The decision to drop the case comes days after the Justice Department fired two of its top antitrust officials.
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24 Senators Vote for Sanders Resolution to Stop Bombs Sale to Israel
Forty Democrats signed a letter expressing alarm over starvation in Gaza this week — but only 27 voted to withhold arms.
Jan. 6 Conspiracy Theorist Who Likened BLM to Terrorists to Lead Counterterrorism Center
The Senate confirmed Joe Kent as director of the National Counterterrorism Center in a 52 to 44 vote.
Trump’s Executive Order Criminalizing Houselessness Reveals a Familiar Dystopia
For years, mad and disabled people have been asking Americans to fight the criminalization of disability. Will they?
Alaska Ignored Warning Signs of a Budget Crisis. Now It Doesn’t Have Funding to Fix Crumbling Schools.
Lawmakers only budgeted $40 million of the nearly $800 million that districts say is needed to fix and maintain schools to keep them safe and operating. Gov. Mike Dunleavy then vetoed more than two-thirds of that.
ICE plans to build more tent jails for immigrants. What could go wrong?
A brief recent history of "soft-sided" facilities and their many faults.
Elon Musk has turned off many liberals to electric vehicles—and not just Teslas
Disgust over his political antics has cast a pall over the EV industry.
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Il “caveau” dei vitigni rari: G.R.A.S.P.O. custodisce la memoria genetica del vino
> Non si tratta solo di produrre vino, ma anche di preservare i vitigni che lo rendono unico. La tutela delle varietà storiche è parte integrante del lavoro di Graspo, che oggi gestisce tre campi di conservazione. Questa visita è un’anteprima di quel patrimonio.
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Il "caveau" dei vitigni rari: G.R.A.S.P.O. custodisce la memoria genetica del vino
Non si tratta solo di produrre vino, ma anche di preservare i vitigni che lo rendono unico. La tutela delle varietà storiche è parte integrante del lavoro di Graspo, che oggi gestisce tre campi di conservazione.Qdpnews
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How To Run Deepseek R1 671b Fully Locally On a $2000 EPYC Server
https://digitalspaceport.com/how-to-run-deepseek-r1-671b-fully-locally-on-2000-epyc-rig/
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512GB 2400 ECC RAM $400
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A Premium Luggage Service’s Web Bugs Exposed the Travel Plans of Every User—Including Diplomats
Security flaws in Airportr, a door-to-door luggage checking service used by 10 airlines, let hackers access user data and even gain privileges that would have let them redirect or steal luggage.
https://www.wired.com/story/luggage-service-web-bugs-exposed-travel-plans-users-diplomats-airportr/
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Magnus Carlsen says chess is ‘made for the digital age’ amid esports integration
Magnus Carlsen says chess is ‘made for the digital age’ amid esports integration
The world of chess has been going through somewhat of an evolution in recent years, and it’s showing no signs of slowing down.Ben Church (CNN)
Microsoft bans LibreOffice developer's account without warning, rejects appeal
Microsoft bans LibreOffice developer's account without warning, rejects appeal
A LibreOffice developer has shared his experience of having his Microsoft account banned, and how the company has been uncooperative in helping him recover it.David Uzondu (Neowin)
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Microsoft is killing off Windows 11 SE, its Chrome OS competitor
Microsoft is killing off Windows 11 SE, its Chrome OS competitor
Microsoft is ending support for Windows 11 SE in October 2026. The OS was designed to compete with Chrome OS originally.Tom Warren (The Verge)
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UK Plans AI Experiment on Children Seeking Asylum
Experimenting with unproven technology to determine whether a child should be granted protections they desperately need and are legally entitled to is cruel and unconscionable.
UK Plans AI Experiment on Children Seeking Asylum
The United Kingdom’s announcement on July 22 that it would use AI face-scanning technology to evaluate whether an asylum seeker is under age 18 threatens to harm children seeking refuge.Human Rights Watch
17 family members of notorious cartel leader enter U.S. in deal with Trump administration, Mexico says
Ovidio Guzman Lopez is one of the brothers left running a faction of the Sinaloa Cartel after notorious capo "El Chapo" was imprisoned in the U.S.
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German armed forces see 28% surge in recruits in NATO defence boost
Germany's armed forces reported a 28% surge in soldier recruits from January to late July, compared with the same period last year, bolstering plans to boost NATO defences in response to what it sees as an increased threat from Russia.
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Indian state refiners pause Russian oil purchases, sources say amid Trump’s tariffs
Indian state refiners halt Russian oil purchases amid Trump warnings, turning to Middle Eastern and West African grades.
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Ethiopia | Mass rape, forced pregnancy and sexual torture in Tigray amount to crimes against humanity – report
Content Warning: this article contains graphic and distressing testimony and images.
Research documents ‘horrific and extreme’ attacks by Ethiopian and Eritrean forces and warns that impunity has meant such atrocities are expanding to new regions
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N. Korea secretly buries Ukraine war dead alongside Korean war heroes
When North Korea honored fallen Korean War heroes at a Victory Day ceremony last week.
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Nicaragua recognizes Russian control over occupied Ukrainian territories in letter to Putin
The government of Nicaragua recognizes the temporarily occupied territories of the Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporizhzhia, and Kherson regions as part of Russia.
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Canada 'disappointed' by Trump boosting tariffs to 35%, says Carney
Prime minister says 'historic investments' have been made into border security as Trump raises fentanyl again
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Amid Trump’s tariff shock, India informs US it won’t purchase F-35 fighter jets
The decision comes amid growing uncertainty in U.S.-India trade ties. Trump’s abrupt announcement of a 25% tariff on Indian goods—set to take effect August 7—has caught Indian officials off guard.
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Switzerland Slammed With 39% Tariff Rate in US Trade Blitz
(Bloomberg) -- Donald Trump will impose a 39% tariff on imports from Switzerland, one of the steepest levies globally which threaten to leave the country’s key exports reeling.
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Swedish jihadist jailed for life over IS murder of Jordanian pilot in Syria
The killing of Lt Moaz al-Kasasbeh by the Islamic State group was shown in a grim video circulated online in 2015.
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Russian cyberspies hit embassies in Moscow, Microsoft reports
The group is using an "adversary-in-the-middle" technique to deploy its custom "ApolloShadow" malware for intelligence collection. This campaign, active since at least 2024, poses a high risk to diplomatic entities and sensitive organizations in Moscow, particularly those relying on local internet providers.
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Trump threatens Russia’s ‘failed former president’ Medvedev
“He’s entering very dangerous territory!” the U.S. president warned on social media.
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Two-year-old among 28 dead in Thursday's Russian attack on Kyiv
A two-year-old child was found dead in the rubble after Thursday's sweeping Russian drone and missile attack on Kyiv, Ukraine's prime minister said on Friday, taking the death toll to 28, with over 150 wounded.
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Palantir gets $10 billion contract from U.S. Army
The award covering the next decade is one of the largest DoD contracts ever, cementing the tech firm’s role in warfighting for years to come.
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UK | Heathrow unveils £49 bn expansion plan for third runway
London's Heathrow Airport on Friday unveiled a £49-billion ($65 billion) expansion plan, including the costs of building a long-awaited third runway, approved by the UK government after years of legal wrangling.
Google loses US appeal over app store reforms in Epic Games case
cross-posted from: sopuli.xyz/post/31306913
Alphabet’s Google on Thursday failed to persuade a U.S. appeals panel to overturn a jury verdict and federal court order requiring the technology company to revamp its app store Play.
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evan@cosocial.ca fielding some real hardballs in this question session!
Topics have touched on protocol wars, blockchain, and authoritarian regimes 😬
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in reply to Anuj Ahooja • • •personally i find that interop can lead to worse UX if you have to compromise on your own experience to be compatible with someone else's assumptions. so improving UX might require explicitly breaking interop.
more generally, UX friction can be good, and good UX doesn't imply that the thing is good. putting decentralization first means you emphasize values -- do it right before you do it well. putting interop first means you defer the value judgement.
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j12t@j12t.social "now I realize I am standing between you and Lunch"
Poor Johannes, at FOSDEM he was standing between us and dinner, too.
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chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca talking about starting up SocialBC is inspiring!
Makes me wonder if something like this could happen in Ontario... esp. rural communities.
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boris@cosocial.ca giving us ATProto 101.
Good, I have no idea what any of this is.
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The number of interesting apps and services running off BlueSky is staggering.
Just. What.
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dansup@mastodon.social is on stage now!
Day 2 of FediCon begins...
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Am loving how benpate@mastodon.social is focusing on getting creators onto the fediverse. Important work to cross that chasm!
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dawn@cosocial.ca presenting an interesting history of how coop@cosocial.ca came to be.
I love how both we have representation from both CoSocial.ca and SocialBC!
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dawn@cosocial.ca makes the point that it's important that cosocial members buy at least the share into the coop so as to have a stake in the coop itself.
It's more of a commitment than just filling in a form.
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johannab@cosocial.ca on Digital Third Spaces!
Back in the day forums were that digital third space. Social media took that over and they've dropped the ball.
Let's bring them back (with more forums obviously)
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Someone's got Mastodon open on their device with sound on and it keeps dinging, and I'm having a Pavlovian urge to check my phone.
I don't even use the Mastodon web app wth
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Congrats chad@mstdn.ca for winning the FediCon swag competition. Move over stickers here's a MUG.
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in reply to John Francis 🦫🇨🇦🍁💪⬆️ • • •what a damn good looking mug!!
I think the “Moosetodon Movement” means more than just mstdn.ca, further solidified at #FediCon; a movement country wide to kick the Zuckerverse to the curb.
We still have a lot of work to do but I believe our small but mighty community is working toward that common goal.
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in reply to Greg • • •Yes 💯
On the Fediverse, the hard part is connecting the payment to the payment to the IP that you're purchasing. It means adding in a whole layer of identity and permissions that probably don't exist on most servers.
I believe sub.club managed this with a private "invite only" Mastodon feed, but we can go more granular than that.
I have a prototype working with #Emissary and Bandwagon.fm, and we'll need this tech on many more platforms to make a real difference.
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in reply to Greg • • •Regardless of the payment method, it’s still extra work to figure out who has paid for which content, and most Fediverse servers don’t have this in place yet, so crypto wouldn’t solve that part of the puzzle.
Separate from that, I’m pretty down on crypto - specifically because it seems like an end run around having a well-regulated banking system.
But I’m willing to be open; is there a good reason to look into crypto payments BEFORE direct bank transfers?
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in reply to Ben Pate 🤘🏻 • • •maybe #GNU_Taler can simplify transfers of assets, including fiat currencies. But isn't that orthogonal to messaging and #ActivityPub?
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in reply to Marcus Rohrmoser 🌻 • • •Yes. I'm looking into Taler and Interleger (Open Payments) for direct fiat currency transfer.
And yes, payments are *very* different from how (most of) the Fediverse works right now.
There was an service called sub.club ~ which unfortunately shut down recently ~ that was experimenting with charging money for access to premium newsfeeds.
I'm doing that now with #Emissary, along with letting bands sell albums over Bandwagon.fm
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in reply to Ben Pate 🤘🏻 • • •That was the main point of my presentation at #Fedicon2025, that:
1. We need a real payment infrastructure here on the Fediverse.
2. We need to do it well, to avoid the (numerous) sins of the past.
3. I'm doing that right now, PLEASE HELP ME OMG.
I can't wait until the videos are up, then I can just link to that presentation a thousand times, because I laid out my entire life's purpose in it.
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Evan Prodromou
in reply to Eugen Rochko • • •I can't speak for Julian, but I can talk about my impressions from @boris 's presentation.
He went through a dozen different apps running on the ATProto network that create custom data types and interactions and distribute them through the network. It's all happening on the client side, so these new apps aren't their own PDS servers; they can concentrate on cool client experience and leave the distribution up to the back end.
This is almost exactly parallel to the ActivityPub API. It was cool seeing recipes, check-ins, images, events all being created and managed by server less web clients.
It definitely reenergized me for focusing on the ActivityPub API.
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in reply to Eugen Rochko • • •i can't really speak for anyone here as a relative outsider, but as someone that has worked with both protocols i think one big reason is the lack of a public, accessible, synchronous space for discussion, development, and support
the unofficial discord linked in that slide tends to be fairly active - i've managed to receive answers to most of my atproto-related questions there, and as a result i've been able to get stuff done relatively quickly. whenever i've had issues with activitypub projects in the past, i've just sat on them for long periods of time because i wasn't sure where to ask about them (and i never really got much response from posts i made on the network about them either)
i see socialhub as a great place for asynchronous, more formal happenings, but there's not much for more casual happenings right now afaict (though i'd love to be proven wrong in this regard!)
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in reply to Essem • • •as someone who's also on the outside looking in, I kind of have to concur here. nobody's really having fun. even on socialhub, all I really see is just the same few people people getting really pedantic and argumentative over implementation details and whether rdf is good and where the bike shed for the nuclear reactor should be built. contrast atproto, where people can just be like "I built a toilet social network because it's funny."
I think that activitypub sorely needs more creativity and experimentation and people pushing the protocol in ways that are super unexpected, as well as having developers welcome new people on board and helping them get up to speed (and the casual discussion space that essem mentioned). doing this will probably bring a lot of much needed diversity and progress to the space imo
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eblu@wetdry.world said in Fedicon Livestream:
> even on socialhub, all I really see is just the same few people people getting really pedantic and argumentative over implementation details and whether rdf is good and where the bike shed for the nuclear reactor should be built. contrast atproto, where people can just be like "I built a toilet social network because it's funny."
I'd love to put some of my creative and cat-herding energies toward developing an implementor-first place for AP developer support. I often make the claim that AP-related discussion should take place over ActivityPub, so I'd love to put that into practice.
I'm not a chat-first person, so Discord isn't my first option, but there are other options...!
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in reply to julian • • •julian:
Come help us with the reboot of SocialHub, this is and has always been the vision. I'm 100% on board with making SH more fun! I am after all a member of fediverse.party, and the creator of the Freudian Typo of the Week : P. How about some new categories specifically for new implementers to compare notes, or for things like novelty implementations? We're totally open to ideas.
johannab:
It's hard to know what to make of this in the absence of definitions of each. From context, I'm guessing that for you Social Media = Datafarming corporate platforms, yes? How would you define Social Networks?
I tend to use both terms in their original usages (circa early 2000s). Where "social media" is open publishing with comments (blogging, vlogging, code forges with built-in bug tracking etc), so anyone can publish media and get rapid feedback. While "social network" covers any tool that enables regular interactions between people who know each other, 1:1 or in bounded groups (email, IM, group chat, web forums, link-sharing, etc).
By those definitions the current fediverse is a mixture of both. It's heavily weighted towards social media, but there's a lot of work being done to extend AP (in FRPs and SocialCG taskforces and elsewhere) so it can offer more social networking features.
To be clear, we don't disagree here, I'm just slicing the onion on a different angle
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in reply to Danyl Strype • • •strypey:
I recentely tooted my definitions. Maybe they are useful to others:
In any case social media are but a small subset of social networking against these definitions.
just small circles 🕊
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in reply to Arnold Schrijver • • •Interesting. I usually see social networking defined as a subset of social media. The definition of a social network site that's usually referenced is from danah boyd and Nicole Ellison's 2007 paper on Social Network Sites: Definition, History, and Scholarship:
By this definition, email, blogs without blogrolls, Signal (where I can't view or traverse others lists of connections) are all examples of social media, but not social networks.
boyd and ellison also talk about the rise of social network sites, including noting that several well-known examples started as non-networked social media:
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in reply to Jon P • • •jdp23:
I am using these definitions in the context of social experience design, which starts looking at social networking solutions at a personal perspective. Here a person's 'social experience' starts when they wake up in the morning and social activities start to stream into their senses. I.e. it starts in the real world, offline, where technology fulfills only a supportive role in connecting people and social interactions.
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Jon P said in Fedicon Livestream:
> nteresting. I usually see social networking defined as a subset of social media.
Indeed. This is how it's often used in the social sciences that study online activity. Social Networking Sites are sites like Facebook, that require account following, or even bidirectional follows, while "social media" is everything from BBSes to forums to blogs with comment sections to, well, Social Networking Sites.
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in reply to julian • • •@julian Quick, we need a new Forkey: Moosekey!
(Or does anyone have a better pun at hand?)
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