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Fediverse is still the most lively social network I have ever used, since MySpace in 2003. It is better than Twitter or any commercial social media platform ever was. Absolutely love being here.

The most profound thing about it is the international coverage. After the first wave of enshittification in 2010, algorithms took over, and suddenly as a polyglot I was labeled as Finnish. No more visible international posts, people only saw the Finnish ones.

I've noticed the same effect in commercial AI. It ignores the fact that I use English online 99% of the time and still replies to me in Finnish despite all instructions. Algorithms and AI label you. They assign you a language, a status, a certain type of person. There's no changing that.

The Fediverse and Mastodon are delightfully mine, yours, and truly open source - respecting privacy. Nobody's machine can tell you, "You are this, and this is why we do that."

Fuck labelers and the fog machines. Let me be me. Here, on my own server, I can embrace my weirdness and post however I want, how often I want, whenever I want, in whatever language I choose - without constantly worrying about how my identity will be perceived by a machine.

#SocialMedia #Mastodon #Fediverse

in reply to Roni Rolle Laukkarinen

There’s a big benefit working in software design when you come from a small country. We’re far more aware of the nuances of language, identity politics, cultural differences etc.
in reply to Roni Rolle Laukkarinen

I find there is little organic interaction here.

The big servers are all as fake as regular social media.

So we can enjoy posting into the void.

in reply to monarchist

@monarchist You mean little organic integration in the Fediverse? That is objectively false. Here following and being followed matters more. Follow 100x more and we'll talk.
in reply to Roni Rolle Laukkarinen

Yes, I mean there is very little organic interaction here. It has the same hugbox problem Bluesky does on the big servers, and on the littler servers, other than hellthreads not much happens.

It's posting into the void.

in reply to monarchist

@monarchist Compeltely disagree. Did you read what I posted? Fediverse is the MOST lively social network I have ever used. Thousands of interactions every day.

Try following 7000 and you see the difference. It's NOT posting into the void.

in reply to Roni Rolle Laukkarinen

True True. Most of my interactions are organic. Also, this notion that the Fedi is cats, tech and politics is wrong, also. I just organically found a post and shared about tar sands because someone organically found my post about using Lotus 123 in high school in the 1980s and I took a peak at their profile when they interacted.

@monarchist

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in reply to Roni Rolle Laukkarinen

If this is the void then the void seems to me as a bustling busy place where I have met interesting or intelligent or silly or kind texted voices, or interesting and intelligent and silly and kind texted voices. Maybe my perception differs because I am not seeking reactions to my own words and I am instead seeking only interesting thoughts from this void.
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in reply to Roni Rolle Laukkarinen

@Roni Laukkarinen @monarchist ora ho aperto questa pagina senza traduttore. Mi ricordo Facebook nel 2014 2015 una dittatura mediatica. Io uso pochissimo i social ora provo questo vedremo
in reply to Roni Rolle Laukkarinen

I ended up blocking that guy after he told me he thinks every Latino in the USA should be deported. He sounds reasonable, but he's not.
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in reply to Roni Rolle Laukkarinen

@monarchist it's not even a void if you don't follow a ton of people/hashtags. I used to "scream into the void" all the time on Twitter and get a predictable lack of response. When I do it here I get likes and occasional boosts.
in reply to Roni Rolle Laukkarinen

I would even go as far and wouldn't call "commerical social media" social media but commericial media.
in reply to Roni Rolle Laukkarinen

I get similar but from the other side, I try to read something every day in a language other than English but commercial networks rarely send me content in the other languages I understand (even if I declare them), which would only make sense if their priority is to deliver adverts and sponsored posts (especially in a country blighted by Brexit, where its now harder to trade with the rest of Europe)
in reply to Roni Rolle Laukkarinen

lack of algorithm gives back the power to the user. Yes, you need to work on it now. But you get the feed you choose, not the one fed to you by some pre-conceived notion of who you are and what you want.
in reply to Roni Rolle Laukkarinen

I actually used myspace way back and since one of the things I posted was music, it's still there. Doesn't seem to actually play though.

myspace.com/roadkilltaxidermy/…

The picture of my ass as I'm climbing into my jeep is also gone.

People used to post whole essays there. It was great. Had my life threatened for pointing out someone's blatant and superfluous plagiarism. Everyone wanted to be a twit though so it died.

Tom's doing great though I hear.

in reply to crazyeddie

@crazyeddie Nothing is there any more... my old profile: myspace.com/ellor
in reply to Roni Rolle Laukkarinen

It sucks. I don't think I have a copy of that anymore and it's the only thing I ever made that I called "complete".
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Roni Rolle Laukkarinen
@FM112EU This is false. It is very much social indeed.
in reply to Roni Rolle Laukkarinen

there were no language filters in the early Internet and it was better thanks to that
in reply to Roni Rolle Laukkarinen

Algorithms and AI are worsening the political and cultural divides of all nations.

Republicans, and other far right voters, are stuck in an information bubble starting with Fox News and then Twitter and now Truth Social.

Algorithms & AI are deepening that divide with the help of Russian bots and Koch Network PR manipulation.

Mastodon actively supports a broader access to information.

It's like walking down the aisles of a wonderful book store or public library.

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in reply to Nicole Parsons

@Npars01
mostly. conservatives get treated in ways we'd never tolerate for others here and on bluesky. or they quickly get blocked here when people could just not follow or mute them. thus few try it out.

(not referring to the obvious trolls who need to be reported)

in reply to william.maggos

@wjmaggos
Conservatives get blocked because they espouse views actively divorced from reality, facts, and decency.

Even their purported views like land trusts for preserving species diversity for hunting & fishing have been discarded.

They want to drill for oil on every bit of public lands including national parks.

in reply to Nicole Parsons

@Npars01
but like somebody posting dumb shit on their blog back in the day, they can post it and nobody need see it. we didn't need to try to push them off the web or stop browsers from accessing their sites. we don't need to push them off fedi.

as long as we police for unwanted mentions and we remain algo free, we should all be able to coexist. as much as people might stumble on their stuff and go right, they might stumble on ours and go left. and we have the better info/arguments.

in reply to william.maggos

There can be no mutual coexistence with Nazis.

They don't believe in it.

The billionaires behind the GOP are funding the erasure of billions of people.

1 billion alone will die from famine by the end of the century.

1.2 billion climate refugees.

They activately funded herd immunity narratives & antivaxxers that killed over 1.7 million Americans.

They are prepared to go to war for their fossil fuel agenda.

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in reply to Nicole Parsons

@Npars01
they don't but they exist in our world and always have, so we're doing it all the time. we just don't let them do the bad things. letting them be on fedi without bothering people is just like letting them have blogs that they email around (now boost).

and most people have conservative (not Nazi) friends/family that would be shouted down here if they honestly expressed their opinions. so of course they stay on big tech and get pushed further right. we need to change that.

in reply to william.maggos

@wjmaggos @Npars01 Show me a conservative idea not based on racism, homophobia, xenophobia or lack of care for the planet. I'll wait.

I don't want to speak or hear anyone with those views honestly. If I wanted, I have a whole side of the family who's still very much pro-Franco.

in reply to Johns

@Johns_priv @Npars01
I am not arguing for conservative views.

but should that part of your family get blocked and bombarded with mean replies (in a way we'd never tolerate towards lefties here) for joining the fedi and honestly expressing their opinions?

[I am not saying you need to follow them or that they should be allowed to bother others here. see how we let people browse to any site vs how we have email spam blocking programs.]

isn't it worse to have your family get Xed etc...

in reply to william.maggos

I'm not advocating for pre-emptive bans of conservative voices. I ban liars. I ban people who are actively working to kill others.

I do not advocate for bans on lurkers while they learn another's POV.

Conservatives exist but don't want others to do the same. They have an agenda of dominance & imposing their desires on the unwilling.

They are sabotaging the votes of others, undermining the rights of others, abusing the law to hurt others, forcing their religion on others.

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in reply to Nicole Parsons

@Npars01
so all conservatives are not liars and want to kill and many other things you wrote, right? but they'd all get treated bad here, right? shouldn't that not be so?

but the ones that do want to do all the things you wrote (that we're not already going after for being illegal), I don't get how we can say they should be allowed on the net but harassed/blocked off fedi.

as @mhanson101 says, there should also be spaces with any limits people want. just not fedi or the web imho.

in reply to william.maggos

@wjmaggos @Npars01 My blocking any person or instance does nothing to their ability to be on the fediverse.

There is nothing I post, from my experience within my own extended family, that will intrigue or turn them. My posts are the fuel they crave to feed their righteous anger.

I’m not going to participate in any of that.

in reply to TomasHradcky

I generally agree. I think blocking is ruder and unnecessary compared to muting, but sure.

the problem would be if bigger servers do this to most conservatives, or too many servers do this.

and I think letting harassment fly towards conservatives but not progressives, is also a problem. I see that on bluesky mostly. we're not big enough or interesting to bigger name conservatives yet probably.

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in reply to Nicole Parsons

@Npars01 Information bubbles are also affecting people who see themselves as "left" or "progressive", but not in the way the narrative says.

The problem is not that these folks are stuck in bubbles with other people like them who largely have reasonable beliefs and goals and shared facts-based reality.

The problem is that they're stuck in bubbles shaped by their/our enemies who run the platforms they're using and make it so you can get a feel-good rush by dunking on nazis and blue-maga in ways that actually amplify their reach and impede imagination of a better world.

in reply to Roni Rolle Laukkarinen

Living in another country has the whole internet confused because I'm Dutch, but my location is in Italy and my system language is English.

Americans run the internet and they just don't get the European experience, they don't get speaking multiple languages, they think a Dutch search query from my English language system is a typo.

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in reply to Roni Rolle Laukkarinen

In Mastodon, you get to labelize yourself. Which can be a bit of a headache too for instance selection: I live and breathe F/OSS so "that" instance would've been kinda obvious, but I don't want to categorize myself by that, or by music, or books or any other single thing which make up the whole that is me. That includes the choice of language - often I post in Finnish, but some other topics seem more natural in English.

So thank you @rolle for hosting this wonderful instance where I can be me.

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@jebantyk I disagree with everything you just said, but OK! ✌️
in reply to Roni Rolle Laukkarinen

This is very reassuring to hear. I have definitely become a bit jaded by my experience on 'other' platforms.
in reply to Roni Rolle Laukkarinen

I've just told someone the other day how sad that there is no MySpace anymore. Ppl use FB instead, but everyone's pages are uniform, not speaking about how rotten FB is itself.
in reply to Roni Rolle Laukkarinen

On Twitter, I had over one million followers.

On Mastodon, I had 12,000 until I had to move, and the transfer did not go so well.

Upon another move, I had over 2,000 until I had to move, and the transfer did not go so well.

I can understand why some people choose Twitter or Blue Sky. The fragmentation, technical issues, and sometimes drama is the downside of the Fediverse many people do not want to put up with.

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in reply to Linux Is Best

@Linux Sure. This is an old topic.

People tend to choose where others are and what feels easiest. But these days, it's more like being lazy and not wanting to learn anything new. It's also about not caring. And often, it's about gloating and follower numbers, trying to be influential. That's all wrong.

We need to bring back the "authenticity" in all of this. Not everything has to be perfectly polished all the time. Large corporations have more manpower to make everything seem flawless for the user, but at a great cost.

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in reply to Roni Rolle Laukkarinen

At the same time, tools for migrating past Mastodon posts to new Fediverse servers exist, but require more time commitment from people. Things could be easier, but it's all up to volunteers (and users themselves) to build & use those.

Or if something is really important for someone, people can pay software engineers for the data migration.

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in reply to Daniel Schildt

@autiomaa
It is not about being lazy and not putting in the effort. It is simply that the Fediverse reminds me of Junior High School.

Hypothetically, if you and I had an issue (we don't, but for argument's sake), we could simply block one another. But in the Fedi someone could actively block the whole site I am on, or the admin could suspend my account, and on Mastodon, I would not be able to port out (Misskey, however, still lets you port out).

Check my post history, and you will discover that I am PRO choice, PRO LGBTQ+, PRO Trans Rights, PRO Black Lives Matter, and you will discover numinous instances where I have had to deal with complete nonsense. There is a lot of hate on Twitter and junk on Blue Sky, but I was not hindered there.

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in reply to Roni Rolle Laukkarinen

My post blew up, thanks to some high rollers follower-wise 😹

I always get a few nay-sayers sliding into my notifications, going on about "no interactions", "no traction", "not social", "no appeal" nonsense. How do you explain these comments and likes every other second then? You should follow more than 20 people here.

#Fediverse #Mastodon

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in reply to Roni Rolle Laukkarinen

it’s hard to get traction if you never wanna talk to anyone, have nothing to say, don’t interact and/or generally don’t want to put in even the most minimal amount of effort towards making your feed yours. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

It can’t be too much to ask from a user to actually think what they want to see? There’s no benefit in fostering a social media culture that is based on mindless browsing—that’s the shit that’s wrong in this world. People should be forced to think from time to time if we want a society that doesn’t become mostly about everyone smelling their own farts and trying to pass those around as perfume.

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in reply to Roni Rolle Laukkarinen

I get more interactions/"engagement" on Mastodon than I ever did anywhere else.

I think what some folks might not get is that the greasy growth-hacking strategies that worked on Meta/X/etc don't work here. My impression is that fediverse folks value authenticity more so than on other platforms, and don't take kindly to tactics that are clearly more about making numbers go up than actually sharing anything that matters.

And that's fine. I don't want those people here.

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in reply to Roni Rolle Laukkarinen

yes! My standard line is that if you aren't following at least 200ppl then you haven't set up your presence yet.

I suppose some think their mere presence will have people tripping over themselves to reach out to them.

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in reply to Roni Rolle Laukkarinen

I regularly get more engagement with my posts than big fedi accounts with 2X to 5X my follower count…simply because I actually personally converse with people and their accounts are no better than RSS feeds.

People on fedi know who's legit. That's what I love about it. 🥰

in reply to Jared White (ResistanceNet ✊)

@jaredwhite same I have a super lively feed but then I follow and chat with a lot of people! This isn't a broadcast only place.

Everything I post gets a lot more action here than anything does on Bluesky despite a few of those starter pack things giving me like 6k followers now. It's an echo chamber that really echoes...

in reply to Roni Rolle Laukkarinen

Who to follow though...I remember when Facebook first started (yes I'm that old) I followed just whoever and any familiar name I could find. Then I had to weed most of them back out over time.
in reply to Roni Rolle Laukkarinen

And you can talk about anything you want and it has an equal chance of being seen.
in reply to Roni Rolle Laukkarinen

100% agree. I post and read in English, Spanish and Catalan, I see all three in my home.
I'd like the trending to reflect this as well but obviously English posts come on top.
in reply to Roni Rolle Laukkarinen

The underlying change in the labeling paradigm is what worries me the most. There's been a fast and steady cultural switch in the last 15 years -albeit we wouldn't expect to be always the same, obviously!- in which a vast majority of users have changed the way they view their virtual/online personas. There's something inherently unnerving in seeing people reproduce the slogans and clichés suggested by the algorythm and saying aloud they indentify so much with them. Fediverse feels great!
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in reply to Roni Rolle Laukkarinen

oh yeah, I really agree with this point.
I have discord and steam in English but phone and windows language are russian because I share my pc with family and same for phone sometimes.
Why discord so insistent to switch to Russian when it set English? It many times forgets language set on phone and I have hybrid of everything English and then Спойлер ... Same for games on steams. Please don't just put RU because my system, worse when translation subpar. Where choose language at start?
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william.maggos

@mhanson101 @Johns_priv @Npars01
this is true also. group tech vs what we have with AP which is very much like the web where we don't limit access by default.

trying to do what you want with auto federating FOSS tech seems a little silly to me. probably should be opt in. better to fork it imo.

in reply to Roni Rolle Laukkarinen

All it takes is one weird trick:

Design it to not be a tool for monetization.

That's it. Nothing more.

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william.maggos

@mhanson101 @Npars01
the web isn't supposed to be special and the biggest jerk only ruins things if we let them. the specialness comes from decentralization w/o algos but with moderation that lets everybody share a network but only see each other to the degree we choose to. that's why it has worked so well and what we could do better here IMO.

people import norms from big tech with algos over here, not realizing that the Nazi bar problem isn't an issue on the open web with nazi sites.

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@mhanson101 @Npars01
I support going hard on all unwanted mentions, and fediblocking servers that don't police accounts that do that.

again, that's different than somebody who posts a conservative view without tagging anybody. today, that person might get a ton of mean replies here. vs a progressive view where such negative replies would be cause for moderating those replying.

both sets of replies should be dealt w carefully, trying to let the conversation happen but not be mean.

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@mhanson101 @Npars01
I'm arguing for taking advantage of decentralization here to maximize everybody being able to see what they want here, including conservatives. that's possible because we don't have ads or algos, when we also moderate for unwanted mentions (including mean replies to conservatives, not just progressives).

this ability to mix how we choose is not possible on closed platforms with algos, but people should be able to have those with any rules they want also.

in reply to Roni Rolle Laukkarinen

the replies on this have been rather interesting :thonking:

I found the language telling, how you called it "lively" and at least one particularly active critic lamented the lack of "organic interactions". As opposed to synthetic interactions, famously worthless to advertisers? Huh!

And some are like "oh but we can't post whatever *we* want, we get defederated". Like they're looking for a platform where they can shove their content in other people's faces non consensually no matter what it is, like, uh… advertisers?… :blobcatthinkingeyes:

Hold on, I think I'm starting to see a pattern here… :tone_halfjoking:

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in reply to Roni Rolle Laukkarinen

i started having more activity on instagram when i was in finland, even though i do not speak the language, and the connections i made there were more international than typically finnish.
yet, even now that i am back to france instagram gives me almost exclusively finnish language ads and posts.
idk if there is such a thing as a "finnish bias" but it sounds funny so i am willing to believe there is.
in reply to Roni Rolle Laukkarinen

yep! And I love to see the posts in languages other than English. OK I can't hardly ever understand but "I like seeing them" anyway! Hardly an 'effort' to scroll on is it?
in reply to Roni Rolle Laukkarinen

Well said. I'm still learning about the fediverse, this is my first week. So far, I'm encouraged.

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okanogen VerminEnemyFromWithin
@catzilla @Linux
I don't think it is wrong for people to expect the time they put into their social media to be relevant.
I don't think it is wrong to equate relevance with a certain amount of followers or engagement.
Touting the fediverse as a social media site where users have almost no relevance isn't a winning advert.
in reply to okanogen VerminEnemyFromWithin

Bingo! (Well said.)

I joined social media for the same reason I used to join forums: as a way to socialize within the digital world. If I wanted to shout into the void without caring whether anyone heard me or not, I’d have a blog.

The Fediverse is exactly the place to look for people — because it's supposedly decentralized, and supposedly a place where no one can shut you down. Arguing otherwise, as @Okanogen said, is not the way to gain support for the Fediverse.

But if you feel otherwise, I’d be curious to know your motivation for being here.

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in reply to Roni Rolle Laukkarinen

"The most profound thing about it is the international coverage."

How many Africans living in Africa do you follow ?

in reply to Hitsu Yonai

@hitsuyonai Some. And there are some instances too, like mastodon.africa
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@mhanson101 @Npars01
yes, don't do mean replies to anybody. but the policy here (and it's good) has never been to ask every user to block the mean people themselves every time. they get reported and stopped from bothering others. servers that host lots of assholes get fediblocked. I agree w that. just do that for harassing anybody.

as I said, on closed places like twitter with algos, the owner is doing propaganda. yeah, I'll tell Zuck not to push meta glasses too.

we have power here.

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@mhanson101 @Npars01
or maybe we should instead take your approach and scour the web for every website with stuff we don't like and harass them until that's all taken down, no matter if you're the only person outside of the site owner that has ever seen it. /snark

I'm very concerned that we're all talking to each other civilly cause I think that's ultimately how knowledge and empathy expands and the moral arc bends toward justice in the most sustainable way. the fedi can help a lot.

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in reply to william.maggos

@wjmaggos Following this discussion from the sidelines, I understand both of your points. Our instance is very liberal, and I do not support blocking instances that don't block some other instances - that's absurd. However, I also recognize that nazis and abusers have no place in my part of the Fediverse. Supporting right-wing policies doesn't automatically make someone a human scum. For example, our company has people across the entire spectrum - politically, ideologically, and by identity. If I don't like or agree with someone, it doesn't give me the right to harass them. @mhanson101 @Npars01
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@mhanson101 @Npars01
so I think that means they can choose again.
in reply to Roni Rolle Laukkarinen

Glad to hear it's working out well for someone. For me it's slowly getting better, but, ultimately, I still only get to interact with the people I'd met IRL or on twitter for most of the time here. Find myself craaaaving for something that looks more like a fully connected social graph: churning chaos, engagement, amalgamation of languagus, rapid evolution of discourse and ideas. These are mostly contrary to much of the pro-mental health reaction to the aggresion of the advertisers
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@nobody

"Find myself craaaaving for something that looks more like a fully connected social graph: churning chaos, engagement, amalgamation of languagus, rapid evolution of discourse and ideas."

I see no reason why that isn’t achievable in the Fediverse.

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Roni Rolle Laukkarinen

@Okanogen I think admins have right to choose. Similarly I can choose to ban entire networks from accessing my website (e. g. botnets). Nothing new in this.

@caroona @catzilla @Linux

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in reply to okanogen VerminEnemyFromWithin

@Okanogen @catzilla @Linux It's more like relevance is less unevenly distributed on here

Not like on other platforms everyone has millions of followers. So you could say the majority of people are on those other networks to follow the minority. Most people are not that relevant so a few can feel extra relevant.

And the fact that things are different in the Fediverse actually is a big plus to me.

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@caroona @catzilla @Linux
I'm not advocating the million follower algorithm model, but the fediverse really needs to stop putting up barriers to users relevance and engagement in the supposed quest for "safety".
I also don't think it is wrong for people like, for example George Takei to have a huge amount of followers.
Where is the harm? Muting and blocking are right there.
The way the fedi is set up virtually quarantees that no post will go viral, whether users want to see it or not.

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in reply to Roni Rolle Laukkarinen

you are absolutely right, whenever I go to X and try to start over by creating a new account, immediately it starts showing me extreme right wing outright racist posts from my country assuming that I will also endorse such things since some demographic similar person to me does!

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in reply to okanogen VerminEnemyFromWithin

@Okanogen @caroona @catzilla

I’ll argue that constantly banning entire sites is a problem.

Why?

On the Fediverse, I have three (3) accounts — just so I can follow everyone I want to follow.

There are admins who will argue with one person, one time, and suddenly the entire site — along with 5,000+ other users — is blacklisted. That one person can move to another instance, but the admin is still blocking 5,000+ innocent users who had nothing to do with it.

Fragmentation on the Fediverse is a major issue. Meanwhile, on Twitter or Bluesky, one person doesn't diminish everyone else.

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@Linux I understand that. But it's the nature of the web, unfortunately users have to choose their hosting carefully. Some admins make poor decisions. That's one of the reasons I run my own servers.

I really believe that fragmentation isn't a real issue on the Internet. That's how the web is built - servers don't all follow each other sometimes, and that's perfectly fine. It's been like that from the start; I've even denied access to entire servers on IRC and other platforms.

Commercial platforms want as many people as possible to be in the same place - that's how they make money. But that's not the real internet; it is a commercial utopia. Nobody can genuinely be connected with everyone, and that is okay.

@Okanogen @caroona @catzilla

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in reply to Roni Rolle Laukkarinen

It's kind of the point of a federated service though. An over-zealous admin has no real oversight and it impacts all users on that instance.

@Linux @Okanogen@mastodon.social @caroona @catzilla

in reply to Linux Is Best

@Linux @Okanogen @caroona @catzilla yeah, the admins deciding which site gets banned or not and thus not having any real control of who I can follow is probably my main reason for self-hosting, which, I can absolutely understand, is way too much of an ask for a normal person

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@ramuuns @Okanogen @caroona @catzilla

I wouldn’t pay money for this — at all.

Why would I?

So I can have a disagreement with someone who turns out to be an admin somewhere, and then suddenly my entire instance gets blacklisted — cutting me off from 5,000+ people?

No, thank you.

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@Linux @ramuuns @caroona @catzilla
And all of your users are cut off from that admin's users, and it goes in both directions.
I get that certain servers can be problems, like nazi or spam servers, but I have seen a lot of petty site blocks.
Not sure what the answer is, but it does not create an optimal user experience.

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@Okanogen @ramuuns @caroona @catzilla

I block 9 sites - Nazis, spam, and scammers.

But then you visit something like Mas dot to, who has 11,000 users, and a block list a mile long.

Thankfully, they don't block our site. But on the other site I was on, they did.

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it is truly amazing to me. I just wrote a short one with exactly the same feeling. It's much less learned, but was just expressing my sheer delight of having found this #fediverse
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humans categorize for simplicity. Computers categories out of necessity. Don’t let AI and algorithms define who you are or how you experience space.
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"You can't see that many posts from other instances"

This has changed in Mastodon 4.4 with fetch replies feature.

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With fetch all replies, things have changed somewhat greennuclear.online/@collectif…

Also, later there will be Fediverse Auxiliary Service Providers blog.joinmastodon.org/2025/07/…

#FetchAllReplies

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Completely, I speak Baguette Roast beef and broken Sauerkraut. Only on the fedi do I get german to pop up from time to time because I get retoots and people I follow who also post in german. On bluesky I can see french and english from all places tho mostly irish, british and usa... which is already miles better than what twitter used to serve me which was full on freedom/bald-eagle² murica content.
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totally agree! Algorithmic bigtech flattens everything into quantifiable categories, types, ages, genders, genres, *what you last searched or bought or viewed or talked about*. But humans are a qualitative, interpretive, multivariant ebb and flow. Meta React cannot deal with that.
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I love the Fediverse because I can freely control who and what I see in my TL or even who or what can even talk to my box
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Fediverse is fantastic. I just wish that some topics were discussed more here.

That's why I always had hope that Threads or Bluesky would federate fully, but unfortunately it still has never happened.😔

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