The claim is untrue at face value, at least for the consumer, since the markets are linked. But there is a point here that the less we depend on fossil energy, the less the oil prices matter to the consumer.
Yeah, I assumed so too, but I work with this so I get the distinction. I suspect most people read "expensive" in the context of what they pay. Regardless, the less we rely on millions of years old goo, the better.
Yeah, I hate living in a world where everything gets evaluated against short term economic gain and everything else seems to be irrelevant when all is said and done. It will be the downfall of our era. At the very least, I hope future generations can make better choices. Ours seems not to be able to in any way that really matters.
@veronica I severely dislike the fact that we live in the era of Homo Shareholder which has to be pleased with pofits and bonuses without any consideration of the future of even their own offspring...
Thankfully, the company I work for is publicly owned, so the shareholder profit goes back to the people in our area, and our municipal budgets.
Edit: The government adds a 45% tax on the natural resource usage, in addition to the 22% corporate tax, so a good deal also goes to the big tax bucket.
@veronica Taxes and breathing, the two things you can't live without, it seems. Still, your employer sounds like a good place. Congratulations on moving there.
@max For the record, my political opinion is that it should be as you say. Electricity should be sold reasonably close to cost, and regulated as such, not traded on exchanges where the goal is to maximise profit. Energy is a common good and an essential resource.
Do you think that people having solar panels on their roof will pay something more this month to convert solar radiation hitting their panels into electricity?
@max Moving the goal post doesn't make your claim about "the price of solar and wind energy don't increase" any more correct. The price is the price. If you don't pay it, then that has nothing to do with what we're talking about.
unfortunately, in the UK at least, electricity prices are still tied to gas prices so unless you have solar and battery and a new enough house to use a heat pump, it does affect us. Hopefully those prices will be decoupled in future.
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Thankfully, the company I work for is publicly owned, so the shareholder profit goes back to the people in our area, and our municipal budgets.
Edit: The government adds a 45% tax on the natural resource usage, in addition to the 22% corporate tax, so a good deal also goes to the big tax bucket.
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I think the claim is true.
The final price paid by most of us is an average of all energy prices and it raises up as an effect of oil price raise.
However, the price of solar and wind energy don't increase.
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