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We’re thrilled to be bringing you a upcoming feature to help you find your people on Mastodon: Packs. (Or something… we’re still figuring out the name.)
As always, we want to build this important feature for the community WITH the community.
Read this blog post about our approach and let us know what you think!

blog.joinmastodon.org/2025/10/…

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What about account migration *with* posts? Focus on essentials firsst.
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A flock of elephants (which is the closest we get I guess) can be called a herd, sure, but it can also be called a parade!

Join the parade! Find your parade! Your new friends awaits you at the parade!

I think we should call it a parade!

✨PARADE✨

#Parade #MastodonParade

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yeah, the collective noun "pack" is used for wolves, dogs and hyenas (and hounds, cards, cigarettes, lies and thieves).

If you want something for elephants, try "herd" or "parade".

(Source: britannica.com/science/Animal-…)

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Is the main scenario really just onboarding here? I like the idea of curated lists of accounts on a certain topic. Something that may be updated regularly. Something like the lists feature but sharable. Maybe similar to OPML.
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orbit or circle or jhund (hindi word)
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As for the wording, "Parades" better fit the mastodonte metaphor than "Packs". What's of interest to me is more about agency and privacy. How to make sure people can know when they are part of one (especially if the thing has been created on another instance)? Suspend or remove themselves from it? Communicate with the thing's owner?
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How about the ability to add hashtags to starter packs too?

People will not know all the common hashtags for the subjects that they are interested in, e.g. Defaidodon, LichenSubscribe,...

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Please, please just let me turn off the boost/quote menu.

I can't remember seeing more than a single quote toot so far and have never used (or wanted) it myself.

That's it. Please fix this before I can't stand it any more.

80% of the time the only option on that menu is boost. This is an awful #UX fail.

Thanks for listening.

#ux
in reply to Mark Hughes

@markhughes we have an open issue on GitHub about this, explaining the reasons and constraints of this choice. We are listening to ideas on how to solve this in a good way, feel free to contribute there: github.com/mastodon/mastodon/i…
@Mastodon
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This addresses the consent aspect but doesn't have anything to say about how it skews the power dynamics. What happened on Bluesky was that getting included into a few packs was a "lottery win" and people gave little Oscar acceptance speeches to their tens of thousands of new followers, while people who had happened to not be included in this or that pack were bitter about their exclusion
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in reply to Tom Walker

@tomw Exactly my experience on #Bsky! There, it's a horrible elitist system that favours influencers and gives them even more votes. No chance for people who cover multiple topics (packs prefer one topic only-people) or are unknown. And you have to annoy people begging so that they give you a chance.
At least on B., connected to the algorithms, it's on the way to #enshittification.
I would like to consider this danger.

@Mastodon

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is this the implementation that takes advantage of #activitypub "Organization" object type, so that ppl can join / unjoin an org?
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It's a good idea that we can control to be added or not! 👍

What I think about Bsky: mastodon.online/@NatureMC/1153…

Their way of pumping up the already big influencers would be a danger for Mastodon's organic structure.

For me, it was quite easy to build my timeline with subscribing to my favourite hashtags. But most people don't know that they *can* subscribe! Why not making that more public? It's already a structure to find like-minded people.


@tomw Exactly my experience on #Bsky! There, it's a horrible elitist system that favours influencers and gives them even more votes. No chance for people who cover multiple topics (packs prefer one topic only-people) or are unknown. And you have to annoy people begging so that they give you a chance.
At least on B., connected to the algorithms, it's on the way to #enshittification.
I would like to consider this danger.

@Mastodon


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Starter-Packs wären grundsätzlich eine gute Sache. Leider sind aber schon viele z.B. Bundesministerien , Politiker und Journalisten zu Bluesky gewechselt, ohne die Bridging-Funktion zu Mastodon zu nutzen. Somit werden die Accounts, die dann möglicherweise in diesen Starter-Packs gelistet sind, hier leider garnicht mehr genutzt.
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The Internet runs on cats. We could be a Tribe or Pride.
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The first two things that come to my mind are that I'm pleased we can choose to opt-out of being included, and the way hashtags work on here is most satisfying and I'd like to see it continued.
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@FediFollows Has helped me find a tonne of accounts I wouldnt have found on my own. Their feedback (as you've mentioned) may be worth something(?).
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It would be nice to be able to browse through such “albums.” So far, it’s been challenging to discover accounts by focus or interest. “Packs” brings to mind stray dogs, but also piles of material, so I suppose it depends on personal perspective.
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If not “packs” then maybe “sets?” I’d be hesitant to obscure the meaning too much for the sake of thematics, the simpler the better.

Something else that they did that helped with onboarding was to create shareable lists (called feeds) that are for certain topics based on words and tags within posts. I know we can search topics via words or tags, but a topic of interest being a click or two away vs manually entering the search terms is powerful, almost like a subreddit but not.

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based on how this played out on bsky, I urge you to reconsider this feature. At minimum you need controls to opt out of packs entirely at the account level. They very easily became a vector for abuse or unwanted attention and confused replies.
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I'd just like to suggest you plan ahead and make any lists of users for any purpose useable/tranformable for any other purpose -- vs on bluesky sharter packs and feeds were different somehow and not exchangeable. Also keep a user list of changes to their account, so they know what happened, and the ablity to UNDO.
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we should borrow the collective noun of elephants, and call it a parade!
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For the quick start part of it, maybe users during onboarding (say in the app) could pick starter packs first, and then be recommended instances partly based on what the people in their chosen starter packs are using?

You're interested in anarchist starter packs, here's some anarchist instances for you. Of french lierature or cycling or whatever.

It has some matthews effect potential, but I don't think it's a terrible idea.

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this is the greatest feature this platform could ever have, since I've been making curated and private lists for people to follow and sending them those manually every time they join the platform. Awesome feature, will greatly be used! 🕊️
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„Herd“
Mastodonians are not wolves, we don't form packs like the fascists on X.
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I hate this idea. I like Mastodon because it's NOT like corporate social media.

Having an empty timeline until you find people to follow is not a problem that needs solving; people are just too used to being spoon fed by the algorithm.

If you add this feature, please allow people to opt out of being added to starter packs.

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I like the direction you’re taking here and I look forward to seeing how this works out. One idea: would a “starter pack” of hashtags be a thing that would make sense? I really appreciate the ability to follow hashtags; maybe that could be a way to help on board new folks: “Not sure *who* to follow? Follow your favorite hashtags and find your people!”
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If it's not called Trunks, then what is there left in life?
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Cool concept.

Some trust and safety suggestions:

Finer grained controls around packs than an all or nothing "I can be in packs" or "I can't be in packs". Especially that "I can't be in packs that someone from a limited or blocked instance or user created.

Also, a user is notified when they get added to one. If I get added to a "People you should harass" pack I want to be able to get out of that one.

@Mastodon

in reply to Jess👾

@JessTheUnstill That is outlined in the Blogpost:

Users will be notified when they are included in a Pack. Unlike on Bluesky, where users wishing to remove themselves from a Starter Pack [...] users on Mastodon will have a more neutral mechanism to remove themselves from a Pack they do not wish to be part of. (note: we implemented something similar with the Quote Posts feature, where an original post can be removed from a quote post; this same idea would flow through to Packs).

in reply to Jess👾

@JessTheUnstill Thanks! Some of these T&S points are addressed in the blog post.
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Oh joy. When you're done copying Bluesky, can you do something about fixing searches and hashtags.
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This is a good idea in principle but how will you safeguard against spamming?

On a server like social, which has open signups with no verification or human checking, it would be a spammer's delight. Create an account, follow all the "packs" and let rip.

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I'm sure many will like this new feature, but many will also hate it and may even leave Mastodon because of it.
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This has to be a "user curated" feature. You could potentially do something automated like add the accounts with the most followers, but you can't determine how legitimate the follower count is. It could be an account followed by a bunch of crap accounts.

I think there should be a button on every user's public profile that people can click if they think the account should be recommended in a pack. Maybe limit the vote to instance members, or send suggestions to the admins for submit.

in reply to LuyaPapi

@luyapapi
"add the accounts with the most followers" bad bad bad idea.
it promotes bot activity.
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I'm not sure if "Packs. (Or something... we're still figuring out the name.)" Is a good name. I don't think it'd fit very well in the UI
in reply to Chad

@chad @alphapuggle "Starter pack" is an established term in trading card games, I guess that's where it came from. It will also make it easier for people coming here from BlueSky to have the same terminology.

Also, Mastodon is only part of the Fediverse, so we shouldn't use elephant-specific terminology.

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is it ok to write you an email with other ideas I have but don't know a place to talk about them?
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"Firstly, it’s important to us that users have control over whether they appear in Packs on Mastodon."

Thaaaaaaaaaank you.

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How about calling it 'Aisles'

As in, what you are looking for may be in the next aisle.

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What about the Word "Circle". ? I miss it from Google+.
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Well a pack of elephants is a herd, so..... I mean it's right there ;)