Ricordati sempre che appena ti iscrivi, non avrai praticamente connessioni con altri utenti e quindi non ti vedrà nessuno. L'unico modo che hai per "esistere" è interloquire con gli altri, rispondendo ai loro messaggi con messaggi consoni.
La guida di Informapirata a Friendica, dedicata a tutti coloro che dal Fediverso vogliono ottenere tutto il possibile.
Un Mastodon con gli steroidi e attualmente l’unica alternativa a Facebook di tutto il Fediverso. Con mille pregi e, soprattutto, mille difetti. E mai nessuno che ci spieghi come utilizzarlo. Almeno finora…
@Massimiliano Polito di limatine bisognerà darne sicuramente tante: Friendica è il software social più completo di funzionalità, ma non brilla per immediatezza... 😅
@max Non è perfetto e alcuni malfunzionamenti sono fastidiosi. Però per ogni problema c'è un artificio per aggirarlo, e alla fine Friendica è talmente potente che le (o gli?) si perdona tutto.
Grazie, ho già letto un po' di cose, è da qualche sera che sto "studiando" l'argomento "fediverse". Adesso devo fare un po' di pratica se no mi riempio la testa di teoria e mi manca tutto il resto.
Poi devo completare il profilo... ce n'è da fare. 😁😁😁
@aimee80 Come puoi vedere dalle immagini, devi copiare il link originale del tuo post Friendica, che troverai in corrispondenza delle indicazioni dell'ora del messaggio. Poi Devi andare su mastodon e cliccare o sulla lente di ingrandimento oppure sulla funzione esplora, incollare quello che hai copiato all'interno della Casella di ricerca e premere invio. In questo modo vedrai il tuo post dentro mastodon
Tengo aggiornato in bio il titolo del libro che leggo. Lo faccio per costringermi a fermarmi davanti a un libro dopo anni in cui la vita mi ha coinvolto troppo non lasciandomi l'energia sufficiente per la lettura. Non mi sembra vero che, secoli fa, non solo leggessi ma scrivessi anche racconti e poesie.
Rimuovo i miei post dopo non troppo tempo, e aggiorno spesso le mie bio: più che mai adesso con la vecchiaia mi accorgo che le esperienze mi scavano dentro e mi cambiano secondo dopo secondo.
@Il Simone Viaggiatore Vero: s'impara a non chiudere gli occhi, a non nascondersi, a lasciare che le esperienze arrivino, entrino in noi, scavino e sostituiscano con cose nuove ciò che tolgono. S'impara a non rimpiangere ciò che si è lasciato indietro, a godere delle cose nuove e a camminare con lo sguardo alto davanti a sé. La vecchiaia è l'età migliore.
The European Medicines Agency (EMA) said on Monday it would no longer post on X and would use rival Bluesky instead, becoming the latest organisation to quit a social media platform that people have criticised for its content.
I've had a lot of people ask how BlueSky compares to Mastodon and the Fediverse. I've tried to make the answer as simple and easy to understand as possible:
🦋 BlueSky is designed to give corporations and wealthy people full control of the network. All of its traffic has to flow through expensive-to-run corporate relays.
The Fediverse is designed to give ordinary people control of the network. All of its traffic flows directly from one cheap-to-run server to another.
@effariwhy Do you have a link to the current status as a source? I only know this article (in german) from November: "Bluesky: How is a ‘decentralised ecosystem’ financed? Bluesky was launched as a non-profit organisation, and controversial names emerged in the latest round of financing" derstandard.de/story/300000024…
Social networks in general aren't good for privacy, as far as I know none of them have E2EE. It's much better to use encrypted messaging systems such as XMPP with OMEMO, @briar etc.
There is discussion of how to bring E2EE to Mastodon at github.com/mastodon/mastodon/i… but it hasn't been updated in some time.
Pitch The UI now warns us that: Posts on Mastodon are not end-to-end encrypted. Do not share any sensitive information over Mastodon. Would it be possible to use zero-knowledge encryption such that...
BlueSky is not a non-profit, it is owned by Bluesky Social PBC which is a for-profit corporation.
In October it announced that it had partially sold itself to Blockchain Capital, and the same announcement said they had appointed a blockchain/cryptocurrency expert to their board:
This is why I have been trying to warn about #BlueSky.
BlueSky has just been partially bought by a cryptocurrency company "Blockchain Capital" and appointed a blockchain / cryptocurrency expert to their board:
The board member is a bitcoin researcher involved with NFT analytics.
BlueSky describe the tie-up with Blockchain Capital as a "natural partnership" and says the blockchain company has "a uniquely deep understanding of our decentralized foundation".
Bluesky now exceeds 13 million users, the AT Protocol developer ecosystem continues to grow, and we’ve shipped highly requested features like direct messages and video.
Probably worth mentioning at some point that the design for interop between platform corporations is pure vapor at this point and there are no real efforts underway to implement it.
Even if it was real, BlueSky could simply defederate from everyone as they have such a large share of the userbase. This is what Facebook did with XMPP interoperability, they kept it internally but switched off all external connections.
@benjamin @janxdevil Facebook *never* federated, what they offered was client connection (which many people used pidgin for, which could have other accounts as well)
Google did federate for a long time, but it was defederated by many deployements before they stopped the service, because it was effectively abandoned and not even supporting STARTTLS (which means everything went there in cleartext)
I am getting your point and of course, I promote Fediverse as much as I can.
But there are definitely reasons why users prefer BlueSky massively. I am not sure about their MAU, because they are centralized service, there is no way to verify independently, but they may be easily 10 times our MAU.
I think the need to choose the instance is not the main problem of Mastodon and Fediverse. It is quite easy to explain to newbies. The problem is quite simple and straighforward: it is UX focused on power users.
There are too many new concepts to learn. There is no reason, why end users should have to even know about federation: it is the implementation, that matters. Backfilling history of toots and timeline of other instances instead of "opening original page". Starter packs (ie. easy sharing of user-generated lists - no CSV imports). Propper scanning for all replies (somehow). Better search feature. Better explore feature...
Also, even if Mastodon may be the best ActivityPub client so far, it is definitely not for everyone. It is quite complex chunk of code. The frontend is written in JavaScript, which is of course very standard and it is my fault I am not more familliar with it. But Ruby is pretty oldschool server side language and not among the most popular. This makes the backend quite unreadable... although probably still better, than node.js 🙂
Anyway, it is not easy for me to participate in development of neither frontend nor backend of Mastodon.
Writing completely different Fediverse application would be probably hard and I definitely don't feel one should attempt it as one man show. The team would need to start with such ActivityPub implementation, which would fix the issues like replies, and then maybe work with W3C to standardize account list sharing, so other Fedi implementations can join.
Good cellphone app would be a must. It would have to come with good instance selector. Etc.
If you care about MAU, why not just join Twitter, Facebook, Instagram etc? They have much bigger MAUs than BlueSky.
What exactly is the point of joining BlueSky at all as it is going down exactly the same path as Twitter, Facebook etc? What advantage is there to users?
@mackuba @xChaos @janxdevil Or it could be that the ire against Meta is not as profound as it sounds in the Fediverse chambers. And/or that the desire for an alternative does not outweigh the discomfort of trying something new. Meta's version of Mastodon, Threads, already has 275M users. Last I heard, only 50K of them have enabled their ability to follow the Fediverse on their settings. I vote for Fediverse.
I replied that if MAUs are your main concern, you can get even higher MAUs on Twitter etc.
As for going down the path, it's a matter of fact that Bluesky has adopted the same structure as Twitter, Facebook etc. Pretending it hasn't doesn't change this fact.
All I said is that many Bluesky users are quite nice and they have chosen the platform because lot of people went there and because it was straightforward to use.
I did my best, but Mastodon is simply not user friendly enough for most people. It offers some quite advanced features for power users, but at the same time, it lacks certain basics, which newbies would take for granted. The don't care about the architecture of the network, as long as they don't have to think about it.
We need to keep on trying and one day, Bluesky may seem boring to some and they will move here...
Ordinary users are attracted to a well-funded simple platform.
The trouble is this simplicity is what makes it easy for Musk etc to buy it out. And the massive amount of funding is what will eventually force it to start exploiting and manipulating its users, because the funding comes from selling itself to the funders.
There is no perfect solution, there are just a range of most or least worst options. It's up to each person to decide what is least worst for them.
yes, BlueSky is going to be bought out eventually. But maybe people already got used to being digital nomads and they will just move again, when it happens.
I created separate list of bridged BlueSky accounts and they just seem to use it and don't think about it too much. Maybe we are too meta here...
(and also, the funding of Fedi instances is open issue... small instances are admin sponsored, but as the instances grow, they may easily reach the point, when they will be too big to be sponsored but still too small to raise funds... we will see.... I wrote python scripts, which crawl explore Mastodon compatible Fedi on various TLDs and and I am going to put the charts online soon...)
@mackuba we have Elasticsearch here, and it really helps... but we had to set up second VPS dedicated just for Elasticsearch. It was crashing the main Mastodon VPS when we tried to run it locally.
So I am all for decentralization, but servers are also produced by corporations and datacenters are run by corporations (except us, we are anomaly, but our resources are not infinite...)
Returning to the #FreeOurFeeds (FOF) initiative discussion (for background see links below)...
@pluralistic has a new piece (pluralistic.net/2025/01/20/cap…) that extends his "fire exit" analogy and discusses how it is not corporate ownership, VCs or profit motive alone that causes enshitification. It also requires captive users, and FOF will make it so Bluesky users are not captive. It all sounds good, but it's not realistic because the assumptions behind it are based on vaporware marketing.
The company represents that Jay Graber and the employees own Bluesky. This is misleading. In actuality, Bluesky has a host of tech VC shareholders (accessipos.com/bluesky-stock-i…) and is about to get more in a stunning funding round led by Bain Capital valuing the company at $700M (businessinsider.com/x-competit…).
So who are the current owners of Bluesky? Read on...
☝️ This is a great explainer of the difference between Mastodon and Bluesky, with one correction. At present there is only ONE corporate node, and the technology to create more has not been proven.
I've mainly put multiple relays on there so people can see even in the best case scenario, the AT protocol is still putting corporations in control of the network.
@mastodonmigration apparently several people have run their own relays for personal use but it's not for the faint of heart apparently you need several terabytes of preferably solid state storage and a very fast network connection and while the code for the relay server is public it isn't terribly well documented
@mastodonmigration definitely not technically feasible for most people or even for most technically skilled hobbyists (I'm certainly not planning on running a relaying myself)
Cory Doctorow has written about the Sky one several times lately, but I think this piece is a decent verbal explication of what the graphic is representing visually (I'm not great with visuals; it took me a minute LOL): doctorow.medium.com/https-plur…
If you’d like an essay-formatted version of this post to read or share, here’s a link to it on pluralistic.net, my surveillance-free, ad-free, tracker-free blog: Of course you should do everything…
Doctorow seems to think that if there is a choice of corporate relays, that that will somehow make things okay. I admire him greatly, but respectfully think he is mistaken on this particular topic.
About the diagrams on my post, they should be explained by the text in the original post? Fediverse servers are cheap to run and talk directly to each other, BlueSky servers can only talk to expensive-to-run corporate relays.
In my opinion, the apps for accessing the fediverse simply have much better features than BlueSky. Also, I block 20 bots on BlueSky for every human I find to follow.
There is one key question I haven’t yet seen answered anywhere:
“[…] our proposed methodology here of networking through Relays instead of server-to-server isn’t prescriptive. The protocol is actually explicitly designed to work both ways.” docs.bsky.app/docs/advanced-gu…
QUESTION: What would that look like? Would each PDS have to crawl all relevant PDSes (=very inefficient)?
Whether or not AT Protocol can be decentralized hinges on the answer.
The AT Protocol is made up of a bunch of pieces that stack together. Federation means that anyone can run the parts that make up the AT Protocol themselves, such as their own server.
It sounds more like a hypothetical thing in a document rather than a real world thing actually being implemented.
BlueSky are a for-profit corporation dependent on VC money, and they've given their staff shares. That gives all of them a huge financial incentive to create a network that can be bought out by billionaires etc.
It's difficult to see why they would do anything to endanger their ability to sell themselves to wealthy investors.
@ruud The fediverse is an emergent phenomenon. Individual communities operate the computers and software. To join the federation, they agree to follow the federation rules. Mastodon and the larger Fediverse are very much a covenant governed thing.
My favorite part is when people say "Bluesky has no algorithm" (as someone who studied computer science, I hate that "algorithm" has become this dirty and evil word). This is false. It does has a bunch of algo feeds that one can subscribe to (bsky.app/feeds). Things like "Discover", "Popular with friends", and so on. You're not forced or nagged to look at these feeds, but they do exist for anyone who wishes to use them.
Furthermore all Bluesky posts can be boosted by algorithmic feeds; there's no "unlisted" post setting. Forced discoverability is not good for someone who just wants a quiet social media presence.
Finally, blocks are public, which is a world of drama waiting to happen. There's even a block leaderboard clearsky.app
I will stick to Mastodon, but even as technical minded user, it's way more frustrating to use. I can't even see half the content that is on other Mastodon instances, let alone comfortably interact with other protocols. It's confusing and badly communicated by the UI. Things need multiple times the clicks than on bsky.
I understand the limitations, and things are getting better. But realistically there is no way an average internet user can comfortably switch to Mastodon at this point.
BlueSky isn't showing things from other instances at all though.
BlueSky is currently just a for-profit centralised single-instance social network, like Twitter or Facebook.
Even if it eventually linked to other instances (which isn't currently happening), it would be through massive corporate relays that would need to exploit user data to fund themselves.
I understand that - and I'm not expecting bsky to stay a viable network for long (their lack of moderation will prob get them first).
But the fact that Mastodon, at it's current state, is not usable for tech-noobs, is true at the same time. I directly experienced that when trying to get some to use it.
The green dots on the bottom image could be labelled "just an everyday person", "a small group", "a non profit organisation", "a media that has a vision", "an enthousiast hobbyist", "not a billionnaire", "a cooperative", #GeorgeTakei, "an association", " "just regular folks like you", "just an other everyday person" and so on.
Failing to mention that for the average (non-tech-savvy) user Bluesky is *significantly* more user-friendly than Mastodon and the Fediverse makes this not a very honest comparison.
Mastodon has real advantages and should in an ideal world be the main social network, but it is unable to reach that critical mass because Fedi-enthusiasts refuse to look critically at what could be improved (a lot).
Usability is simply not where it needs to be to reach a wider audience.
BlueSky is easier because it's centralised, like Twitter or Facebook. And it's going down exactly the same path to become just as awful as they are, because it is structurally the same: VC backers on a centralised for-profit corporate network.
Even if they "decentralised" with the AT protocol, it would still remain in corporate control.
If someone doesn't mind them becoming awful like this, then they might as well stay on Twitter or Facebook. What's the point of moving?
It's orders of magnitude more usable than both ex-twitter and FB and it's not run by (or overrun with) literal nazis. If you want twitter without the nazis and other shit, that's Bluesky... if you don't mind jumping through myriad technical hoops and a much smaller audience, there's Mastodon.
I'm still detecting zero willingness to look critically at Fedi and its UX issues here.
Yes, any private company could in theory be bought and change how it operates, but what *could* happen at some unknown point in the future is not what is happening right now, and this again does not address the real weaknesses of Fedi.
The fact is that for most people Bluesky TODAY is a better alternative than Mastodon. This is not because they are stupid, this is because for a non-tech-savvy user basic usability far FAR outweighs any potential advantages of open source independence.
It seems to imply that users are the green dots for BlueSky and they communicate with servers (red dots) which are (so far) run by corporations. No complaints, that's all pretty accurate.
But when you use the same green dots for the Fediverse on the bottom, it seems to imply that individuals are directly connecting to each other which is NOT accurate. Servers are still intermediaries on the Fediverse. I don't believe this is a minor distinction.
Well, the tech aspect is interesting, but let's also discuss the UI experience. The BlueSky interface is much more rewarding to the user as we get to see much more content.
BlueSky is a centralised social network, it is on one instance like Twitter or Facebook. It's inherently easier to navigate a single instance network, but it comes at the cost of making it ultra-easy to be bought out, Musk etc could buy it any time.
The BlueSky interface is paid for by selling itself to VC investors. The VCs will then be demanding lots of monetisation once they've gathered enough users. They're on the path to becoming as bad as Twitter or Facebook because of this.
Should that happen, I'll jump, just like I bailed from Twatter. Meanwhile, I find much more progressive content on BlueSky & my posts are much more effective.
And of course, every server can communicate with any server, not just its network neighbors.
In your diagram each circle would roughly correspond to servers which have mutual follows with another server (because of the bidirectional arrows). But to a first order approximation, any Fedi server can communicate with *any* other Fedi server.
So Fedi is even *far more* decentralized than your diagram makes it appear.
I like how you cut through a lot of tech talks (I find it of some interest though) to the highlight key basic differences that actually reveal the true nature of the architectures (one requiring big money, hence needing corporations vs. simple architecture costing little money to run). Thanks! I also am watching Spritely to see how it goes!
love the explainer. To be fair though search and reliable distribution is hard in a decentralized network and search works pretty badly here. I’ll still take federated for the reasons you outline but we should be honest about the tradeoffs.
after spending a little time on both (Masto is my platform but I also have Bsky) I think the online cultures are wildly different, in a way everyone could describe differently, but Masto is DIY, and people seem more free to be eccentric out of the confines of online formality crossing over into those all too-keenly-aware professionalism and other hats that you see worn on Bsky, Fedi is more free in a lot of ways I think. Eccentrics tend to feel at home here and that gives me so much joy. Others feel like walls for thoughts but Mastodon offers more space for expression and community, I feel.
Aaand that's why the mainstream media won't cover the Fediverse even though they covered both BlueSky and Threads. It doesn't make money for the corporations that fund them.
Sadly all people can see is that they only have one signup on the corporate version and the interface is a little more polished. And for that they're willing to become part of something that is specifically designed to harm them.
but the main reason I hear people join bsky is because it’s easier. Not sure #average_user is too clued in to the inner workings, or even cares about it all too much.
You might not care about the workings of something, but you might care about the effects of something. No one cares about how a medicine works, but they care if it stops them being sick.
The structure Bluesky has chosen for its tech and its business is very likely to repeat all the problems that Twitter, Facebook etc suffer from.
The things that make people leave Twitter & Facebook now are going to get repeated on Bluesky with its current structure. Then they'll have to move again.
sure, but what I’m saying is that in order to convince the masses to join mastodon over bsky, we need to make it not just theoretically better but also easy to use and connect. I’ve read the comments, spoken to colleagues who joined this then that, and the consensus is that “mastodon is hard, difficult UI” compared to bsky. For context, my friends are scientists with very little time.
If they have no time or will to consider sustainability, then they will end up having these same Musk-type problems happen to them again and again. I'm not saying this with any sort of judgement against them, it is just the consequence of their choices.
It's much easier to use a single-instance network, but that makes it easy to be taken over.
It's much easier to use a network that has massive amounts of funding from VCs, but that makes it certain to enshittify and exploit its users.
that's a great graphic to illustrate a federated approach! There is a realtime variant that shows that exact same concept applied to real world chat servers that use the XMPP protocol. You can see it at xmppnetwork.goodbytes.im/
(It's getting rather big. On mobile, this webgl rendering typically had better performance: xmppnetwork.goodbytes.im/webgl… - there's also a link to a rather nice 3d version on that site).
From what I've read, bluesky is vulnerable to being scraped (?) by 3rd party bots/spiders, and may be that way for it to make a profit in the future?
Just start out on a big server on Mastodon, get the community of friends & hashtags you like, then if you want later, easily transfer your settings & follows to a specialized server. @PamelaBarroway
As an example of how cheap and easy is to run your own #fediverse node for yourself, your friends or family, give a look at #Snac that can run on the cheapest web hosting over #CGI, on the cheapest #VPS and even over small low power computers.
The thing that is missing from your diagram is that while #Fediverse servers CAN communicate with each other, not all of them DO. This is most noticeable when you follow a #hashtag - If you are on a large, well connected instance you will see many (maybe almost all) posts containing that hashtag. If you are on a small instance, or an instance that is not well connected (for whatever reason) you will see only a small percentage (maybe close to 0%) of the posts made using that hashtag.
In situations like that, from the user's perspective the #Bluesky / AT protocol is superior, because with the centralized server and corporate relays pretty much anything posted using a given hashtag will be seen by all those who follow that hashtag.
I'm not saying we all should move to Bluesky. I'm saying that this is a problem that needs to be solved by whoever writes the software for #Mastodon and similar Fediverse instances. And if there already is a solution but few instances are using it, what is that solution and where can you find a list of instances that are already using it? I understand there will always be some blockages because instance operators don't want traffic from certain types of instances, but I'm not talking about that, I am talking about cases where a post with a hashtag doesn't reach your instance because no one using your instance is specifically following the user that made that post.
@kryptec Right, but as a USER I have no way of knowing if the instance I am using has implemented any of those. How about publishing a list of such servers? And if you have no way of knowing which servers are using any of those various ways, then how is the user supposed to know? A solution that few instances are using and/or where users have no way of knowing if their instance (or any other) is using that solution adds a level of complication and annoyance that you don't have with the big corporate platform.
The idea isn't to have a listed set of features, it's just to provide more posts visible to the instance.
Also, the user themselves can implement things like following groups which totally bypass whatever their instance can see. If you follow a group, you will see the same posts no matter which instance you are on. It's the same if you follow a particular set of accounts, the act of a user following an account changes which posts are visible to the user's instance.
Well the problem with groups is that you first have to know that a group you are interested in exists, and then chances are if you do find one it's not specific enough. Say I am running some piece of software that is giving me trouble, I can subscribe to a hashtag with the name of that piece of software, which (hopefully) will only show me posts related to that software, although that is not always the case, for example if I want to see posts about Joplin (the note taking application) I could use (hashtag)Joplin and hopefully I would get mostly posts about that software and not Joplin, Missouri or Scott Joplin the composer.
But will there be a group about Joplin? Probably not. And also, as I understand it, groups follow users, not hashtags. And in that case you can get inundated with posts that are not about the topic of interest. I have tried to follow groups a few times and generally speaking I've had to turn them off almost immediately because they flooded my timeline with uninteresting and irrelevant posts.
I think we might be talking about different kinds of groups? 🤔 A lot of different services on here have used the name "group".
Groups from services like Guppe are basically just "super hashtags". If you mention the group, the post is distributed to everyone that follows the group on any server. You can make a new group just by mentioning it.
If someone spams the group with irrelevant content, they can be reported for spamming (just like they can be with hashtag spamming).
Well there is a chicken/egg issue there, far more people are likely to use a hashtag than a group mention, and that is because they are familiar with hashtags from the dead bird site and other existing social media platforms.
So again taking Joplin (the software) as an example, chances are there is no existing group for it, and yes I could easily create one but chances are all I'm going to get is crickets because other people who post about Joplin will be using the hashtag (with which they are familiar) and not the group identifier.
Basically what I am hearing is "we can't make hashtags work the way they are supposed to in the Fediverse, so here is this substitute that few users have heard of and even fewer will actually use", rather than "we really need to fix the fediverse software so that hashtags work as they are supposed to."
@maple ok, but having all the data stored in a single, owned, instance (like BlueSky) would potentially expose users to an unknown future... as it happened with the current "big tech". I rather prefer fix and improve what is not working in the fedivese, which is the real alternative. I wish a future were we always own data, regardless of the app/technology we use
@skamu That is great and I hope you are able to fix and improve what is not working, but right now this is still a problem and it is something that would cause ordinary users (like me) to consider switching to Bluesky (or to just start with Blueskay in the first place). You have to realize that most users just don't care if they own data (probably better than half don't even seem to care about privacy, which totally blows my mind) so saying that they should use the Fediverse because of some philosophical argument about ownership isn't going to carry much weight, if they can receive most or all of the posts they want to see on another platform.
@maple Hi Maple, yeah I get your point and I agree that most of the users don't care, and it is really sad.
I am also an "ordinary user" anyway, I am just tired of directly supporting huge corporation with my personal data. I have opened my eyes and I do believe that the rest of "ordinary users" (like us) will do the same in a point.
It will probably take time, but I really believe that the "fediverse approach" will be the future.
@skamu I hope you are right, but it will take a lot longer if people think that you shouldn't even try the Fediverse because any posts you make will only be seen by a limited subset of users, even if you include hashtags they are following. People who are frequent posters often desire that what they write will be seen by the highest number of users (or at least users interested enough to follow whatever hashtags they include), so they may not have much interest in platforms that limit their exposure. And factors such as who "owns" the post content may not matter at all to them.
I am on a single user server and have over 200k followers. My other accounts on this server have 70k, 8k, 5k and 3k followers. It is possible to build a mass following without being on a large server.
"they may not have much interest in platforms that limit their exposure."
...if exposure is all they care about, why would they leave Twitter, Facebook, Instagram etc? (Genuine question.)
@skamu You're in kind of a unique position because you are very well known, so people follow you directly.
"...if exposure is all they care about, why would they leave Twitter, Facebook, Instagram etc? (Genuine question.)"
Well, I can think of two reasons, one is that they don't want some big corporation (or the evil owner thereof) owning or controlling or censoring their posts, and the other is that they don't want to share a platform with Nazis/fascists/anti-science types. But if they don't fall into either of those categories, I can't think of any reason they would want to leave one of those platforms. And right now, for the most part those things would not apply to Bluesky users (yet) so the case for leaving to come to the Fediverse is even weaker for them.
That is true but they don't have the stink of Musk or Zuckerberg associated with them. People don't always think of big corporations as being necessarily bad, and more to the point, Bluesky doesn't seem to be trying to attract the kind of people that would make you avoid a bar or restaurant if you found it was filled with those kind of people. People are leaving the dead bird site and Meta not necessarily because they are run by big corporations (although that is the reason for some), but because they have become hangouts for the Nazis and the far right and the Christian nationalists and the anti science anti-vax crowd. And because even if they don't really want to leave, their friends and family are shaming them for staying there.
Honestly, the lowest cost for a master. Don't instance. I would say it would be about $70 plus 12 or so a month to keep the D. N. S registered. $60 for raspberry Pi $10 for the needed storage to add to the pi 12 a month for domain registration can we get this Lower?
The problem is that Bluesky is lively. People respond. Here, other than this post of yours, almost nothing anybody posts here gets any comments.So ironically, there's no sense of community here. We are all just barking into the void.
It is more work to build up connections on here than on Bluesky, Twitter or Facebook. There are good reasons for this, because the structure here is designed to stop people like Musk taking over the network.
And once you do make connections on here, I would say the community on here is much more genuine, deep and friendly.
you didn't mention the AT-protocol, underneath Bluesky: it's because you don't know what it is, you didn't understand how it works or simply because you just need to keep perpetrating this completely nonsense - and frankly very boring - argument Mastodon VS Bluesky? It's not a war, man. Be at peace.
The @EUCommission has summoned me to consult in an emergency nighttime meeting to devise an urgent plan to contrast the alarming escalation of foreign centralized social networks by fostering the development of the #Fediverse in the #EU.
EDIT: this post was completely invented! I am so happy that I used the right EU slang words to make this believable, making people privately text me asking if it was true. I wish that the EU actually saw this as an urgent problem to tackle, almost as much as I wish they would call me, of all people, to consult about this. What is totally true and awesome is the day I spent in the #EuropeanParliament, welcomed by a #MEP: pan.rent/@tommi/11391268384390… 🤯
I am totally mindblown, seriously feeling like I am on another planet.
For the first time in my life, I set foot inside the #EuropeanParliament, welcomed by the most awesome Member of the European Parliament (#MEP), who I am so honored to be calling my friend.
As she is super busy, I just had the chance to chat with her over a quick lunch in the canteen of the parliament (what an incredible place), but it was marvellous to walk around that immense building together with Benni’s super lovely assistants, who were so kind to allow me to accompany them while they were busy doing 4385904 things.
🧵 This is the first post of a thread narrating my very atypical but wholesome #ParliamentSightseeing experience.
Hope you also got a chance to mention the Small Web (peer-to-peer web). It’s going to happen whether or not they fund us but it would be easier with the latter. And federation is a stepping stone. It can (and will) be enclosed. (As technically it’s built on a Big Tech stack and instances can scale vertically and since we’re failing at setting social safeguards by welcoming Meta, etc.)
Giorno della memoria. Parole che rischiano di essere vuote, se non si capisce davvero cos'abbia significato lo sterminio di massa di milioni di persone. La scorsa estate ho visitato la sinagoga di Plzen, in Repubblica Ceca. Lì ho imparato la storia di quella comunità, che agli inizi del Novecento contava migliaia di persone e dopo lo sterminio soltanto poche decine. E' stata un'occasione per riflettere su un fenomeno che già conoscevo, ma senza che mi avesse toccato personalmente. Essere lì, in quel posto, vedere e leggere le testimonianze dell'epoca, è stato un modo per comprenderlo più a fondo, fare in modo che mi entrasse un po' di più nell'animo: una cosa che dovrebbero fare tutti. Nella sinagoga erano esposte immagini sull'attuale conflitto in Ucraina. Impossibile non accostare i due fenomeni (quello di ieri e quello di oggi) e ignorarne i punti in comune. Ancora più incredibile che, pochi mesi dopo, alcuni discendenti di chi venne ucciso nei campi di sterminio abbiano causato altrettanto dolore e sterminio. Ecco su cosa si riflette viaggiando; ecco perché viaggiare può essere nel mondo di oggi uno strumento in più per conoscere il mondo di ieri e di oggi, ed essere più consapevoli di ciò che e stato e ciò che potrebbe essere di nuovo. Certo, perché questo avvenga occorre viaggiare esplorando, non solo per rilassarsi. Tutto questo a molti potrà sembrare banale, ma a quanto pare dall'attualità, non lo è.
Non tutti sono fatti per adattarsi di continuo al mondo. C'è chi proprio non può, c'è chi si adatta ma somatizza, e c'è chi si è anestetizzato e ormai è già morto anche se sembra avere una sembianza di vita. Bisogna accettare di soffrire un bel po' se non si vuole essere già morti mentre si è ancora in vita. Bisogna essere coscienti di ciò e non averne paura, e così bilanciare bene anestesia e sofferenza. Questo bilanciamento può essere corretto di continuo in modo da trovare momento per momento la soluzione più sopportabile, per poter godere di tutto ciò che invece c'è di buono. Chi accetta di essere onesto con se stesso e di guardare in faccia le proprie stranezze può arrivare a credere di avere un problema mentale al confronto di chi si finge "normale". Tuttavia, a fare la differenza è l'onestà nella continua ricerca del proprio instabile equilibrio.
Domenica, 26 gennaio [1941]... È l’ora fredda, questa: prima che scattino le luci. Qualche bucaneve in giardino. Sì, pensavo: viviamo senza futuro. Questa è la cosa strana: coi nasi schiacciati contro una porta chiusa. ...
As someone who is totally blind, the Fediverse is the only place where I have ever been able to follow people such as photographers, artists, or even those who post pictures of their cats or the food they ate. The reason is that most of them use alt text. They take the time to describe the images that my screen reader can't recognise. Some write the descriptions themselves, and others use tools such as altbot. Some worry that their descriptions aren't good enough, especially when they are new at this. Let me assure you, not only are they good enough, they are extremely appreciated! If the rest of the world thought as you did, it would be a much better place. Don't hesitate to ask if you're unsure of something, but never think that we don't notice your effort.
@nunesdennis My technique is to imagine that I'm sitting in a movie theater next to someone who can't see the screen, and I have to whisper what I see to them so that they can be part of the experience. Of course, I don't pretend that my ALT descriptions are perfect or accurate, but they are an extension of my own expression, with my own flaws, mistakes, and way of describing things. And well, I'm a human, not a machine, so I guess that's part of the homemade charm. 😺
@davidrevoy @nunesdennis also, at minimum, consider that the default is something like "image." So even the difference between "photo" and "screenshot" and "meme" at least provides handles on what they're missing.
Obviously enough detail to be included in the conversation is better & elaboration on what's notable or aesthetic is best. Someone could always ask a question if they were curious, but not if they have insufficient info.
I usually elaborate on why it's nice: see attached
I really appreciate your post Georgina.Before I came here I had no idea of alt txt but now make sure it is always on my photos. I also try to spread the word outside Fediverse.
I've posted this before, but I'm pretty rubbish at remembering alt-txt, but since I followed @PleaseCaptionBot I have no problems, because if I post an image without, it DMs me with a reminder so I can go back and add it 🙂
accessibility benefits everyone. I do not have any vision impairment (yet) but often rely on the alt text to clarify what I am viewing. I am so very grateful to the people who take the time to caption their images.
@Memere I am a seeing person, but I love alt text for the added info or insight into the personality of the poster and what's important to them. Sometimes they contain jokes.
I've shared this post of you because more people need to know that Alt Text and Image Descriptions are not only good but are appreciated by those that rely on them!
The strenght of the Fediverse is based upon it's diversity, and that must include accessibility!
After all it's easy for sighted people to dismiss it when in reality it doesn't take away anything from them if they just write a sentence or two per image.
This is wonderful! Please may I ask - I was just adding some alt text to an image and wondered if there's a convention when the text on the post adequately describes the image or I struggle to describe it again without repetition, is alt text still needed/is it annoying listening to it again, or do you always prefer alt text? Thanks!
@James 🦉 #FBPE 🇪🇺 No. if you describe it, then the alt text really shouldn't be needed. The whole purpose of the alt text is to describe the image, so if that's what you're doing, you don't need to do it twice. However, there may be an exception. Let's say that you have a picture, and "grandma's delicious cake" is written on the picture. Since it's inside the image, a screen reader most likely wouldn't be able to read that without some other extraction/ocr tool. So in that case, you could write the text. Whether you choose to add details "the cake is in a pan, sitting on a large table", is up to you.
@James 🦉 #FBPE 🇪🇺 I actually just saw something very interesting, directly related to our conversation! Someone posted an image with two descriptions. It seemed that he wrote one and then something like Altbot wrote the other. It was fascinating, because while they were describing the same thing, the second was more detailed. Yet either one could have worked and provided the same information. That said, here, the focus was on the image. It wasn't just there in the background with text, so while the double description wasn't technically necessary, it worked.
@Gary Brazzell The only other social platforms I've used are Facebook and Dreamwidth. On Facebook, I've never seen alt tags at all. Dreamwidth is a journalling site, so it's really a different thing entirely. I do love the alt text here, though. I was very surprised when I first saw it, and even more so at how many people use them and even refuse to boost images without them! So it was an extremely wonderful thing to realise. As for accessibility, the Basic Mobile site (not app) of Facebook used to be very accessible. Their shutting it down is what made me come to Friendica. I mostly use it via a client called TweeseCake. I am finding various inaccessible features, or at least ones that cause a lot of a nnoyance, on the main site and intend to write to the Friendica Support group about it. Mastodon seems to be accessible from my glancing at it while reading people's profiles.
This is uplifting. May there be a riddle to honor people with visual impairments who found themselves welcome within the Federation. “Whom does not see, yet has thousands of eyes writing for them?”
@zy @shred @dandylover1 When I get a message in German, the alt text is also in German (for example). It makes it easy to copy and paste into an internet translator.
I have found it helpful when the words are embedded in the picture too. Just go to the alt text and cut and paste.
I'm so happy that it helps people with vision problems.
(I had no idea German would be so important in 2025, but here we are.)
I previously used alt tests only on my Mastodon posts (I post images here only very occasionally), but this kind of comments really convinced me that I should just bite the bullet and write alt texts for Pixelfed images from now on, too. Because that's what I *ought* to be doing.
something I’m never sure about is how much text in alt-text is too much. I generally stay as coincise as possible by describing what’s actually interesting in the image for the conversation, which may include written texts or not. Do you think vision-impaired readers may prefer a more complete description?
@lydiaschoch I find that I will put extra information in the alt text. Joke that's not in the post itself, perhaps. Pointing out what's strange in the picture. Explaining the joke. Something like it's a SPOILER tag you're only going to get if you check the alt text.
@xinit ☕ @Fedo ¶ @Lydia Schoch Wow! What a wonderful idea! Please forgive my ignorance, but is alt text something that sighted readers can see, or is it only available to screen readers? If so, this is one of the few times in which we actually get to have something that the rest of the world doesn't. If not, it's a great way to encourage sighted people to pay attention to the importance of alt text.
all the client applications i see allow anyone to see alt texts, there's a little "alt" button in the corner of the images. i think that does helps a lot for people to remember to put alt texts
@zy You can also follow an alt text not that will remind you when you forget to add alt text. It just sends you a message requesting that you add alt text
I'm so glad it's helpful! It's such an important skill for us to practice, too. It is so heartening to see not just the accessibility itself, but the solidarity—many people won't share a post that lacks alt text. That helps keep it front & center as an expectation rather than a bonus.
@Nat Oleander It's just a pity that if you post about an obscure enough niche topic like I do, it's the more difficult to make image posts perfectly accessible to everyone, the more obscure the topic is. For the more obscure the topic is, the more you have to describe, and the more you have to explain. (Caution: Never put explanations into alt-text! They must go where everyone can access them.)
I currently write the longest image descriptions in the whole Fediverse by a wide margin. But they may not actually be accessible enough, even though I describe all my original images twice.
The short descriptions in the alt-text don't always contain text transcripts, especially not all of them, and being only short descriptions, they aren't full, detailed visual descriptions either. The long descriptions for the same images in the post regularly end up with a five-digit character count. They may not be accessible because they're way too long. But sometimes they're the only place where all text transcripts can be found. And they are the only place where explanations can be found.
So the consequence should be that I quit posting my original images because they're impossible to make perfectly accessible to everyone, at least as long as there is no rock-solid definition for what's actually required in image descriptions in my obscure edge-case. But there isn't even any consensus on whether text that's illegible or that's so tiny that it's basically invisible must be transcribed if it can be sourced.
@Jupiter Rowland @Nat Oleander I'm a bit confused. If you write long descriptions, why wouldn't that help to make your images accessible? Alt text doesn't need to be perfect. It just needs to give us an idea of what is in the image. It's certainly wonderful when more details are given, but even having an idea of what is going on is better than nothing.
@Georgiana Brummell I'd say not everyone would consider almost 1,000 characters of image description in a 1,500-character alt-text accessible. And even fewer people would consider a long image description in the post itself that's tens of thousands of characters long accessible if your screen reader spends an hour or several rambling it down.
My most extreme case is a post with only one image. That one image is described twice like all my halfway recent original images. The short description in the alt-text is a bit over 1,400 characters long which barely leaves any room for the note that there is also a long description in the post itself. That long description is over 60,000 characters long. I'm not kidding. It took me two full days from getting up to going to bed to research for it and write it.
Now, there are a few dozen bits and pieces of text all over the image. At the resolution at which I've posted the image, two of them are ever so barely legible for sighted people. They're on a large logo on a building. Four more, two of them on that logo, too, two more on a sign on an easel, are illegible, but still visible. At least more on signs inside the building are visible, but they can't easily be identified as text. All the others are so tiny that they're invisible. It takes the long image description to even know where they are, for example, on the control panels of teleporters.
And yet, they are all within the borders of the image. And I can transcribe them. I can't read them in the image, but I can go to the place shown in the image and take closer looks.
Unfortunately, the rule or guideline that any and all text in an image must be transcribed verbatim does not take into consideration text that can't be read in the image, but that can be sourced and thus transcribed by whoever posts the image. No confirmation, no exception. And so I have to assume that I have to transcribe illegible text as well. And so I do transcribe them all.
But there's no way for me to put all these text transcripts into the alt-text, not if I want to keep Mastodon, Misskey and their forks from chopping it off at the 1,500-character mark. I'd also have to explain where all these pieces of text are, after all. And so the text transcripts are only available in the 60,000-character monster of a long image description.
It isn't really accessible to expect blind users to have their screen readers ramble and ramble and ramble for hours, just to get information that should actually belong into the alt-text which, in turn, shouldn't be longer than 200 characters.
On the other hand, it doesn't really seem accessible to me if I expect people to ask me to describe things in the image for them. It rather feels sloppy, if not out-right ableist to not describe everything that someone could possibly want to know right away.
The problem with my images is that they're renderings from very obscure 3-D virtual worlds. This means that nobody knows what anything in these images looks like unless they can see these images. This, in turn, means that I cannot expect anyone to know what something in my images looks like anyway. They don't.
At the same time, I can't expect everyone to not care about my images. In fact, I expect the very topic of 3-D virtual worlds that actually exist to make people curious. At this point, it doesn't matter what's important in my images within the context of the post. Sighted people will go explore the new and unknown world by taking closer looks at all the big and small details in the image.
But blind or visually-impaired people may be just as curious. They may want the same chance to explore this new world by experiencing what's in that one image. Denying them the same chances as sighted people is ableist. But giving them this chance requires an absolutely titanic image description.
Sure, I describe lots of details which a sighted person can't possibly recognise when looking at the image, especially not at the resolution of the image as I've posted it. But I simply can't keep telling blind or visually-impaired people that certain things in the image can't be recognised due to the image resolution. It feels lazy, like weaseling out. I mean, I can see all these details. Not in the image, but where the image was made, simply by walking closer to them or moving the camera closer to them.
If there are two dark objects inside a building that may or may not be plants, but that can't be identified as plants by looking at the image, why shouldn't I describe them as follows: "On the sides of the teleport panel, there are two identical açaí palms in square terracotta pots with wide rims. Like the other potted plants, these mostly dark green plants with long pointy leaves are kept at an indoor-compatible size, namely about three and a half metres or eleven and a half feet tall. Also, like the other potted plants, they are made of only four flat surfaces with partially transparent pictures of the plant on them, arranged in angles of 45 degrees to one another."
If there's room for improvement in my image descriptions, I improve my future image descriptions and declare my past image descriptions outdated. In fact, the 60,000-character-long description is outdated because it's bad style to describe dimension using measures. Instead, dimensions should be described by comparing them with something everyone is familiar with like body parts.
Right now, by the way, I'm upping my game at describing avatars, using rules and guidelines for describing people which I've discovered over the last few months. The last time I've described an avatar, I've done so in about 7,000 characters, but according to my new discoveries, I may have missed something.
However, I can't go into so much detail while still making my image descriptions short enough that a screen reader can read through them in under a minute.
@Jupiter Rowland @Nat Oleander Oh my goodness! Now I see what you mean. Even as a lover of nineteenth-century writing and proper English, that's long, especially for alt text!
I always try to add Alt Text ... and I just discovered that on Pixelfed you can switch on a setting that forces you to add Alt Text. Great idea so I've turned it on on my Pixelfed account.
can someone explain to me why we need a separate image sharing site when mastodon already has this feature? I am confused, as I always have been about why insta needed to exist in the first place.
Something to learn about the Fediverse is that it’s not about “need” it’s about desire. No one needs to make anything but if devs desire to make it, then it will be made—simple as that.
Mastodon may have some elements of image-sharing but that’s a secondary feature. Even then, its image-sharing abilities are limited and will always be subservient to being a Twitter-like microblog.
Pixelfed’s primary purpose is image-sharing, and text is secondary. In fact, you can’t just share text in Pixelfed—text-only posts are filtered out.
Many people also prefer the UI/UX of Pixelfed over Mastodon, and their preference is simply their preference. They won’t use Mastodon just because Mastodon can share images.
Nevertheless, Mastodon is made better when it can communicate with different ActivityPub-enabled platforms.
with all the folks lauding the move to #Pixelfed I'm gonna have to set a hard limit - the creator is transmisic and a gaslighter, and demonstrably gives zero shits about safety and ethics.
@bouncinglime @KristinHenry Multiple times, you’ve tried to hijack my mentions by sending this exact same message. The last time I replied to you, you did not reply back.
I now regard you as a spammer, and I don’t tolerate spam.
@KristinHenry Yep, they sent me this exact message previously. They did not reply when I responded to them. And when someone behaves like that, it’s downright spammy.
@snrub Yeah, I’ve seen it. It’s got a nice UI but I’m paranoid about giving any web app my private key. So until there’s a mobile app, I’m not logging in.
No offense. But, the interaction on these services is next to none. Mastodon is limited enough. But, Pixelfed and so on is next to zero. Which shows me that even the people using Mastodon aren't using these other services. Noble cause? Perhaps. But, I would hate to be the one investing time and money.
@LScottSpencer Sorry, what do you mean interaction is next to none? So far today, I have over 1,600 interactions on this post alone. Hell, you’re talking to me right now.
@LScottSpencer Well, Pixelfed just released its mobile app last week. It takes time to build a community there, but it double in size over the last month – so it’s coming along nicely.
Peertube is a different story because video is quite expensive, which means the bulk of server owners limit registrations on their servers – which also limits the network effect.
All that said, you can build a bustling community on all those services but the skillset is quite different from a service like Threads. You cannot depend on figuring out with the algorithm likes, and thus scale your content for maximum engagement. Instead, you have to take the pre-algorithmic approach of building relationships with people instead of hoping a bunch of randos will just suddenly find your content in their feed.
Also, scrolling through your posts I can see that interaction on most is pretty low. When you post specifically about fediverse stuff, it's higher. That's a VERY specific interest group that makes sense on THIS very niche platform.
It’s not about number of interactions. It’s about talking to people who care.
You see, I know exactly what to say to get stuff to go viral on the Fediverse, but most of the time I choose not to. And actually, I often delete stuff because it goes viral.
The few people who comment on my posts about campy sci-fi and horror movies? Those comments mean something to me.
Less is less. And of course talking about the fediverse gets views on Mastodon. Give me a break dude. I've been around for a while. That nonsense ain't gonna ride with me. You know the difference between 300 million and 2 million. If you're happy, that's fine. Don't spin any yarn for me. Cause that's what you're doing.
Tech noob here - is Pixelfed a separate app, or somehow part of the basic mastodon view? I'd like to see some screenshots of how it looks in use. (^_^)*
I would also love to figure out how to be able to write longer posts in here.
Is there a way for me to connect all of my accounts for these (and other Fediverse services) under one user-account roof while the services and instances all remaining decentralized)?
Thanks for letting me know. I wish I could contribute to the effort. I'm not much of a programmer though. I'm more into user testing, GUI critiquing, visual composition critiquing, etc. Basically, if the people working on that effort need someone with a good eye for visual layouts and critiquing user experience, I'd be happy to help them out with that!
C'è una resistenza forte da parte delle Big Tech a far scoprire alle persone il fediverso: Facebook, Instagram, Twitter e anche Reddit bloccano i post e i commenti che fanno riferimento ai rispettivi concorrenti del fediverso. Se da un lato questo fa arrabbiare, dall'altro fa capire che conoscono le potenzialità delle altre piattaforme e ne sono spaventate. Speriamo che anche le persone comuni ne riconoscano i meriti tanto quanto Zuckerberg e Musk.
Settimane fa ho organizzato in liste i numerosi account che seguo. Ci ho messo tante ore: tra i «Fediversi» (Activity Pub + Diaspora) e Bluesky, sono 568 gli account che seguo.
Una volta organizzato, utilizzarlo è diventato un vero piacere. Gli unici limiti, davvero trascurabili, sono la poca compatibilità con Moshidon (ma ci sono Fedilab e Raccoon a supplire quando Moshidon fa i capricci), la lentezza del server che gentilmente @Signor Amministratore ⁂ fornisce gratis (sia gloria a lui!), e qualche baco di Friendica che vale la pena di aggirare con un paio di trucchetti.
Così, questo è diventato di gran lunga il mio account principale, tant'è vero che sono stato rimproverato di essere ormai poco presente in M1. Alla fine, qui metto tutto ciò che più mi piace fra le cose che trovo in rete, oltre alle mie riflessioni come questa. Di solito sono cose che è bello condividere perché mi sembrano belle o stimolanti.
I miei account Mastodon
Per quanto riguarda l'account Bronson Segreto, ci metto tutto ciò che m'interessa condividere e che non rientra nelle due categorie che finiscono qui in Polibronson. Di solito sono notizie particolari, conversazioni rapide, curiosità varie. I follower da Mastodon Uno che mi sono giocato stupidamente, a parte poche eccezioni non sono più tornati. Evidentemente Mastodon Uno è diventato così grande da bastarsi da solo. Non so se sia un pregio.
Così arriviamo appunto alla nota dolente: il mio primo account Bronson che si trova nell'immenso Mastodon Uno. Ci seguo tantissimi account interessanti, e persone piacevolissime mi seguono solo lì, ma in pratica ci faccio solo tanto lurking, al punto che mi hanno rimproverato di essere poco attivo. Continuerò a usarlo per il lurking e a metterci tutto ciò che non finisce negli altri account: un po' d'ironia, cose leggere e poco altro. Se qualcuno ha suggerimenti su che cosa metterci, sono qui in ascolto. Di sicuro non voglio né chiuderlo né trasferirlo.
La radicalizzazione di Mark Zuckerberg, l'assalto all'informazione e alla democrazia della nuova oligarchia tech americana, addio a Facebook e Instagram: è ora di ri-costruire la nostra casa digitale.
Profitez des vidéos et de la musique que vous aimez, mettez en ligne des contenus originaux, et partagez-les avec vos amis, vos proches et le monde entier.
Profitez des vidéos et de la musique que vous aimez, mettez en ligne des contenus originaux, et partagez-les avec vos amis, vos proches et le monde entier.
I’ve just completed my first billing cycle for my single-user #mastodon instance. For thise interested, here is a breakdown of the monthly costs:
VPS: £4.10 (inc. IPs, SSD, bandwidth, backups) Object storage: £0.35 (inc. media cache, remote backups) Transactions: £0.09 ☁️ CDN: £0.00 🕸️ Domain name: £0.75 (I already own this & use it for other things, but included it here for completeness)
💰 Total: £5.29
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I don’t typically follow hashtags, but I’m not sure that you need to be following an account to be able to follow its hashtags. For example, if I search for the hashtag #introduction, I find posts from users that I do not follow & have never interacted with.
I still don’t entirely understand how federarion works.
@neil @jgordon Looking at the technical documentation (which I probably should have done before now), it looks like hashtags act as a filter on your federated timeline, which basically contains posts from all users who have interacted with you or one of your posts.
@justine @neil @jgordon being on a single user instance myself, i would like to say that with a web/pwa mobile client like #phanpy you can have a column following multiple hashtags coming from another instance (say, from mastodon.social)
I have a managed single user instance with the excellent @mastohost and your costs are comparable; a quid or so cheaper than mine as you may expect. In both cases, very reasonably priced for what we're getting.
@paul I started off using @mastohost — it’s a fantastic service & @hugo is great — but the size of my media cache meant that I needed the Star Plan (≈£18.50), which was overkill for a single user instance.
@mastohost @hugo I suspect self-hosting a mastodon server could just be within the limits of my range as a tinkerer, but I've no need to test that hypothesis for now. That's a really nice £ saving you're making for giving it a whirl.
I'm paying a bit more for mine, but I also use the space for some other things, and it's still an absolute bargain. Not everyone has the knowledge, money, and spoons to run their own instance (my knowledge is largely self-taught), but I can't help but feel that those who can do it, should. @Lazarou
@keefeglise The official docs (docs.joinmastodon.org/admin/pr…) were reasonable when I did it, but that was starting from having an existing place to run a server and experience of running similar services in the past. What’s your main goal ? I might be able to find a more tailored guide than the basic docs if that’d help
After a week of tinkering I have, I think, finally finished standing up my own #Mastodon instance. I was surprised by how straight forward it was and I thought it might be useful to share my approach, for those who may be considering doing the same.
@tom I don't want to create work for anyone. I just find the possibilities fascinating. Was wondering if someone who is not a computer person but who has 'played around' with computers and likes a challenge could do this.
«Sui maggiori quotidiani italiani di oggi la notizia principale è una foto che i quotidiani americani ignorano, e che gli stessi articoli spiegano essere insignificante, una foto di quel che è sempre successo». bsky.app/profile/sofri.it/post…
La #sovranitàdigitale dovrebbe essere l'unico mantra possibile per l #Europa. Il club di miliardari alla corte di #trump non ha neanche il pudore di mostrarsi terzi rispetto ad un #potere che si fa vanto di scene come quella sotto. Ma le nostre #vite così legate al digitale sono in mano a questi signori del commercio, dello spazio, dei social. #politica dove sei?
Isabella Rossellini dopo la nomination all'Oscar: «In passato per tutti ero la figlia di Roberto Rossellini e Ingrid Bergman: oggi li vorrei qui con me per festeggiare»
> Dopo la prima candidatura nella sua carriera per Conclave, l'attrice scrive sui social: «Oggi, con questa gioia, la mia mente non può fare a meno di soffermarsi nell’aldilà a David Lynch»
Judging a post by number of interactions is the wrong metric to look at.
It’s not about number of interactions. It’s about talking to people who care.
You see, I know exactly what to say to get stuff to go viral on the Fediverse, but most of the time I choose not to. And actually, I often delete stuff *specifically* because it goes viral and I don't have the emotional bandwidth to deal with it that day.
On the other hand, the few people who comment on my posts about campy sci-fi and horror movies? Those comments really mean something to me. RE: mastodon.social/users/LScottSp…
@atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org Also, scrolling through your posts I can see that interaction on most is pretty low. When you post specifically about fediverse stuff, it's higher.
Something to learn about the Fediverse is that it’s not about “need” it’s about desire. No one needs to make anything but if devs desire to make it, then it will be made—simple as that.
Mastodon may have some elements of image-sharing but that’s a secondary feature. Even then, its image-sharing abilities are limits and will always be subservient to being a Twitter-like microblog.
Pixelfed’s primary purpose is image-sharing, and text is secondary. In fact, you can’t just share text in Pixelfed—text-only posts are filtered out.
Many people also prefer the UI/UX of Pixelfed over Mastodon, and their preference is simply their preference. They won’t use Mastodon just because Mastodon can share images.
Nevertheless, Mastodon is made better when it can communicate with different ActivityPub-enabled platforms. RE: mastodon.nz/users/SimonCHulse/…
@atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org can someone explain to me why we need a separate image sharing site when mastodon already has this feature? I am confused, as I always have been about why insta needed to exist in the first place.
The Fediverse is designed to give ordinary people control of the network. All of its traffic flows directly from one cheap-to-run server to another.
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Object storage: £0.35
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Poliverso - notizie dal Fediverso ⁂
in reply to Massimiliano Polito • •Ciao @Max spero che i tuoi esperimenti abbiano portato buoni frutti
Nel frattempo ti consiglio la lettura di questa guida a Friendica:
informapirata.it/2024/07/25/w-…
Ricordati sempre che appena ti iscrivi, non avrai praticamente connessioni con altri utenti e quindi non ti vedrà nessuno. L'unico modo che hai per "esistere" è interloquire con gli altri, rispondendo ai loro messaggi con messaggi consoni.
informapirata
2024-07-25 16:48:23
Massimiliano Polito
in reply to Poliverso - notizie dal Fediverso ⁂ • •@Poliverso - notizie dal Fediverso ⁂ @Max
Volevo rispondere a te ma ho risposto a me stesso.
Ci sono ancora delle limatine da dare qua e là... 😁
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in reply to Massimiliano Polito • •@Massimiliano Polito di limatine bisognerà darne sicuramente tante: Friendica è il software social più completo di funzionalità, ma non brilla per immediatezza... 😅
Friendica is not friendly... 🤣
@Max
Massimiliano Polito
in reply to Poliverso - notizie dal Fediverso ⁂ • •@Poliverso - notizie dal Fediverso ⁂ @Max
Intendevo che dovrò dare parecchie limatine alle mie competenze su questo social, a me Friendica va bene così com'è 😁
Polibronson 🦋
in reply to Massimiliano Polito • •@max
Non è perfetto e alcuni malfunzionamenti sono fastidiosi. Però per ogni problema c'è un artificio per aggirarlo, e alla fine Friendica è talmente potente che le (o gli?) si perdona tutto.
@Poliverso - notizie dal Fediverso ⁂ @Max
Massimiliano Polito
in reply to Massimiliano Polito • •Grazie, ho già letto un po' di cose, è da qualche sera che sto "studiando" l'argomento "fediverse". Adesso devo fare un po' di pratica se no mi riempio la testa di teoria e mi manca tutto il resto.
Poi devo completare il profilo... ce n'è da fare. 😁😁😁
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Massimiliano Polito
in reply to aimee80 • •@aimee80
Ho letto che sei anche su Mastodon, quindi questo mio commento lo leggi anche da lì?
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Poliverso - notizie dal Fediverso ⁂
in reply to aimee80 • •@aimee80 Come puoi vedere dalle immagini, devi copiare il link originale del tuo post Friendica, che troverai in corrispondenza delle indicazioni dell'ora del messaggio. Poi Devi andare su mastodon e cliccare o sulla lente di ingrandimento oppure sulla funzione esplora, incollare quello che hai copiato all'interno della Casella di ricerca e premere invio. In questo modo vedrai il tuo post dentro mastodon
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