The inflow of Brazilians to Bluesky continues, Firefish dies another death, and more.
[share author='Laurens Hof' profile='https://fediversereport.com/author/laurenshof/' avatar='https://poliverso.org/photo/206608119366e42c304ffac007248590-5.jpeg?ts=1734620326' link='https://fediversereport.com/last-week-in-fediverse-ep-83/' posted='2024-09-08 18:23:42' guid='08552256-1db60ec771464850-0985b522' message_id='https://fediversereport.com/last-week-in-fediverse-ep-83/']Last Week in Fediverse โ ep 83
Bluesky and Brazil continues to be a great match, and lots of other smaller news items.
Programming note: Iโm switching the release day for this weekly newsletter to a Wednesday. Over the last year and a half Iโve spend my free Sundays writing this, and this is not sustainable in the long term. So look for the next edition to arrive on Wednesday the 18th.
Bluesky and Brazil
Bluesky remains highly popular among Brazilians as an alternative to X, that got banned in the country last week. Bluesky has added 3 million accounts since the ban went into effect just over a week ago. When I reported on it last week Bluesky had added 1 million accounts. Of these new accounts, around 85% are from Brazil. The popularity of Bluesky in Brazil also shows up in both politics and the media: President Lula, his party PT Brazil, the Supreme Court, and House of Representatives all have their accounts validated by using their domain as their handle. The media is also paying attention, one of the most popular news programs in Brazil, Jornal Nacional, showed their Bluesky handle during the show. Some of the biggest newspapers such as Folha de S.Paulo and Correio Braziliense covered Bluesky as well.
What stands out to me about both articles is that they do not mention Threads. Threads have not made any data available regarding the impact of the Brazilian ban on X on the platform. While Threads is likely to still get a large number of signups simply due to its massive size, it is not part of the conversation in the way that Bluesky is for Brazil.
The inflow of new people also shows up for the Trust and Safety team. In an update Blueskyโs head of Trust and Safety, Aaron Rodericks, shares that the team normally receives about 20k reports per week, a number that skyrocketed to 270k reports, predominantly in Portugese.
The News
Firefish has died another death. This February, the original creator of Firefish Kainoa transferred ownership to the maintainer naskya, without naskya being informed beforehand. Naskya has been maintaining Firefish alone for the last 7 months, while noting that this them taking over the project as unwillingly. Naskya says that this is unsustainable, putting the project in maintanance mode. IceShrimp provides migration instructions for server admins who want to transfer from Firefish to IceShrimp. Iโve got fond memories of the time period during which Firefish worked well, which is sadly a while ago now. It enabled me to build a community in a way that Iโve found much more difficult to do on Mastodon, and the community that Iโve build during the Firefish period is still one that feels like my closest community on Mastodon.
Truefans is a podcasting app that is building ActivityPub integration. It gives you the possibility to create a fediverse account as well (truefans.social), and activities that you take in the Truefans app (listen/comment/follow) are broadcasted into the fediverse.
The IFTAS Moderator Survey for 2024 is live. Last yearโs survey led to an extensive report on the actual needs that fediverse moderators have.
Forgejoโs monthly update: โFederation is getting useful. There is now more than preliminary background work, and the first exciting things could be tried out by users. The work is not near the goal yet.โ
The SocialCG held their monthly meeting, and decided on two new Task Forces: a task force to update the website activitypub.rocks, and a Trust and Safety Task Force. The goal for the website task force is to make sure that the activitypub.rocks website is a better entry point, as it is badly out of date, with the last post from January 2021. The Trust and Safety team from Threads has already expressed interest in participating in the task force.
Trending topics are a feature that is highly sought after by the Brazilian community, and the community has build two versions themselves: as a browser extension and as a separate site.
Peertube continues to make inroads with livestreaming, especially via the livechat plugin, which got a significant upgrade again.
Bluesky continues the tradition of 3rd party clients implementing features before the official clients does: this time the Skeets app already supports displaying videos, even though the feature is not released yet and only the developers can post (otherwise invisible) videos.
The developerโs site atproto.com got a major overhaul, including a Quick Start guide that showcases how to build a complete and different type of application on atproto, an extensive article โATProto for distributed systems engineersโ and more.
A research paper โ An evidence-based and critical analysis of the Fediverse decentralization promises โ provides a critical analysis of the extend that the fediverse can deliver on the promises of decentralisation. Worth checking out, I also find the framing of โtechno-romanticismโ as to explain the gap between what is promised and what is actually happening in the fediverse.
The Dutch coalition of public organisations PublicSpaces is starting PeerTube Spaces to promote the usage of Peertube as as suitable alternative for public organisations.
The (unofficial) atprotocol.dev community held a talk with the creator of event planner Smoke Signal, the video recording is available here. The recording from the previous talk, by the creator of frontpage.fyi is available as well. This Thursday is the next event, โFrom Feeds to Labelers with รndra Rininslandโ
The Links
- WeDistribute โ A Brief History of the Fediverse Symbol
- Making a Mastodon bot with Google Sheets and Apps Scripts.
- Email platform Buttondown has added the option to automatically cross-post to Bluesky.
- Hachydermโs Introduction to Mastodon Moderation: The Report Feature and Moderator Actions.
- Thoughts on the ๐ฐ News Feed โ by XBlock and News feed developer รndra Rininsland.
- This weekโs ActivityPub software updates.
- Fediverse for government organisations, a follow-up.
- Nostr somehow managed to get a billboard advertising Nostr close to where I live.
- A Bluesky client that makes Bluesky look like the old phpBB forums.
- Brazil, Bluesky & the Fediverse, by Newsmastโs Michael Foster.
- Brazilian Tech YouTuber Gabs Ferreira did a long interview with Bluesky CTO Paul Frazee.
Thatโs all for this week, thanks for reading!
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People are really good at complaining about stuff that is both #OpenSource and free! They donโt pay for it, or even try to help out, but they still have the audacity to demand things be done in a certain way or require support.
Thatโs rich.
Thatโs privilege.
Itโs disgusting.
Itโs burning out amazing inventors and kind people who donate their time and often own money to give something back.
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Alessandro Giuli รจ il nuovo Ministro della Cultura e da Wikipedia scompare la categoria โControversieโ
Dalla pagina Wikipedia di Alessandro Giuli รจ scomparsa la categoria Controversia dopo la sua nomina a Ministro della Cultura al posto di Gennaro Sโฆ
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Apriamo la serie: #burocraziadimerda
Sono sicuro che chiunque possa raccontare storie affascinanti, oggi vi racconto la mia:
Sto comprando l'auto nuova (ero in noleggio operativo, ma ora me la compro proprio perchรฉ mi sono trovato benissimo e mai piรน tornerรฒ indietro con le termiche, ma su questo scriverรฒ altri post ๐ )
Premessa: ho la Carta di identitร scaduta, ma ho un documento di riconoscimento EQUIPOLLENTE ovvero la PATENTE DI GUIDA valido a fini legali ai sensi del
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Purtroppo non posso cambiare concessionaria perchรฉ il mezzo elettrico che prendo รจ d'occasione a km0, altrimenti li avrei giร mandati a quel paese da quel dรฌ
Questo succede per davvero a Roma per la #CIE, ho un amica che ha prenotato e le hanno dato appuntamento tra 9 mesi, come un parto
roma.corriere.it/notizie/cronaโฆ
Carta d'identitร elettronica a Roma, un miraggio: appuntamenti fino a dodici mesi
Urbano Barberini: ยซOfferti Tivoli ad aprile o Poli ad agostoยป. Ma con gli open day possono bastare 24 oreManuela Pelati (Corriere della Sera)
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Reti decentralizzate come strumento per combattere la disinformazione e la censura: le reti federali e libere, collaborative e aperte
(CONTENUTO AD ACCESSO LIMITATO)
Analisi delle opportunitร e i limiti delle reti decentralizzate come risorsa per superare i problemi dei social tradizionali e della resilienza di queste reti come strumento per combattere la disinformazione e la censura
link.springer.com/chapter/10.1โฆ
Decentralised Networks as a Tool for Fighting Disinformation and Censorship: The Fediverse and Free, Collaborative and Open Networks
The presence of disinformation and hate speech has multiplied on several centralised social networks. Since its purchase by Elon Musk in 2022, Twitter (renamed X) has taken controversial measures to increase profits, at the cost of degrading the contโฆRamรณn Salaverrรญa (Springer Nature Switzerland)
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Ah bella... ma te pare che se gli itagliani nun an fatto na piega co er Bunga Bunga o a nipote de Mubbarak, se scioccano se er Struffolo se fร una come te?
Risatone proprio!
Piuttosto grazzie daa distrazzione che ner mentre famo passร n'artra legge bavajo pe nun fร pubblicร le ordinanze d'arresto ๐
ilfattoquotidiano.it/2024/09/0โฆ
La replica di Boccia dopo lโintervista di Sangiuliano: โNon sono io a esercitare ricatti
Questa volta ha atteso diverse ore prima di intervenire sui socialF. Q. (Il Fatto Quotidiano)
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Il tweet di Durov sui prossimi cambiamenti in Telegram
๐ Telegram ha raggiunto 10 milioni di abbonati paganti. 10 milioni di persone stanno ora usufruendo di Telegram Premium!
๐ Oggi, stiamo introducendo nuove funzionalitร e ne stiamo eliminando alcune obsolete.
โ Abbiamo rimosso la funzionalitร Persone vicine, che era utilizzata da meno dello 0,1% degli utenti di Telegram, ma aveva problemi con bot e truffatori.
๐๏ธ Al suo posto, lanceremo "Aziende vicine", che metterร in mostra aziende legittime e verificate. Queste aziende saranno in grado di mostrare cataloghi di prodotti e accettare pagamenti senza problemi.
โ๏ธ Abbiamo anche disabilitato i nuovi caricamenti multimediali su Telegraph, il nostro strumento di blogging autonomo, che sembra essere stato utilizzato in modo improprio da attori anonimi.
โ๏ธ Mentre il 99,999% degli utenti di Telegram non ha nulla a che fare con la criminalitร , lo 0,001% coinvolto in attivitร illecite crea una cattiva immagine per l'intera piattaforma, mettendo a rischio gli interessi dei nostri quasi miliardi di utenti.
โ Ecco perchรฉ quest'anno ci impegniamo a trasformare la moderazione su Telegram da un'area di critica a un'area di lode.
https://x.com/durov/status/1832054680899215647
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Dimissioni Sangiuliano, Alessandro Giuli nuovo ministro della Cultura
@Politica interna, europea e internazionale
Dimissioni Sangiuliano, Alessandro Giuli nuovo ministro della Cultura ร Alessandro Giuli il nuovo ministro della Cultura: lโattuale presidente del MAXXI, infatti, giurerร stasera al Quirinale, alle ore 19.00, sostituendo cosรฌ il dimissionario Gennaro Sangiuliano. โIl Presidente della Repubblica,
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Il dossier dell'FBI rivela la guerra psicologica segreta di Putin in Europa
Secondo le forze dell'ordine statunitensi, i responsabili dell'informazione russa hanno individuato nella Germania un bersaglio particolarmente facile per l'influenza di Mosca.
politico.eu/article/fbi-dossieโฆ
FBI dossier reveals Putinโs secret psychological warfare in Europe
Russian information warriors identified Germany as a particularly easy target for Moscowโs influence, U.S. law enforcement said.Jakob Hanke Vela (POLITICO)
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Molto probabilmente, secondo me, gli ottimi youtuber Massimo Mazzucco, Francesco Toscano, Nicolai Lilin, Giorgio Bianchi, ecc. faranno parte del dossier di 277 pagine.
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The latest alphas of Room made significant improvements in KMP support, allowing you to remove a bunch of the workarounds that had to be applied before. Getting neater and neater!
Here's an example of a PR going from alpha05 to alpha07:
github.com/zsmb13/EkspenseTrakโฆ
Update to Room 2.7.0-alpha07 by zsmb13 ยท Pull Request #1 ยท zsmb13/EkspenseTrakker
Contribute to zsmb13/EkspenseTrakker development by creating an account on GitHub.GitHub
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Il fediverso non รจ meno interessante da usare rispetto a un social tradizionale, semplicemente manca di tutti quegli elementi atti a renderti dipendenti da esso. Ecco, รจ questa la differenza
Il fediverso รจ uno strumento, nei social media tradizionali lo strumento sei tu
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insomma, forse dipende dal tema, ma a me sembra che ci siano meno contenuti. Nella mia esperienza รจ anche una cosa positiva perchรฉ mi lascia spazio per piรน temi, e cosรฌ posso allargare le mie vedute.
Sui contenuti video, perรฒ, siamo quasi a zero.
Cioรจ, il fediverso รจ strutturalmente meglio, รจ interessante, ma non mi accontenterei di questo stato di cose, continuerei a promuoverlo attivamente.
E la dipendenza, beh... quella credo di averla lo stesso anche qui
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Aggiornamento #projecteuler
Visto che siamo in 16(๐ข) a giocare con #crystallang, alla fine ho pensato di raccogliere le soluzioni in un repo su framagit!
Non che le mie soluzioni siano particolarmente originali ed esemplari ma, magari possono essere utili, chissร ! Condividere inoltre potrebbe aiutarmi a trovare la spinta per andare avanti senza mollare subito ๐
Qualche soluzione รจ anche in C (volevo vedere se ricordavo qualcosina dopo molti anni ๐ )
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considerata "l'amicizia" di #crystallang e #ruby sto aggiungendo anche qualche scriptino in Ruby appunto.
Instead of algorithms why don't we create a map of Lemmy?
lemmy.world/post/19421051
submitted by Danterious to fediverse8 points | 10 commentscross-posted from: lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/27216373
Instead of focusing of creating good algorithms to push certain content to users why donโt we focus on creating a good map that allows users to find the kind of content they want more easily?
I found this website that created a map of reddit with different countries for different topics an
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Sarebbero saltate 2 squadre di guardie
Io avrei perso il posto
Avremmo una poco simpatica lettera da un team di avvocati.
Il tutto nel giro di poche ore.
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ma... ma..
grande!!! ๐ช๐ช๐ช
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Meglio utilizzare la 0.1.0-alpha20 in cui ho apportato alcune correzioni, specialmente per evitare di inviare erroneamente dei messaggi destinati a un account che non si segue.
Il prossimo obiettivo, per chi se lo stesse chiedendo, รจ la gestione della media gallery (creazione, modifica e cancellazione di foto e album) con possibilitร di inserire nei post come allegato un'immagine giร presente nella gallery. Vediamo nel weekend quanto tempo riesco a trovare ๐
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Verso un'Europa Nero-Bruna?
Verso un'Europa Nero-Bruna?
ย Dopo una primavera ed un'estate di elezioni, ed in vista di un autunno che si preannuncia altrettanto gravido di scelte politiche, alcune ...cronachedicambiamento.blogspot.com
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Capisco dai commenti che non รจ di questo che si sta parlando, ma รจ comunque un termine che non ho mai apprezzato nรฉ visto come positivo
Il #codiceDellaStrage potrebbe rendere illegittime le corsie #ciclabili
#matteoSalvini continua la sua battaglia contro i comuni che cercano di togliere spazio alle #auto e diminuire la pericolositร delle strade.
Molti sono contro le corsie ciclabili, ma un conto รจ pensare a come realizzarle meglio, un altro รจ eliminare uno strumento usato in tutta Europa e oltre.
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open.online/2024/09/03/nuovo-cโฆ
Nuovo Codice della strada, il pasticcio delle piste ciclabili: ยซDovremo cancellarne a centinaiaยป - Open
Il divieto di bike lanes "leggere" rischia di far saltare quasi 80 chilometri di piste esistenti solo a Milano. L'appello dei Comuni a Salvini: ยซModifiche al testoยปDiego Messini (GOL Impresa Sociale)
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Raga, dobbiamo fร quarcosa pe aiutร a Renzi che come ce fร vince lui nessuno mai! ๐
open.online/2024/09/04/sondaggโฆ
ยซCon Renzi si perdeยป: il sondaggio del Fatto sull'alleanza, addio a un elettore su quattro - Open
Il 59% dellโelettorato complessivo si dice โcontrarioโ allโalleanza elettorale con Italia VivaAlba Romano (GOL Impresa Sociale)
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techcrunch.com/2024/09/03/blueโฆ
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Bluesky continues to soar, adding 2M more new users in a matter of days | TechCrunch
As new users downloaded the app, Bluesky jumped to becoming the app to No. 1 in Brazil over the weekend, ahead of Meta's X competitor, Instagram Threads.Sarah Perez (TechCrunch)
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Ve regalamo na carta precaricata co โฌ500 pe fร a spesa, perรฒ prometteteme che nun ce fate l'abbitudine ar POS! ๐
Gli aventi diritto sรฒ quelli co l'Isee basso e che sรฒ armeno 3 in casa, quindi le coppie de froci senza fiji e i vecchi inutili s'attaccano
Rientrano invece tassisti e balneari, basta che avete pargoli. Daje! โ ๐ฆ
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Carta Dedicata a te 2024, al via dal 9 settembre: a chi spetta, quando arriva e come ottenere i 500 euro
Dal 9 settembre 2024 parte l'attivazione della carta Dedicata a te da 500 euroย per l'acquisto di beni alimentari di prima necessitร , carburante e abbonamenti ai trasporti pubblici. Per ottenere la social card non serve presentare domanda online.Luca Pons (Fanpage)
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La newsletter di @fsfe con il Caso Apple, i Finanziamenti per il Software Libero, YH4F e il Progetto ZOOOM
Supportare il Software Libero in Europa dopo la decisione EU di bloccare i finanziamenti alla #NGI, e la causa di #Apple contro la Commissione Europea.
#YH4F ha ottenuto un nuovo sponsor e l'edizione 2024 รจ ora nella fase finale, mentre il progetto #ZOOOM รจ terminato.
fsfe.org/news/nl/nl-202409.it.โฆ
Caso Apple +++ Finanziamenti per il Software Libero +++ YH4F +++ Progetto ZOOOM - FSFE
Settembre รจ arrivato con la nostra newsletter. Continuiamo a supportare il Software Libero in Europa dopo la decisione EU di bloccare i finanziamenti alla ...FSFE - Free Software Foundation Europe
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Chiudete subito la conversazione mandando loro questo schema.
Problema risolto.
Aspetta... allora anche questo รจ un problema. Quindi dovrei mandarmi da solo lo schema?
Ci penso.
#tartapazzo #soluzioni #schemicomodi #haiunproblema? #ciapaloschema #cani #cana #eanchegatti
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Vuoi invitare qualcuno su Poliversity? Alla pagina poliversity.it/invites puoi generare un link d'invito!
Ma la differenza tra inviare un link d'invito e inviare il link di iscrizione standard poliversity.it/auth/sign_up รจ che con il link d'invito l'utente invitato saprร che รจ il tuo account ad averlo invitato.
Tuttavia sappi che anche noi amministratori lo sapremo.
Pertanto, se non vuoi farci sapere che un certo utente l'hai invitato tu, non usare i link d'invito! ๐
Poliversity
Poliversity รจ una comunitร dedicata alla ricerca scientifica e al giornalismo, all'universitร e all'istruzione ed รจ nata per promuovere il diritto alla conoscenza e la corretta informazioneMastodon hosted on poliversity.it
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davvero interessante. Quest'ultima parte non l'avevo letta su nessuna guida a mastodon
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Perchรฉ i partiti di destra funzionano cosรฌ bene sui social? Perchรฉ danno al popolo esattamente ciรฒ che vogliono quando sono sui social: essere arrabbiati con qualcuno. E gli algoritmi incentivano proprio questo.
Nello stato federale tedesco del #Thuringia ha vinto l'ultra-destra dell'#AfD specialmente con l'aiuto dei giovani 18-24 anni, un'inversione a U del trend degli ultimi anni che vedeva questa fascia d'etร progressista e verde.
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Indipendenza di Telegram in Discussione: Durov Ammette Contatti con i Servizi Segreti Francesi
Leggi e condividi l'articolo ๐ redhotcyber.com/post/indipendeโฆ
#redhotcyber #hacking #cti #ai #online #it #cybercrime #cybersecurity #technology #news #cyberthreatintelligence #innovation #privacy #engineering #intelligence #intelligenzaartificiale #informationsecurity #ethicalhacking #dataprotection #cybersecurityawareness #cybersecuritytraining #cybersecuritynews #infosecurity
Indipendenza di Telegram in Discussione: Durov Ammette Contatti con i Servizi Segreti Francesi
Pavel Durov, fondatore di Telegram, ammette di aver collaborato con i servizi segreti francesi, sollevando dubbi sull'indipendenza e la riservatezza della piattaforma. Scopri come questa rivelazione potrebbe influenzare il futuro di TelegramRedazione RHC (Red Hot Cyber)
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Stiamo chiudendo gli ultimi dettagli di #ZonaWarpa a Milano (21-22 settembre) e siamo pronti a partire con la comunicazione.
Abbiamo un programma del quale sono molto felice, perchรฉ riflette bene la missione che ci siamo date con Zona Warpa.
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#Germany: Far-right #AfD wins first state vote since WWII
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Results show the far-right AfD winning the election in Thuringia and coming a close second in Saxony. The votes in the two German states are seen as a barometer for the federal election next year.
Germany: Far-right AfD wins first state vote since WWII
Results show the far-right AfD winning the election in Thuringia and coming a close second in Saxony. The votes in the two German states are seen as a barometer for the federal election next year. DW has more.Deutsche Welle
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Elon Muskโs Starlink Defies #Brazil Court Order to Block #X
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The satellite internet service controlled by Elon #Musk is refusing to comply with a court order to block his social network, X, regulators said.
Elon Muskโs Starlink Defies Brazil Court Order to Block X
The satellite internet service controlled by Elon Musk is refusing to comply with a court order to block his social network, X, regulators said.Jack Nicas (The New York Times)
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dorotaC
in reply to Joachim Wiberg • • •This is one side of the coin.
The ther side, as a software creator, you make people dependent on your software. Disruptions and changes disrupt their lives.
Do creators have a responsibility to their users? You seem to say they don't, but this is an arguable answer.
Joachim Wiberg
in reply to dorotaC • • •@dcz I donโt know who you are, but Iโve been a maintainer of #OpenSource software for over two decades.
The license under which I distribute my software packages clearly state the responsibility I have. Personally I go above and beyond that, like most fellow maintainers.
Itโs not a drug I peddle, but I donโt go out of my way to disrupt peopleโs lives nor try to make them dependent on me. What are you playing at?
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dorotaC
in reply to Joachim Wiberg • • •If you operate a ferry and people go to school using your ferry every day, can you ignore feedback when you create a change that makes it harder to board for some?
You live in a society, and that creates mutual dependencies all over, both formal (license) and informal (custom). Unilaterally ignoring them is one stance, but it's by no means universal.
Joachim Wiberg
in reply to dorotaC • • •@dcz this is not what Iโm talking about. #OpenSource is not a service, like a ferry.
Iโm a single individual, I have no responsibility to ferry school kids every day just because I donate a boat now and again. Because I get stress relief from my day job by making beautiful boats, Iโm not responsible if someone use one of my donated boats to rob a bank or kill someone. See why the analogy is bad?
Just because I give you something for free doesnโt mean I suddenly owe you anything.
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alfredoh1234
in reply to Joachim Wiberg • • •Joachim Wiberg
in reply to alfredoh1234 • • •@alfredoh1234 wow this analogy is getting out of hand. Iโm not out here in the poppy fields making raw material for opium.
Please stop it with the real world analogies, they never work and have so many flaws!
Why are you trying to make me the villain here? Iโm giving away my work for free and now suddenly I have a responsibility to the rest of the world? Like any agreement between adults, thereโs a contract. Sometimes unwritten but not here, my software comes with a license. Read it.
dorotaC
in reply to Joachim Wiberg • • •This seems all right as an individual, and for users who download the software once and never update it.
But in reality, software grows and gets updated. It's not rare that a distribution ships a new, braindead version, that the users have to put up with, because they don't have the resources to do anything else.
The more I think about it, the more it resembles this question:
do developers owe anything to users if their software has a security problem?
Joachim Wiberg
in reply to dorotaC • • •@dcz what are you on about? My liability is, like I said, under the license of the projects Iโm representing. Anything else falls under local or regional laws.
If you have *anything* else to tell me, please contact me through an attorney. Iโm in the EU, my contact info should be readily available to you.
dorotaC
in reply to Joachim Wiberg • • •I'm talking about responsibility not written into law. Social contract, if you will.
If you don't seem to be interested in a discussion with differing opinions, I don't understand why you make baiting posts in public.
Joachim Wiberg
in reply to dorotaC • • •@dcz dude, I take responsibility. Like I wrote, I go above and beyond. Something you didnโt bother commenting on.
If anything, youโre the one whoโs been baiting. I have tried to be true and honest, something I cannot attribute to you. Why should I have to answer to you all of a sudden? I can state an opinion, defend it if I must, without it having to come to this. But you seem to have it out for me somehow, why? What have I done to you to cause such harm?
dorotaC
in reply to Joachim Wiberg • • •Joachim Wiberg
in reply to dorotaC • • •@dcz you had you chances, now get off my lawn!
Iโm going to block you, as per recommendation, and for the benefit of my blood pressure, because you sir, are not an honest man.
Sean
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in reply to Sean • • •Francesco
in reply to Joachim Wiberg • • •I guess it's the way to ask things that makes the difference. The two FOSS I use most, Inkscape and Penpot, encourage feature suggestions.
In any case, when you do something, whether you work for free or not, there will always be someone who wanted it done differently and will have no problem pointing it out!
Joachim Wiberg
in reply to Francesco • • •@findut it sure is. Weโre all people behind these masks. If you act graceful about it, not demanding stuff, that makes the whole difference! Discussions and suggestions for features, fixes, and what not are often really useful! ๐
Whatโs annoying is the schoolyard bullies and other entitled users demanding changes, fixes, or features. But thankfully itโs not that common.
Meisam ๐ช๐บ
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Unknown parent • • •dorotaC
Unknown parent • • •@helgztech I hear your "no", but I don't hear a "why".
If you stop giving away the apples and the family suffers malnutrition, can you deny any responsibility for that?
I get it that saying "no promises" is justification enough to refuse any moral responsibility in the eyes of some, but I don't think it's universally agreed on. In reality, informal relationships rule. My friends may have said "no promises" when we met, but over time we rely on each other.