W Social uncovered: the reality behind the hype
In January my corner of the social web was abuzz with the surprising announcement at Davos of a new social network: W Social, which aspires to be an alternative to X, based in Europe, with "identity verification to fight disinformation." Its goal? To foster social sovereignty for European citizens, away from the control and influence of U.S. tech behemoths.
There was a lot of ambiguity surrounding the announcement with implications that this may be an initiative driven by European politicians. Was the European Commission involved? Would governments be funding a new social platform for European citizens that required ID verification? It was hard to tell.
Meanwhile, many European newspapers, blogs, radio and TV stations covered this announcement extensively, with great enthusiasm - day after day for what seemed like a full week. Most of the reporting seemed to be a simple rehashing of a press release.
It took me about 5 minutes of research to start uncovering some really surprising elements. The contrast between the media hype and the reality was so jarring, that I decided to start collecting evidence and share what I found in a blog post.
With my article today I aim to share the reality behind the hype, doing the work that journalists should have done at the beginning.
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Disclaimer:
This article represents my personal opinions, commentary, and conclusions formed through independent research using publicly available sources. Any characterizations, interpretations, or inferences are presented as opinion, not as statements of objective fact. Readers are encouraged to review the referenced materials and draw their own conclusions.
Why should YOU care?
World events from the past two years have pushed a lot of European leaders to start reassessing Europe's dependence on American tech infrastructure.
European politicians and policy experts have started holding meetings to discuss "Trusted European Platforms (TEPs) to strengthen Europe’s strategic autonomy." W Social is being mentioned in these discussions:
Sovereign Democracy & Trusted European Platforms: starting!
Sovereign Democracy & Trusted European Platforms: starting!
Stars4MediaStars4Media Project

I understand that doing due diligence requires time and technical expertise.
I would like to collect in this post all the evidence I found of why I personally don't think W Social is a solution for Europe’s digital sovereignty.
If anything, we should exercise critical thinking, follow the money and analyze who has control over social media platforms. It is no coincidence that tech oligarchs in the U.S. have been on a media purchasing spree, scooping up newspapers, TV stations and social media networks - especially in the past 4 years. Controlling the flow of information is a potent thing - and we should be very careful of whom we give that power to.
A word from the author
Before we get started, why should you listen to me?
Well, I have been very active on decentralized social networks for four years now, championing these online spaces over centralized offerings by Big Tech platforms.
I have been invited to speak about my views and experiences at Journées du Logiciel Libre in Lyon, PublicSpaces in Amsterdam, Berlin Fediverse Day, Social Media Strategies in Bologna and this past month I gave a talk at the Ministry of Culture in Paris and delivered the opening keynote at 2MR in Hamburg.
a photo of me on stage at Social Media Strategies in Bologna, Italy - next to Niccolò Venerandi and morloi
In addition to my advocacy, I have been self-hosting my own social media platforms (GoToSocial, PeerTube and Pixelfed instances) and I’ve set up essential services like NextCloud… purposefully using domain name registrars, web and VPS hosting companies based in Europe.
The topics of open social networks, FOSS alternatives to Big Tech platforms and European cloud infrastructure are my bread and butter.
I have been alarmed by the hype around the launch of W Social and all the inaccuracies in news reports. Thus my speaking up.
Issue no.1: How W Social ignored existing European initiatives
People in my circles discussed the announcement of W Social with disbelief and a touch of anger. At launch, the official website of W Social showcased a world map, with icons of American tech platforms (Bluesky, Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn, Reddit, Snapchat, TikTok US, Whatsapp, X and YouTube) superimposed over the map of the United States; then over Russia you can see the logos of OK and Vkontakte, over China there is QQ, TikTok, WeChat and Weibo, and over India there is ShareChat. A circle is drawn around Europe... but there are no icons inside. The message: W Social is here to fill that void and provide a European social network.
a screenshot of the initial landing page for W Social on January 21st 2026
This provoked the ire of many of my friends and fellow Fediverse netizens - because decentralized social media platforms like Mastodon and PeerTube originated in Europe; the Fediverse has over 12 million users. Omitting this felt like a strange choice. Even the European Commission has an active Mastodon account: on their own server, with over 154,000 followers!
European Commission (@EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu)
3.58K Posts, 10 Following, 154K Followers · News and information from the European Commission. A project to foster our presence in the fediverse and support our commitment to European social media platforms based on open source technology. 🇪🇺 Official Mastodon account as verified by the official EU domain in our server’s address (https://europa.eu).
European Commission on Mastodon

While most people focused their frustration on that omission, I thought of something else entirely: for months I had been hearing about the development of Eurosky, based on Bluesky's ATproto.
A mission statement, from Eurosky's website (a note: I grabbed this text in January and the page has since changed. But you can see the original courtesy of the Internet Archive):
Eurosky is building the future of social media - open, pluralistic, and made in Europe. We believe social media should serve our economies and societies, not monopolies. Eurosky is a public-interest infrastructure project that puts control in the hands of users, businesses, and European society. By combining European cloud infrastructure with open standards and democratic governance, we’re creating a new ecosystem where innovation thrives, moderation is transparent, and no single company or country can dictate the rules.
a screenshot of Eurosky's website from late January 2026
By reading articles about W Social, you could easily think journalists were discussing Eurosky. The two platforms are so eerily similar in their stated goals, that when I heard that a new European social platform was launching to rival X, when I read it was called "W Social" my first thought was that Eurosky must have rebranded and changed its name. After all, it was supposed to launch in January 2026 and the announcement of W Social was made in Davos on January 20th 2026.
Oh no. They are two completely different initiatives.
Here is what Robin Berjon - one of the architects of Eurosky - had to say about W Social:
a screenshot of a post by Robin Berjon of Eurosky
While the two initiatives share similar goals, their execution could not be more different.
Eurosky has been slowly and carefully planned out, online and behind the scenes. Its website is sleek and professional, with extensive information explaining what the project is about, team bios, a timeline of objectives. When French and German political leaders met in Berlin in November 2025 at the Summit on European Digital Sovereignty to discuss European tech sovereignty plans, Eurosky team members organized their own conference in Berlin as a "side event", in order to show policy makers what they were working on. This is a very well prepared team of experts.
By contrast, if you visited the website of W Social on its launch day, all you had was a rudimentary landing page with a map of Europe and the invitation to enter an invite code. Any 14-year-old with an hour to spare and a free Canva account could have designed something more professional looking.
Now the page has been updated with a slightly sleeker design for its landing page but it is still lacking any content (as of May 7th, 2026):
the landing page of W social on May 7, 2026
W Social's announcement at Davos felt very rushed, with minimal preparation just to get the word out there about their plans and get a leg up in the news cycle about European platforms as alternatives to Big Tech offerings from Silicon Valley.
With work on Eurosky being well under way (they eventually opened migrations to their server from Bluesky in February), I kept wondering: "Why? What is the point of W Social, another European fork of Bluesky?" And then everything clicked: maybe W Social is banking on mandatory age verification for European users in order to use social media. This could be their "leg up" over Eurosky: the need for an official government ID to open an account and use it.
Issue no.2: W Social's bungled attempt to conceal they are using Bluesky's AT Protocol
How will W Social work? Which technology will it employ to power its revolutionary European social network?
You would think journalists would ask these questions.
Sadly, that wasn't the case.
Online sleuths discovered the page stage.wsocial.eu that revealed WSocial is none other than a fork of Bluesky, thus based on ATProto.
Developers typically test out platforms on a staging website before launching or going in production... the staging page for W Social was exactly like the Bluesky login page. If you clicked on the "x" to close that preview window, you would see a Bluesky feed:


screenshots putting the landing page of Bluesky and the staging page for W Social side by side...
a screenshot of W social's early feed from the staging page. basically a Bluesky feed
That page was active for a few days: if you shared a link to it from Signal for example - like I did - you would see a preview card with the Bluesky logo. So much for calling out Bluesky and conflating it with other Big Tech offerings by Meta and ByteDance.

Additional proof: the URL dev-pds.wsocial.eu which showed the ATproto logo and stated "this is an AT Protocol Personal Data Server" (the two URLs have since been migrated):

This Scooby-Doo unmasking meme shared by DoktorZjivago on Mastodon is a perfect illustration for this:

I'm guessing that after catching some flack online – regarding their high aspirations of having a European tech stack but picking the American Bluesky and their protocol – someone in charge of W Social commanded that their staging website scrap all evidence of ATproto.
So the stage.wsocial.eu webpage a few days after the official announcement looked like this:

Issue no.3: W Social's cavalier attitude towards online security
Did you notice anything wrong in the previous screenshot?
Well, the operation scrapping of all Bluesky branding resulted in the loss of the page's SSL certificate.
This is a LOGIN page into their system.
Why is it bad? Well, when you type a password into a webpage that doesn't have a working SSL certificate, the connection between your browser and the website is unencrypted. That means the password travels as plain text across the Internet.
Did I mention that W Social's value proposition is verified identity and they will require a government ID to create an account? They are asking for your most sensitive data... and yet have a cavalier attitude towards security.
On announcement week, Tom Casavant shared these messages on Bluesky about W Social and its dev-pds.wsocial.eu page (I'm sharing this with Tom's permission):

How bad is this?
Potentially catastrophic if the wrong person could so easily gain access into their system.
Am I theorizing about things that may never happen? Sure. But we should all be very careful about the organizations we trust with our most sensitive data. A few months ago a Discord data breach exposed the government IDs of 70,000 users:
Discord Data Breach - 1.5 TB of Data and 2 Million Government ID Photos Extorted
Discord has confirmed a significant data breach that exposed sensitive user information after an attacker compromised a third-party customer service provider.
CybersecurityNewsGuru Baran

Now, I have heard through the grapevines (and read confirmation in the press - more on this later) that W Social hired a team of software engineers and now have more than 20 employees, so I think they are taking things more seriously. Still, their early blunders were really shocking to me.
Issue no.4: the founders or: who are we trusting with our communications?
W Social is being built by a Swedish company called W Social AB, which is a subsidiary of We Don't Have Time, a climate-focused media platform. The W Social project is led by Anna Zeiter, a Swiss privacy expert who previously served as Chief Privacy Officer at eBay for more than a decade; she holds a PhD in law from the University of Hamburg. Not the typical background for a tech founder.
a screenshot of Anna Zeiter's profile as it appears on Bluesky
According to an article on Impact Loop, W Social received 2.5 million Euros in funding and has a team of 25 people. Its board of advisors includes very powerful, well-connected people in the world of business and politics, including Cristina Caffarra (chair of EuroStack), Elizabeth Denham (former UK Information Commissioner), Sandrine Dixson-Declève (Honorary President of the Club of Rome), Yariv Adan (former Head of AI at Google), Pär Nuder (former Swedish Minister of Finance), Marc Placzek (former CPO at PayPal) and Philipp Rösler (former German vice-chancellor).
At Davos, Zeiter was interviewed during a We Don't Have Time segment and had a chance to talk about her intentions for the platform - the video was posted on X, but I am using the alternate site nitter.net to display it (so you won't need an X account to see it):

Direct link: nitter.net/WeDontHaveTime/stat…
Zeiter said:
Everything is data-driven. Ten years ago we said 'data is the new oil', right now we say 'high quality data is the new oil.' And this is what we are seeing, that competitors in the U.S. and China are using a lot of personal data to analyze, to target... and also sometimes to manipulate users. We want to be different in that respect. Of course, we want to respect GDPR and other European laws because we are run, built and governed in Europe and we would also like to give back to the users. We like to give for example, the face identification process, we want to make sure that users can govern their own data and also their own algorithms, so that users can really choose: "do I want to stay in my filter bubble?" or "do I want to see a little bit more of what is going on in society?" or "do I want to have the full spectrum?"
This is their pitch: a social media platform with a pick-your-own algorithm, that requires government ID to sign up.
What I take issue with here is the sentence "we are run, built and governed in Europe." Why hide that they are using the ATproto infrastructure to operate? Theirs is not a novel, completely original, built from the ground up platform. It is based on Bluesky's ATproto. And yet, this protocol has never been mentioned in any interviews.
Software engineer Maho Pacheco theorized:
I have strong suspicions about why W selected ATproto instead of Activity Pub. Basically there is more power in the biggest actors, a more "centralized" control, to ban/shadow-ban/censure and pull the plug. In other words it is more impactful when Bluesky sidebanned someone or some community than if mastodon.social would do it. The firehose/relay is a the biggest point of control. So in my opinion it is more interesting for investors to create a platform that can be controlled, even if it is just to introduce ads or control the discourse. Technically is because setting-up/supporting/maintaining the firehose/relay layer is very expensive. Every single message would flow through there; creating the biggest firehose in Europe is such a power. So, it is easier to be controlled, and very unlikely to be replicated by other entities.
Issue no. 5: lack of transparency
Following their surprise announcement at Davos, there were dozens of news reports in newspapers, radio shows and TV news shows about this "new European network that will replace X" - with strong implications that it may be an official initiative by the European Union.
a screenshot showing articles about W Social on Google News
This went on for TEN DAYS - with zero fact checking by media organizations or corrections by the W Social founders.
The first news organization to fact check and debunk the myth of official involvement by the European Union was Euronews. In a segment for The Cube (which you could watch here), journalist James Thomas said:
Claims are spreading online like wildfire that the European Union is setting up its own social media platform to rival X. These posts have spread primarily on X itself, with thousands of views and say that taxpayers money will be used to set up W as an alternative to Elon Musk's platform. Some posts describe it as a state-run censorship platform that has receive funding from the European executive, but these claims are misleading. A European Commission spokesperson told The Cube that the EU is not launching, funding or operating any social media platform. There is no European-backed projected called "W".
This came ten days too late, with dozens of news reports legitimizing W as an official European alternative to X.
Let's do some role-playing here: if I were to launch a privately funded project that received extensive media coverage in newspapers, on the radio and TV, but with reports wrongly claiming that the government was behind it... well, the first thing I would do would be to contact journalists to rectify the mistake. I may even put text on my website to correct the assumptions.
W did not do that. I will always remember their silence on this.
I am not sure I can fully trust an initiative that lacked clarity and honesty on two crucial points:
- hiding that they are a fork of Bluesky;
- not correcting wrong claims about their origins, letting people believe that they are part of a European Union initiative - whereas in reality they are a private venture, funded by private investors.
And then there is the thorny issue of their required ID verification, the erosion of privacy and the end of internet anonymity. Em wrote an excellent article pointing out the problems with age verification laws for social media users - it is a must read and covers many of the reasons why government IDs to use social media is a very bad idea:
Age Verification Wants Your Face, and Your Privacy
Age verification laws forcing platforms to restrict access to content online have been multiplying in recent years. The problem is, implementing such measure necessarily requires identifying each user accessing this content, one way or another. This is bad news for your privacy.
Privacy GuidesEm

The Electronic Frontier Foundation also has a superb piece about this topic:
10 (Not So) Hidden Dangers of Age Verification
It’s nearly the end of 2025, and half of the US and the UK now require you to upload your ID or scan your face to watch “sexual content.” A handful of states and Australia now have various requirements to verify your age before you can create a social media account.Age-verification laws may sound…
Electronic Frontier FoundationRindala Alajaji

Final Thoughts
I have a lot more to say about this but I realize that in this post-literate era I have already written a very long post that will take time to read and fully digest. I will stop here - for now. W Social is set to launch tomorrow May 9th on Europe Day. As it happened when it was first announced in January, it is likely to receive a lot of uncritical, superficial press coverage. Please exercise critical thinking and try to look at the reality behind its hype. And if you are not familiar with open social networks, please take a look at a better option: the Fediverse.
Thanks for being here,
Elena

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in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Regarding my W Social exposé: it was months in the making and I could have written a LOT more, showing additional examples of technical blunders, but I kept it "brief" at 3500 words 😅
I ran out of characters to tag all the awesome people I mentioned in the piece: @doktorzjivago (thanks for the top notch meme), @tom @mapache and @Em0nM4stodon
And special thanks to people who volunteered to proof-read a draft and gave me fantastic feedback: @bitzero and @DataKnightmare
It takes a village ❤️
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in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •@doktorzjivago @tom @mapache @Em0nM4stodon @DataKnightmare
In this case: it takes some federated villages. Thank to you for the awesome inquiry.
Pepijn
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Thanks! Let's hope the message lands!
Journalism has been disappointing. One journalist picking up on it was working for Dutch NOS. On launch she asked "Bluesky fork?" and got shut down with a "we'll share tech details later". ⏰🔔
>Eurosky .. carefully planned out,
But also dishonest. Eurosky is an offshoot from a failed global grift now trying the Europe angle.
On launch I emailed back-and-forth with them multiple times to fix their privacy policy. Even now they make false claims.
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in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •This is truly an excellent piece! Thank you for conducting this important research, and for bringing this issue to the attention of the public. This is a very important topic!
And thank you so much for linking to my article
Elena Rossini ⁂
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •I just refreshed the #WSocial website and it's showing a MAJOR redesign... with a label at the top stating "built on the open AT-protocol."
This is the first time ever they acknowledge this – I know, as I've been visiting their website for MONTHS and also never heard about this in any interviews. So the claims in my exposé stand (the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine would confirm this).
Of note: they changed their URL from wsocial.eu to wsocial.news
BTW thanks for all your feedback ❤️
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Oblomov
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •still no mention of Mastodon or the Fediverse, LOL. That .news TLD really brings back to memory that failed attempt to capture the Xodus and the short-lived post.news experiment (shut down in 2024)
techcrunch.com/2024/04/19/post…
Taking bets on how long W will last!
Post News, the a16z-funded Twitter alternative, is shutting down | TechCrunch
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in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Chewie
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Michel Patrice
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Félicitations, Elena Bly* Rossini.
(* Nellie Bly, trailblazing female figure in investigative journalism.)
Sahil? 🍉
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Maho 🦝🍻
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Andy Piper
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •the "trusted feed" thing will be interesting. I'm trying out eYou Social - mobile-only for now, fully proprietary, but, it also promises an EU-based, trusted platform. The "trust" element comes via an AI verification that happens on *every* post; and it gets tripped up (?) on certain things... just imagine posting about the rights of certain groups in society - opinion, or fact? Hmm! It's a dangerous and tricky path, and those AIs are not always great at that. 😬
Let's see how W does.
ikuturso 🇪🇺
in reply to Andy Piper • • •@andypiper where do they talk about this trusted feed? is it just a feed of users local to w and thus id verified or something else?
@_elena
Andy Piper
in reply to ikuturso 🇪🇺 • • •fab:log
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Powerful woman 👍
ikuturso 🇪🇺
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •it's pretty interesting they still really want to avoid saying "Bluesky" and only say "AT-proto".
Almost every other project goes as far as including "sky" in their name and repeatedly mentions Bluesky because that's the thing some people might know at this point so it's good marketing...
Except if you're trying to present yourself as the new European social platform that replaces the US ones such as Bluesky I guess.
MarjorieR
in reply to ikuturso 🇪🇺 • • •I don't think they go to any length to acknowledge that either.
Elena Rossini ⁂
in reply to MarjorieR • • •ikuturso 🇪🇺
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •@marjolica just the nature of free software that anyone can use it for any purpose. There's a North Korean Linux distro but that's not because Linus Torvalds or any of the contributors support North Korea.
Nobody has to federate with them and in fact they decided they don't want to federate with anyone anyway.
IIRC Truth Social was in breach of the license terms at first but later started releasing their changes to the source code too.
Luca Sironi
in reply to ikuturso 🇪🇺 • • •@ikuturso @marjolica
somehow I wish they have federated, so to have the possibility to slap them with a defederation
Olivia Vespera
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Daniel Prindii
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •She mentioned that they work with Trust Anchor Group(Swedish company) for identity checks.
trustanchorgroup.com
Antwort sein auf Instagram, X, TikTok und Co. will ein neues Unternehmen, so die Mitgründerin | ntv
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in reply to Daniel Prindii • • •Michael Mathy
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Marcel Waldvogel
in reply to Michael Mathy • • •It swapped over to several peeople around me, at least. But yes, not via RSS 😎
Michael Mathy
Unknown parent • • •Luca Sironi
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Of all the people I know reporting to being interested in this w thing, no one did effectively mentioned or tried #eurosky , that is already available and people can migrate to at no social cost.
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in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •It does leave me asking: what can we learn from this to help us promote the Fediverse?
Perhaps a spoof website called "Euro Social" that just links to Fediverse 😉 🙂
Ken M Sweeney
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in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •„Issue no.1: How W Social ignored existing European initiatives“
I would say: They ignored all non-commercial media. And mastodon = european? Mostly. But it doesn’t mather. „Es gibt keine Nationalstaaten mehr“ is a trent un SF shows 😀
#wsocial #raumpatrouille
ChefExperte
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Unknown parent • • •seeing how gullible people on X are, though, is really something...
xcancel.com/pubity/status/2014…
Michel Patrice
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Après cinéaste et photographe, tu pourrais maintenant ajouter journaliste d'enquête.
Merci pour cet article très fouillé et très recherché.
Feyter
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •At least for me it's clear... W social is a financial project to grap some founding money. It's not a project with European sovereignty in mind or with sovereignty for Europeans.
Therefore, it should be avoided.
@BjornW@mastodon.social
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in reply to Simon Zerafa • • •Victoria
in reply to Simon Zerafa • • •You can kinda think of Blacksky's app as a truly different instance of Bluesky, if that helps understand it in fediverse terms (though it's not a perfect translation since both protocols have very different approaches to infrastructure).
Blacksky started as a community and safe space for black people inside Blueksy, they started as a feed and moderation service. But today they are much bigger than that. They have their own app totally independent from Blueksy but it is compatible with communicating with people using Blueksy.
Their app started as a fork from Bluesky's but they are expanding and exploring different features for some time already (like having a way that a post is only visible on Blacksky and Blacksky users, pronouns displayed for everyone, and are now developing integration with long-format blog posts that already exist on atproto).
They also launched Acorn, which is a super toolkit for communities to have a similar structure as they have (app branding, moderation, statistics…) with less friction of building from zero.
Lou Reynolds
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Toni Aittoniemi
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Same shit as US big tech, wearing an EU mask…
Which is what I think a lot of this sovereignty hype will boil down to:
A lot of US companies will establish subsidies, that will ”Eurowash” their products. In the background the data access for them stays, and nothing changes. We use the same products under a different name and somebody gets a cut.
Neoliberal corporatism is an ideology, and this is the result. So very few people can even see it.
ikuturso 🇪🇺
in reply to Toni Aittoniemi • • •@gimulnautti that is a valid concern but saying that's how it *will* end up i's a very cynical outlook for an effort that could still produce something positive... people need to get involved and fight against the forces that try to make it fail like that even if it is difficult when faced with lobbyists like these.
@_elena
Toni Aittoniemi
in reply to ikuturso 🇪🇺 • • •@ikuturso Yes, I hope it will not. The risk is real however, and this is essentially the status quo.
We should recognize how bad things really are. I feel the most danger is that people want to feel hopeful and they close their eyes on how the train tracks are laid down.
witchescauldron
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in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Bookmarking it for anyone who will mention "W" to me.
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in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Gander: The Social Media You Want, Built in Canada
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in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Dr. Juande Santander-Vela
in reply to jaj • • •@jaj you’ll enjoy this, then… eupolicy.social/@hpod16/116538…
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Unknown parent • • •@mick well at least...
wraptile
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •ikuturso 🇪🇺
in reply to wraptile • • •@wraptile would have to disagree that it's the only one but it is a pretty significant one and also has implications for how independent anything based on their platform and protocol can really be.
Dries Buytaert (Drupal) wrote about some of the limitations when it comes to software sovereignty, Bluesky would get a "C" under his framework and that's before we even consider the network effects inherent to a social platform:
dri.es/the-software-sovereignt…
@_elena
The Software Sovereignty Scale
Dries BuytaertReiner Knudsen
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •An algorithm is their way of guiding news and communication. Who still wants that?????
@BjornW@mastodon.social
Unknown parent • • •MarkChristopherson
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Thank you, this kind of work is so important and sadly underappreciated.
The difficulty for a lot of people (like me!) is not really understanding the tech we're using. So we end up trusting whatever we're told.
Hopefully, articles like this will gradually educate people so they understand how to make their choices align with their principles.
Elena Rossini ⁂
in reply to MarkChristopherson • • •Gabriel Markley
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Catha
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Although living in 2 EU-countries makes the change of reading more about it bigger you'd think, but ... No. Sorry.
But thanks for your interesting 'backgroundcheck', at least I know I don't have to feel like I have missed anything, staying at masto is still the best choice. 😁
FediThing
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Ryoma123
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Mastodon Migration
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Fantastic work, as always Elena!
Great exposé!
Zło To 🏴☠️ ᵗʰʳᵉᵉᶠᶦᵈᵈʸ
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Jimmothy Baggins
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •anytime you see a privacy policy page with anything more than we don’t collect your data you should run screaming .. and they have a very lengthy privacy policy.
Is this different than eYou ?
Babette Knauer
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Jürgen 𐐘
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •WSocial and Eurosky.Social are not a fork of BlueSky. In fact all of them are AT protocol instances. Which btw. you could also host yourself. Basically very comparable with the many ActivityPub instances. I think we in the Fediverse should keep being fair.
Definitely better at AT protocol is, that you can move your account including your posts. You can even keep your handle if you have an own domain. Something that the Fediverse could do better.
Michael 🇺🇦
in reply to Jürgen 𐐘 • • •Jürgen 𐐘
in reply to Michael 🇺🇦 • • •Michael 🇺🇦
in reply to Jürgen 𐐘 • • •When the people from Bluesky decide to block you from their AppView, then you are cut off. AFAIK there is currently only the AppView from the people from Blacksky as an alternative.
Different apps don't help, because they need to talk to an AppView server and your PDS. And the PDS needs AppView for the message flow.
Dr. Eric J. Fielding, PhD
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Damián Búho
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in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •This was great, thanks!
And maybe it's because I'm old, but I would have gladly read a much longer article shining light into the dark corners of W.
Elena Rossini ⁂
in reply to { id: d2718, ok: 🇵🇸🌈🏳️⚧️🇺🇦 } • • •Victoria
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Good article, but I just want to correct one information from a quote you added to the article.
This is very outdated information. Currently, it's very cheap to run an atproto relay ( bsky.app/profile/bad-example.c… ), there are multiple of them up and running pulsar.feeds.blue/ (both relays and firehoses). So this theory has no foundation. Though it is a centralization point of an app (if the app doesn't allow you to change your relay, because some Bluesky clients allow that) that can be used as an additional moderation point for the app, which can end up in censorship if things go evil (though so far relays only block spam networks).
Pulsar - ATProto relay observatory
pulsar.feeds.blueMickey
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in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Bill
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •I didn't pay attention to Davos so I missed it. To many rich people high-giving each other for being rich.
Thank you for digging into what is going on behind the scenes. Are the investors just more techbros, just European?
Polly Kraisus
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •wojtek
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Michael 🇺🇦
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Victoria
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Some relevant updates.
Between March 26 and 29, we had the AtmosphereConf in Vancouver. People from W Social and Eurosky were there, and they even did presentations.
I feel like W Social relationship with Atproto devs is more amicable now, compared to their first impression, which wasn't that good.
During the conference, Eurosky announced they will take the infrastructure path, not building a social media themselves, but instead offering the infrastructure for European builders (for both atproto and activity pub btw).
Eurosky presentation: atmosphereconf.org/event/ja4oo…
W Social lightning talk: atmosphereconf.org/event/000WS…
Both links have video recording available bellow the description.
ATmosphereConf 2026
atmosphereconf.orgMichael 🇺🇦
Unknown parent • • •Elena Rossini ⁂
Unknown parent • • •@hannes99 @ikuturso @petitcoeur I heard through the grapevines (very trusted open web insider) that W social will host its own PDS, relay and AppView... but will use Bluesky's moderation at the beginning. So not fully independent after all...
As far as I know, Eurosky for now only has a PDS (and not the relay or AppView) but I could be wrong
hannes99
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in reply to ikuturso 🇪🇺 • • •@ikuturso
"the only thing Eurosky provides right now is a PDS"
So does W.
@petitcoeur
ikuturso 🇪🇺
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Unknown parent • • •hannes99
Unknown parent • • •also see infosec.exchange/@adfichter/11…
#Wedium #AnotherShadyW #TikTokAlternative
Adfichter (@adfichter@infosec.exchange)
Adfichter (Infosec Exchange)Goodlucksil
Unknown parent • • •@hannes99
@_elena
We don't want monetization. That's why we're in the Fediverse. Some people (avoiding name-calling here) want monetization. WSocial is for them.
clarkiestar
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ikuturso 🇪🇺
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Eurosky only having a PDS is correct, you can see what they have and are working on here: eurosky.tech/build/
@hannes99 @petitcoeur
Build – Help us build Europe's social web infrastructure
Euroskythe_infamous
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •I need to read this for real.
I was excited about trying out a new platform.
Elena Rossini ⁂
Unknown parent • • •Wilfried Klaebe
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in reply to Wilfried Klaebe • • •tuga
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •the_infamous
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Just finished reading your article and wow lots of interesting points to digest.
I went to the website the other day it definitely looks a ton more polished than back in January when it was first announced.
As usual I signed up for beta access because I like seeing new social platforms but this one has age verification and that's a deal breaker for me right there.
Great post Elena and excellent information in the article.
Elena Rossini ⁂
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