No one likes being told what to do.
Even if you’re being told something that would genuinely be helpful, just being told to do it can often make you not want to do it. Good advice quickly turns into nagging if the person delivering the advice delivers it poorly, or you’re not ready to hear it.
Deep down, you might even know what they’re saying is correct, but it doesn’t matter. You’re going to push back on positive change because it’s still change, and changing is uncomfortable.
But what if the advice isn’t suggesting you change; it’s suggesting you take a hold of yourself and your faculties. Not that you change who you are, but you take control of who you are instead.
What if the suggestion is: you need to drink less, maybe even entirely?
In the 19th century, alcoholism was at an all-time high. U.S. citizens were drinking 5 to 7 gallons of pure alcohol per person per year. That is an astronomical amount of booze being consumed by your friends, family members, neighbors, etc.
If you are an advocate of self-determination, you would likely find yourself defending a person’s right to self-determination from the most likely culprit to interfere with it: government or private entities.
But would you not find yourself, upon taking a step back, advocating that people regain their self-determination from the bottle as well?
It is clear that one’s ability to pursue self-determination is entirely dependent on their freedom. How free are they to pursue their interests? Their aspirations? Their dreams?
If the government is not actively kneecapping your attempts to live free, and if a private company isn’t keeping you from your freedom, but you are addicted to the bottle, are you truly free?
Alcohol is a serious problem and alcoholism permeates many peoples lives. There are few who do not know someone suffering from alcoholism.
Organizations sprang up to address such problems, such as the American Temperance Society, founded in 1826, having members pledge to abstain from distilled liquor (through not necessarily beer or wine) when alcoholism was at an all-time high. The ATS started as a voluntary temperance pledge organization; a pledge to take control of yourself and hold yourself together through maintaining your sobriety.
It was completely voluntary, and evidently welcomed, as over a million had taken the pledge within ten years.
Further, sticking with the 19th century, the role women played in the home was very different than what we see today. Many could not work, and many were at the whim of their husbands.
So if their husband was a slave to the bottle, one of the most impacted people from the alcohol is the one who likely wasn’t even partaking in said drinking.
You, a believer in self-determination, can see that women’s self-determination was already at a limit, but now alcohol’s impact on the men in the United States is robbing women of their self-determination as well, further worsening the lives of wives/sisters/daughters, etc.
Someone should sound the alarms about that. If only someone could tackle all these issues at once.
Someone like Frances Willard.
Frances Willard was born near Rochester, New York in 1839. A teacher by trade, Willard began her career working for various women’s colleges, including becoming the first Dean of Women at Illinois’s Northwestern University before she’d resign her role and begin focusing on what she would be remembered for: the women’s temperance movement.
While not the first, Frances Willard was the second and longest reigning President of the Women’s Christian Temperance Union (WCTU). Before Willard, the WCTU was a single-issue, anti-alcohol organization. Under Willard, the WCTU focused on connecting the relationship between temperance and women’s suffrage.
Their philosophy became “Do Everything,” in which their goals would focus on policies from a variety of issues (education, women’s rights, public health, etc.). The idea of “Home Protection,” connecting temperance and women’s suffrage and making them inseparable to the goals of the WCTU, was appealing to many women across the states.
In essence, their goals of a “sober and pure” world was an earnest self-determination movement. Women’s suffrage as a self-determination movement is apparent enough, but tying sobriety to self-determination is genuinely inspired. They are inseparable, as how can one be free if they are controlled by their demons? How can those around and dependent on you be free when they live in fear of your intoxicated state?
Of course, they did have the wrong final conclusion on how to solve that problem.
Frances Willard was far from perfect (Ida B. Wells sends her regards), nor was the WCTU itself. Willard’s inability (or perhaps unwillingness) to condemn lynching in a timely manner and the WCTU’s willingness to uphold racial segregation for white southerners remain a stain on her legacy and cannot be ignored for brevity.
Perfection not substantiated, she had still done something unmistakably clever for women’s suffrage and made an undoubtedly important observation.
In the beginning, the WCTU was non-partisan. Their work was focused on raising awareness on and seeking to eliminate the evils of alcohol consumption, largely stemming from “Dry” Protestant ethics, but come the 1884 elections, that would officially change.
While Willard had made earlier attempts to step into politics, including briefly forming her own “Home Protection Party” in 1881, it was officially the 1884 Presidential election when she would throw the WCTU’s support behind the Prohibition Party, which her Home Protection Party merged with in 1882.
The Prohibition Party actually predates the WCTU by nearly half a decade. It was September 1st, 1869 when the Prohibition Party officially came together as a political party dedicated to supporting legislative alcohol prohibition; a to-be-proven-faulty remedy to a genuine problem.
One will have to put themselves in the context of the United States of America at the time. The Civil War had only ended five years prior. Slavery, an evil that people said was an unbreakable and “peculiar” institution of the South, was abolished.
Many folks must have thought “If one evil could be banished by law, certainly this other evil could, too.”
But no one likes being told what to do.
It is at this point the story must pause to state the obvious: the United States Pirate Party is not in support of a governmental ban on alcohol.
Nor would we ever support such a measure.
In fact, one could venture to guess that most Pirates would support laws closer to the drug decriminalization of Portugal.
Those battling alcohol addiction (or addiction of any kind) need assistance in quitting, not a government mandate. Many need to be treated, not to be criminalized.
What the Pirate Party is, however, is a party that advocates for self-determination and free and open society. Pirates calling for the outlawing of alcohol would be beyond bizarre. Grog and rum are essentially inseparable images from the whole Pirate persona. We celebrate our freedom and ability to do so.
But a Pirate can recognize and respect an individual’s personal decision to maintain their sobriety and hold themselves together.
When looking at the word “prohibition,” it is easy to see the word “prohibit” in clear etymological terms. But etymologically speaking, why not break that down further?
“Pro-” often either means “in front of/before,” “forward,” “on behalf of/in favor of,” “instead proportion to/according to” or “instead of/in place of”.
In “prohibition,” the word stems from “pro-” the meaning “in front of” and the Latin “hibēre” meaning “to hold,” so “to hold in front of,” ie. to block.
“Hibition” never did find its way into the English language as a word on its own. Which is a shame, because I think it explains the temperance movement far better than “banning alcohol” ever could.
If one is to understand “-hibition” as meaning “to hold,” then why wouldn’t “Hibition” as a stand alone word mean something like “holding (yourself together).”
Ie, to take control of yourself and maintain control of your faculties is “Hibition.”
That is, dear reader, a form of self-determination.
In a way, that makes the Prohibition Party not simply one of temperance, but a party that is Pro-Hibition. A health-and-wellness party. A party advocating for self-determination from the bottle and drugs.
Which makes what they are famous for all the more unfortunate.
You see, the banning of slavery was an act of liberation. You could use the law to free individuals from the shackles of slavery and people would be better off for it.
However, slavery was a power structure, not a product. The evils of alcohol cannot simply be legislated away.
More moderate members of the Prohibition Party understood this. Many were Pro-Hibition advocates (as they’d be retroactively deemed by the U.S. Pirate Party’s Captain 150 years later), others simply wanted hard liquor banned while keeping beer and wine in the spirit of the original ATS pledge.
But a third group, a later arrival to the temperance movement, would be the final push towards the realization that it wouldn’t work: the Anti-Saloon League.
Stripped of all the things that made temperance a movement of self-determination, led by Wayne Wheeler, the Anti-Saloon League was a single-issue proto-lobbyist group, trailblazing many tactics such as targeting politicians not pro-alcohol ban and utilizing public campaigns against said politicians.
Aggressive, powerful and feared by many in D.C., and far more extreme than folks like Willard before him, Wayne Wheeler led the final charge to ban alcohol. He was instrumental in getting the 18th Amendment and the Volstead Act passed.
Again, abolitionists felt that they had defeated a great evil with the passing of the 13th Amendment; and for the most part, they absolutely had. Folks in the temperance movement must have thought the same; but for the most part, they absolutely had not.
Moderate Prohibition Party members and temperance leaders could perhaps see the inevitable consequences. Freeing slaves is an act of providing self-determination, while banning alcohol is the government mandating what you can and cannot do.
After the rise of organized crime, the criminalization of a vice and the lack of enforcement on the alcohol ban itself, enough was enough.
It took nearly 15 years for the United States to change course and say “We made a mistake,” but they did come to that conclusion. The 18th amendment was repealed by the 21st amendment.
No one likes being told what to do.
Neither did the WCTU nor Prohibition Party die after the 21st amendment, and the Prohibition Party remains the oldest minor party in the United States today, no longer advocating for governmental bans on vices.
Their roles in history are important, if not for the reasons they had hoped.
However, Prohibition Party’s place in the minor party echelon today is also important. The United States needs a party that promotes health and wellness. It’s imperative to have a party focused on the betterment of our fellow people.
We need a party who is Pro-Hibition.
We also need fewer Anti-Saloon Leagues. We need to remember them as zealots of a noble cause who took something good to its very extreme and bastardized it.
This is an issue not-unique to the temperance movement.
Wayne Wheeler was not a bad man. When he was young, he was stabbed with a pitchfork by an intoxicated farmhand and it shaped his anti-alcohol stance for the rest of his life. But if your response is “we must force its banning by the legislator’s pen and the threat of the barrel of a gun,” then you have come to the wrong conclusion.
Over 200 years removed from the temperance movement’s beginning and with the failures of outlawing alcohol now easily traceable, there are lessons to be learned from how to and how to not go about changing society.
Temperance, at its best and least coercive, is a form of self-determination. The WCTU had genuinely noble intentions having fought for the women’s suffrage alongside temperance, locking them together as inseparable causes. That should be recognized and celebrated.
The misguided belief you can have it go away via amendment, the way the abolitionists did a generation before, is a lesson learned, but not a reason to throw away the original idea of temperance as self-determination all together.
As of time of writing, the youth of the United States are drinking less than generations prior. In a way, the temperance movement is finding their successes naturally and without legislative arm wringing.
Which is, perhaps, how it was always meant to be.
The Prohibition Party has been around continuously since the late 19th century and is still kicking today. A past that haunts them, an era synonymous with failure, crime and paternalistic governmental overreach, never let it destroy them. Lessons learned, strategies adapted, platforms updates and the fight continues.
That kind of resilience, whether you agree with them personally or not, should be commended.
Minor parties in the United States face an uphill battle for ballot access and recognition, but to stick around and maintain that fight is another battle entirely. Many do not survive pressures and eras of stagnation.
In the United States, there are minor parties that advocate for things like libertarian governance, ecosocialism, transhumanism, legalization of marijuana, etc.
Each and every minor party in this country plays an important role and fills in an important niche. The Prohibition Party’s role as one focused our countrymen’s Hibition is essential.
If there wasn’t a need to have this niche filled, the whole “Make America Healthy Again” campaign from 2024 might have fallen on deaf ears.
But it didn’t. It resonated with a number of voters from both sides of the aisle.
If the two-party system is to ever be defeated, we need as many parties fighting for their causes and against the duopoly as possible. Not every cause is noble and not every party is one to hold in high regard, but the modern Prohibition Party is not one you should write off.
You don’t need to join the Prohibition Party.
You can think the government outlawing of alcohol was stupid, which it absolutely was. You can think the current War on Drugs has done more harm than good and must end, which it absolutely has and should.
None of that means a party like the Prohibition Party, the only party holding onto a lost idea of self-determination, has no place in modern day politics.
In a healthy democracy, we need the Prohibition Party just as much as we need the Legal Marijuana Now Party.
Compromise is a dirty word in the 21st century under the two party system. Compromise in our two-party system has often looks more like concessions than halfway points. Causes get thrown to the wayside as disposable; bargaining chips and false promises by both sides.
In a healthy democracy, more diversity of thought, more to shop around in the market place of ideas would be a good thing. We would appreciate having parties with issues they are unwilling to compromise on, allowing for certain issues to be addressed and stay in the public sphere.
You would appreciate folks pointing out something is harming you and those around you and raising the alarm bells on it. You would feel grateful there’s someone out there making sure the government isn’t trying to poison you via lack of regulation or actual health hazards.
But you’d feel less grateful if that same party was trying to force you to live a healthier lifestyle by coercion, because that is a bastardization of self-determination.
And no one likes being told what to do.
I am a Pirate. I am a Wet Catholic. I am an advocate of self-determination. I am going to celebrate 4/20, because I have the freedom to choose to do so.
I am also Pro-Hibition.
uspirates.org/through-the-spyg…
Ulrich Popp
in reply to netzpolitik.org • • •Ich will bzw. "muß" es mit dem Browser bedienen können, sonst halte ich das für Murx by Design.
lobingera
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in reply to Ulrich Popp • • •caravantravellers 🌈
in reply to lobingera • • •@lobingera @HoSnoopy
Ich habe mir selbst ein kleines Script gebastelt, wo ich in ein Formular einen Betrag und einen Zweck angeben kann. Daraufhin wird ein QR-Code mit dem EPC angezeigt, den man scannen und mir damit eine Echtzeitüberweisung schicken kann.
Ganz simpel. Für den Fall, dass ich ausnahmsweise mal Bargeld dabei habe, das jemand benötigt.
josteglitz 🌱💚
in reply to Ulrich Popp • • •Klaus Frank
in reply to netzpolitik.org • • •Außerdem ist es komplett überflüssig. Einfach SEPA Echtzeitüberweisung.
Gestern erst mit ein paar Amerikanern geschrieben, die sich nur deshalb jetzt bei Wise Konten in Euro geholt haben um Geld hin und her zu senden.
Ist wesentlich besser als alles andere...
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trusty falxter 🧠
in reply to Klaus Frank • • •@agowa338 Es ist m.W. nur ein Frontend für Echtzeit-SEPA. Wäre natürlich praktisch, wenn man endlich mal easy mit allen Konten kontaktlos zahlen könnte und sagen: "WEROiere mir mal 10€ an foo@example.org" und wenn man das, wie jede Multibanking App oder PayPal, ohne Koorperationsbereitschaft der Bank nutzen könnte und wenn ich mir (im Zweifel mehrere) Empfangs-Identifikatoren aussuchen könnte. Aber nein, die Bank muss mitmachen und darf sich aussuchen, zu welchen Bedingungen: "du musst deine E-Mail verwenden, nein nicht irgendeine, die wir schon von dir haben UND deine Telefonnummer und du musst unsere App benutzen, WERO-App geht bei uns nicht und nachdem du alles eingegeben hast: du hast leider ein Partnerkonto, da geht das gar nicht."
Ich tippe auf Rohrkrepierer.
@netzpolitik_feed
Viktoria D. Richards/Uddelhexe
in reply to Klaus Frank • • •@agowa338
Ich finde es darum auch bedenklich, dass es oft als " Alternative " für Paypal angepriesen wird.
Halt NICHT!
Ich nehme Paypal, wenn ich vor allem meine IBAN an den anderen nicht herausgeben will.
Aber bei Wero tauchen all die Daten ja auf dem Kontoauszug auf.
Unbedarfte Leute, die hörem " wie Paypal" haben das dann nicht aufm Schirm.
Wenn ich überweisen will, mal ich ne Echtzeitüberweisung.
So verleitet Wero nur zu Handlungen, die es Betrügern leichter machen.
Klaus Frank
in reply to Viktoria D. Richards/Uddelhexe • • •Theoretisch bekommt man bei PayPal deine Identitätsdaten auch raus. Nur etwas aufwändiger, aber im Zweifel kannst du PayPal einfach anschreiben und sagen, du möchtest eine Zivile Klage einreichen und dann bekommst du die Adresse soweit mir gesagt wurde.
Viktoria D. Richards/Uddelhexe
in reply to Klaus Frank • • •@agowa338
Bei Paypal kriegt der Empfänger einer Zahlung legal nicht meine verknüpfte IBAN/Kreditkartennr. Nr. raus.
Das wäre mir neu und ich arbeite im Kommissariat für Betrug
Wenn das legal geht, dann wäre ich für Aufklärung dankbar und darum ging es ja in meiner Kritik.
Ob Polizei oder Banken diese Daten bekommen ist eine Sache, ich will aber auf keinen Fall das Egon von Kleinanzeigen meine IBAN weiß, die er danm missbrauchen könnte.
Peter
in reply to Viktoria D. Richards/Uddelhexe • • •@v_d_richards
Jap, der Empfänger der Zahlung bekommt deine IBAN o ä nicht raus.
Aber warum muss PayPal wissen, das ich eine rote Unterhose kaufte? Warum erhalten die Warendetails von meinem Einkauf?
Das bekommt WERO nicht.
@agowa338 @netzpolitik_feed
Viktoria D. Richards/Uddelhexe
in reply to Peter • • •@ps @agowa338
Das Paypal kacke ist, ist unstrittig.
Europa hat aber trotzdem keine Alternative am Start für Bezahlwn zwischen Leuten ohne Preisgabe der IBAN.
Und die IBAN allein reicht völlig aus, damit Betrüger die bei Amazon und Co für Sepa hinterlegen und dann kann man das Konto platt machen, nachdem man wochenlang nur Beträge zurückgebucht ubd Lebenszeit mit Polizei und Kundenservices verschwendet hat.
U.u.kann man sich auch irgendwann über Inkasso Schreibem freuen.
Oliver Hoffmann
in reply to Viktoria D. Richards/Uddelhexe • • •@Viktoria D. Richards/Uddelhexe @netzpolitik.org @Peter @Klaus Frank
Wero ist eine Alternative Option, mit Teilnehmern Geld zu tauschen. Auf andere wie Paypal.
Wenn der orange Mann es möchte, könnte er ja den amerikanischen Zahlungsdienstleistern einfach mal abfordern, die Europäer mal ein paar Tage auszusperren.
Dann wären die zwar weg vom Fenster, aber Donald dem Großen wäre das ja ziemlich egal.
Wenn der digitale Euro kommt, haben wir eine weitere Option zum bezahlen.
Viktoria D. Richards/Uddelhexe
in reply to Oliver Hoffmann • • •@olliausstuhr @ps @agowa338
Mir reicht Überweisen meist und was ich noch online shoppe und was nicht über Rechnung geht, ist dann oft auch nicht so wichtig.
Ich bräuchte so was wie PP halt zum Entgegennehmen von Zahlungen als Künstler.
Meine private Iban will ich ungern rausgeben und für die paar Aufträge alle pasr Monate wären die Gebühren für ein Firmenkonto höher als meine Einnahmen.
Ansonsten brauch ich PP nicht und auch keine Kreditkarten
Klaus Frank
in reply to Oliver Hoffmann • • •@olliausstuhr @ps @v_d_richards
Sepa Echtzeitüberweisung ist mir bereits digital genug...
Klaus Frank
in reply to Viktoria D. Richards/Uddelhexe • • •@v_d_richards @ps
In dem Fall wendest du dich aber nur an deine Bank und die müssen dir umgehend das ganze erstatten.
Also am ende des Tages ist das das Problem der Bank.
Maximal musst du eine Anzeige wegen Betrugs gegen unbekannt machen. Ein Ehem. Kollege hatte sowas mal, weil ihn jemand "gebürengetrollt" hat mit 0,01Euro überweisungen, damals als es noch nicht kostenlos war.
Aus Verbrauchersicht ist das eigentlich komplett risikolos. Maximal etwas nervig...
caravantravellers 🌈
in reply to Viktoria D. Richards/Uddelhexe • • •Wenn es nur um das Empfangen von Echtzeit-Überweisungs-Zahlungen geht, kannst du die IBAN eines Tagesgeldkontos angeben. Darauf gehen keine SEPA-Lastschriften.
Bfranz
in reply to netzpolitik.org • • •slartybartfasd
in reply to netzpolitik.org • • •Marcel Geveler
in reply to slartybartfasd • • •Barbara Niedner
in reply to netzpolitik.org • • •Wollte es demnächst ausprobieren. Das wird dann wohl nix. Hoffentlich kommt jetzt der digitale Euro mit einer guten Lösung.
Oliver Hoffmann
in reply to Barbara Niedner • • •@Barbara Niedner @netzpolitik.org
Sowas muss man selber ausprobieren. Einiges was hier geschrieben steht, ist so nicht richtig bzw. unvollständig.
Zum Beispiel:
- Es gibt eine separate Wero-App
- Mit Wero kann man auch Geld anfordern. Geht nicht mit Echtzeitüberweisung.
Das System ist noch nicht perfekt, aber das wird noch. Schon jetzt ist es wegen des Datenschutzes um Längen besser als Paypal.
Barbara Niedner
in reply to Oliver Hoffmann • • •@olliausstuhr
Das Thema war Amazon Cloud: Warum soll ich mehr Aufwand und weniger Nutzen in Kauf nehmen, wenn Wero die Daten in der Amazon Cloud speichert?
Mein Ziel: Schritt für Schritt zur digitalen Souveränität. Da brauche ich keine „neue“ App, die bei Amazon speichert. Suche nach echten Alternativen. Da habe ich noch genug andere Baustellen bevor ich mich dann mit Wero beschäftige 😏
Marco Irlbacher
in reply to netzpolitik.org • • •Wäre dann zumindest das kleinere Übel.
einfach nur menschlich
in reply to Marco Irlbacher • • •@marcirl
Deine Bank hat bei Nutzung die Daten über Wero-Zahlungen.
Sparkassen kooperieren z.B. mit Payback.
Nahezu alle Banking-Apps nutzen die Stores von Google oder Apple.
Da ist meist Schnüffelsoftware (Tracker) inklusive.
Selbst die Bank unabhänige Wero-App sammelt mehr Daten als für Geldtransfers nötig.
reports.exodus-privacy.eu.org/…
Man sollte den Datenaustausch deutscher Banken mit der Schufa nicht vergessen.
Report for eu.epicompany.wero.wallet 1.0.34
εxodusdan1
in reply to einfach nur menschlich • • •Da wäre es schön, wenn sich GNU Taler durchsetzen könnte.
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Tale…
GNU Taler – Wikipedia
Autoren der Wikimedia-Projekte (Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.)caravantravellers 🌈
in reply to dan1 • • •Der Gnu Taler hat ja einen ganz anderen Zweck als ein allgemeines Zahlungsmittel zu sein.
Neulich auf den #CLT (Chemnitzer Linux-Tagen) dazu einen Vortrag gehört. Ganz prima für Veranstaltungen, aber es muss vorher Geld eingezahlt werden. Auszahlungen nicht verbrauchten Guthabens klappt noch nicht.
Sherlock Schaf
in reply to netzpolitik.org • • •Stullsen
in reply to netzpolitik.org • • •einfach nur menschlich
in reply to netzpolitik.org • • •Der Ruf nach europäischen Alternativen für US-Big-Tech greift zu kurz. Europäische Firmen sind nicht automatisch besser.
Angesichts der zahlreichen nationalen und EU-Vorhaben zur Internetüberwachung (Altersverifikation, Chatkontrolle, Zugriff auf Gesundheitsakte für die Polizei, Klarnamenspflicht, biometrische Passdaten für US-Behörden …) sind die Vorteile fraglich.
Privatsphäre gibt es nur mit Open Source und wirksamer End-zu-End Kodierung.
Sheogorath
in reply to einfach nur menschlich • • •@menschlich Europäische Firmen sind nicht automatisch besser, aber juristisch unabhängiger von den USA.
Und irgendwo muss man halt anfangen.
endolexi
in reply to netzpolitik.org • • •Samson - tief In Berlin
in reply to netzpolitik.org • • •Klassiker - strategischem Anspruch u. operativer Realität.
Glaubwürdigkeit vs. pragmatische Entscheidung (Skalierbarkeit u. Time-to-Market)
Das Wero Kernversprechen ist digitale Souveränität. Wenn man dann auf US-Giganten wie Amazon (AWS) setzt, wirkt das widersprüchlich.
Meiner Meinung nach ist der Start mit AWS ein notwendiges Übel, um überhaupt wettbewerbsfähig zu sein. Langfristig muss Wero jedoch auf europäische Infrastrukturen (Gaia-X oder lokale Anbieter) migrieren.
Mosiwo
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in reply to netzpolitik.org • • •mipohl
in reply to netzpolitik.org • • •Es gibt doch in Europa auch eigene Anbieter und es muss nicht AWS sein!
Irrsinn Hilft ⚾ 🏈 🏀 🏒
in reply to netzpolitik.org • • •Macht ja keinen Sinn.🤷♂️
Ryek Darkener
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Nicht nur das, er hängt auch von Google-Diensten ab, zur Überprüfung der "Sicherheit des Handies" (Play Integrity API ). Es verlässt sich auf Google zur Bestätigung für die sogenannte Geräteintegrität, App-Integrität. Und fragt Goggle, ob es verdächtige Aktivitäten mit dem Google-Konto! gibt.
Das ist ein Witz. Amazon-Server sollen US-Übergriffigkeit auf Wero-Daten und Googles Sicherheits- und Privacy-Verständnis sollen die Integrität sicherstellen.
Es ist somit weiterhin komplett von US-Diensteanbietern abhängig bei sehr wesentlichen Aspekten und damit keine Beispiel für digitale Souveränität bei länderübergreifendem Zahlungsverkehr.
anna elbe
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