Join us at #FediForum today — an unconference about the ActivityPub ecosystem. We’ll be doing a live demo and proposing a session:
Behind the Bonfire: building a fediverse app in public
Curious how a fediverse app actually gets made? We’ll share the journey to Bonfire 1.0, talk about deployment, governance, and what building in public really looks like — the good, the hard, and the weird.
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Have you registered for #FediForum yet?
Make sure to tune in tomorrow to hear from us and many wonderful folks including Cory Doctorow:
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Mi sento come una particella di sodio
Non ho quasi mai alcuna reazione ai miei post, né commenti, né like, né condivisioni. Su Facebook avevo 100-150 amici e ogni post aveva qualche like, qualche commento, qualche condivisione. Mi sembra di non esistere.
Qualche giorno fa ho messo un post di test chiedendo a chi lo leggeva se era visibile e ho avuto una sola reazione (tra l'altro, di una persona iscritta a questa stessa istanza).
A me sono venute in mente due possibili spiegazioni, ma magari ce ne sono anche altre, non so.
1. La mia uscita da Facebook ha coinciso con un calo verticale della mia capacità di scrivere o condividere cose che interessino qualcun altro oltre a me;
2. Non ho capito bene come funziona il Fediverso e per qualche motivo i miei post invece di arrivare alle migliaia di persone che lo affollano (come mi aspetterei) non arrivano a nessun'altra istanza (o arrivano in un numero insignificante di istanze), benché io usi sempre la permission "public".
Ci sono altre spiegazioni che mi sfuggono?
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Ps: sebbene si usa la stessa "lingua", activitypub, poi in pratica le persone del mastoverso non usano davvero, solo raramente, i gruppi creati su friendica o nel zotverso, la compatibilità quasi che scarsa e la differenza tecnica (ricordando che il mastoverso è simile a Twitter) di comunicazione complicano un po' il tutto, nonostante la "lingua" (protocollo) sia la stessa.
Ma per carità! Ci manca solo che uno si segni nel calendario che deve rispondere ai miei messaggi, su Facebook nessuno se l'era segnato epperò qualcuno con cui interagire c'era, mi domando come mai qui non ci sia NESSUNO che abbia voglia di interagire.
Non è la mancanza di like sui miei post il problema, è la mancanza di persone con cui interagire, in questo senso un like o un "vaffanculo stronzo" hanno lo stesso valore, segnalano l'esistenza di forme di vita con cui sono entrato in contatto.
Che tu non abbia voglia o che un altro non abbia voglia va benissimo, la domanda che mi pongo è se qui ci sia un social network o meno, perché da quello che vedo mi sembra di no.
Forse sono sull'istanza sbagliata? Un'istanza poco federata? Dovrei andare su Mastodon Uno pure io? Magari lì ci sono forme di vita in quantità sufficiente a stabilire una rete di contatti con cui interagire. Boh.
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ci sono diversi aspetti da affrontare:
1) visibilità
2) engagement
1) nel primo caso il problema è l'iniziale visibilità di un profilo, soprattutto prsso le altre istanze, ma ci sono al cuni escamotage da adottare e alcune impostazioni da controllare
2) nel secondo caso il problema è che tendenzialmente le persone rispondono e interagiscono con un contenuto soprattutto quando quel contenuto si distanzia dalla propria visione del mondo e dalle prorie convinzioni. Tuttavia, nl Fediverso si tende a seguire persone affini e quindi questo "engagement" (spesso stimolante, ma a volte tossico) non viene valorizzato dal Fediverso.
Controllando gli utenti che segui però ho anche notato che su una quarantina di profili:
- 5 sono account di servizio dell'istanza poliverso
- una decina sono bot
- due o tre sono profili che non interagiscono mai o solo se menzionati direttamente
Di fatto perciò ti consiglierei di migliorare l'intellegibilità del tuo profilo scrivendo una bio facile (a proposito, come mai si vedono i TAG html?) e seguendo profili affini, ma soprattutto profili "umani" e non automatici.
Mi sono iscritto a Friendica, ma non c’è nessuno! No, non è così…Friendica è un progetto nato per dare agli utenti di Facebook un ambiente social rispettoso del principio “privacy by default”.
Ma l’utente che non lo sa, rischia di trovarsi solo e non sapere perché…informapirata.it/2021/09/03/mi…
#Friendica #ImpostazioniDiPrivacy #Poliverso
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Mi sono iscritto a Friendica, ma non c’è nessuno! No, non è così…
Friendica è un progetto nato per dare agli utenti di Facebook un ambiente social rispettoso del principio "privacy by default". Ma l'utente che…informapirata
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I tag HTML sono comparsi da soli, ad un certo punto, prima non c'erano. Da Raccoon comunque non si vedono, pensavo fosse tornato normale, controllerò dal PC.
Confermo, da PC i tag HTML si vedono. Sistemerò ma non so perché siano comparsi.
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Adesso ho ripulito tutto, speriamo non torni come prima con i tag HTML.
confermo che è tutto ok. Forse Sono anche riuscito a capire il motivo di quei tag, ma voglio prima prendermi un po' di tempo per fare qualche verifica, Anche perché se è come penso non si tratta di un problema ripetibile.
Il tuo profilo Comunque adesso si vede così.
A proposito modi per migliorare la visibilità del tuo profilo, Ti consiglio di scrivere un post di introduzione e di fissarlo. La stessa cosa la puoi fare scrivendo un messaggio con il tuo account di gruppo; per esempio potresti fissare questo post: poliverso.org/display/0477a01e…
E' nato un gruppo per persone appassionate alla Fisica
E' appena nato un gruppo Friendica per parlare un po' di #Fisica.Non ci sono limiti ai temi che si possono trattare, va bene la fisica classica, la teoria della relatività, la fisica quantistica... va bene tutto, basta che sia Fisica.
Sarebbe gradito che chi decidesse di frequentare il gruppo mettesse qualche parola per presentarsi e dire se è una persona "semplicemente" appassionata alla Fisica o se svolge attività in questo settore (docente scuola superiore, docente università, ricercatore, ecc.) e magari quali argomenti la interessano di più o di quali si occupa.
Spero che qualche utente tra voi decida di seguire e che questo possa essere utile per rispondere alle tante curiosità che la materia fa venire.
A presto.
Sì anche fissare un post potrebbe essere una buona idea.
Una domanda, un post di presentazione non è un po' un doppione della presentazione che già si vede sotto la mia foto profilo?
Oppure suggerisci di scegliere uno dei post generici della timeline e usarlo per dare un'idea di quale tipo di post io faccia?
un post di presentazione non è un po' un doppione della presentazione che già si vede sotto la mia foto profilo?
No, tranquillo 😅
Oppure suggerisci di scegliere uno dei post generici della timeline e usarlo per dare un'idea di quale tipo di post io faccia?
Credo che tu possa fissare fino a 5 messaggi sul tuo profilo. Non hai come su Twitter la possibilità di fissarne soltanto uno, quindi sentiti libero👍
per curiosità, la scelta di impedire la visualizzazione del tuo profilo da parte di visitatori anonimi è deliberata oppure è stata casuale?
Mi riferisco a
Hide your public content from anonymous viewers
Anonymous visitors will only see your basic profile details. Your public posts and replies will still be freely accessible on the remote servers of your followers and through relays.
Non è stata voluta, una di queste sere cerco di sistemare anche quello. Devo solo individuare il parametro giusto ma la sezione in cui cercare la conosco.
Credo di avere sistemato la cosa ma non so come verificare.
Ho visto che c'è la possibilità di visualizzare il mio profilo come se fossi un altro utente ma nel menu a tendina in cui scegliere quale utente compaiono solo i miei contatti, non compare per esempio un "anonymous".
C'è modo di controllare come vede il mio profilo qualcuno che non ha nessuna relazione con me?
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@romitaggio Hubzilla è un software molto interessante, benché sia molto poco ergonomico da usare e focalizzato sulla tecnologia più che sull'utente.
Malgrado la visione idilliaca sostenuta da @elvecio l'utilizzo di Hubzilla comporta un'esperienza utente dispersiva e asfittica ed è un peccato, perché la tecnologia alla base del protocollo di comunicazione è davvero eccellente.
A causa di queste limitazioni, la comunità mondiale è composta da un migliaio scarso di utenti, di cui -come sempre- una percentuale non irrisoria è costituita da bot.
Se vuoi provare Hubzilla, ti segnalo questa istanza italiana: hubzilla.diaspo.it/
@DataKnightmare già... se ne sono resi conto gli account progressisti che rivendicavano i loro grandi successi social nei periodi in cui gender, pride, intersezionalità, woke, equality, diversity erano sovrastimati dagli algoritmi. Ma è bastata una taratura diversa e d'improvviso questi account (inclusi tanti movimenti e partiti) hanno iniziato a vedersi più che dimezzare reazioni, condivisioni e risposte.
Così si chiedevano "Uh, come mai adesso non mi si fila più nessuno?" e ogni tanto qualcuno gli rispondeva "Tranquilli, anche prima non vi si è mai filato nessuno!" 😂
@max
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Nella mia esperienza, la "grammatica" di Mastodon è diversa da quella di Facebook.
Le cose cambiano molto da istanza a istanza, ma contenuti che là sopra funzionano qui hanno poca risonanza e viceversa. Non posso vedere il tuo profilo (altro aspetto limitante) ma ti direi di provare a parlare di aspetti diversi della tua personalità.
Un'altra cosa importante: devi cercare attivamente chi seguire. Esplora la timeline generale, della tua istanza e di altre, segui e ti seguiranno.
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@PaoloParti vi assicuro che Poliverso è un'istanza connessa molto bene con tutte le istanze italiane, con tutte le principali istanze straniere e presenta anche un'ottima connessione con l'universo ddelle comunità "Lemmy".
Mi raccomando però di non rimanere sulla timeline locale ma di spaziare sulla timeline federata o sulla timeline della propria lingua
@elvecio vai, cercateli da solo...
Che poi, fino a 10 minuti fa non ti era neanche chiaro il concetto di bot, ma fai l'offeso per l'ovvietà che ho affermato, ossia la quota fisiologica di bot che impatta sulle statistiche degli utenti attivi. Per non parlare degli utenti che utilizzano più di un account ma che sono comunque sempre la stessa persona. E Hubzilla non è immune da questo fenomeno fisiologico, Ma se ti fosse chiaro, non avresti fatto il tifoso offeso
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@elvecio sì, sono delle trovate che dal punto di vista architetturale sono geniali, superano tanti limiti del protocollo ActivityPub e sono anche diventati un modello per il protocollo at di Blue Sky.
Purtroppo, però, mentre Activitypub è uno standard certificato a livello internazionale e estremamente flessibile (essendo sotto molti punti di vista un non-protocollo), Zot è un protocollo molto rigido e, come se non bastasse, gli sviluppatori di hubzilla (non ho mai usato streams) hanno realizzato un'interfaccia che sembra amichevole come quella di un NAS, ma meno divertente e più complicata.
Non parliamo poi dell'app Nomad, che è inguardabile.
Io nutro un profondo rispetto per questi esperimenti tecnologici e per chi ha dedicato tempo, soldi e risorse intellettuali per svilupparli, ma salvo migrazioni di massa di cigni neri con tanto di dotazione d'arma a base di cetrioli volanti, mi sembra evidente che il futuro di Hubzilla e del protocollo Zot sia segnato
@romitaggio @elvecio @Massimiliano Polito 🇪🇺🇮🇹
potenzialmente il software sia buono,
Togli pure il "potenzialmente": penso che sia lo stato dell'arte per la gestione per esempio di hub familiari
ma che all'atto pratico non abbia (ancora) riscosso successo
Qui invece puoi togliere "ancora". Non avrà mai successo e quando parlo di successo non intendo riconoscimento globale e copertina sul Time, Ma intendo proprio che molto probabilmente il progetto vedrà diminuire sempre di più contributori e utenti
perché poco user friendly, mancando dell'immediatezza di altre soluzioni social...
Il fatto che sia poco user friendly non è stata la motivazione principale dell’insuccesso di hubzilla, mentre è stato molto più decisivo il fatto che l'80% dsgli utenti conosce solo mastodon, mastodon e mastodon. Anche progetti ben fatti e di un certo successo relativo come Misskey, Lemmy e Pixelfed soffrono tantissimo questa concorrenza interna, mentre piattaforme ben più scalabili come Pleroma o flessibili come Friendica, rischiano di rimanere intrappolate in un limbo eterno
@elvecio Ti capisco benissimo in quanto utente Friendica. Non è facile rinunciare alle potenzialità di una piattaforma oggettivamente Superiore.
Poi però bisogna anche fare i conti con il fatto che io utilizzo Mastodon per più della metà del tempo così come vedo che tu utilizzi Mitra per comunicare con noi e non Hubzilla.
La comodità è uno dei motori più importanti.
PS: approfitto per di condividere questo memino pubblicato tempo fa da @Lorenzo
scusa max ma ho dato un'occhiata al tuo profilo e ho notato che non utilizzi mai gli hashtags nei post.
Usandone qualcuno potresti raggiungere persone che non ti seguono ma interessate all'argomento del post, altrimenti diventa difficile scoprirlo(soprattutto in federata).
Io comincerei da qui ad esempio.
Spero che questo consiglio possa aiutarti.
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@elvecio @Lorenzo @Massimiliano Polito 🇪🇺🇮🇹 @romitaggio
perché io ho problemi con activitypub nel mio sito ( o sarebbe meglio dire col mastoverso e non tutto activitypub)
Grazie El Vecio.
Vostro onore, non ho altre domande per il testimone 🤣🤣🤣
Per me invece è importante avere rapporti con gli altri frequentatori di un social network, se mi bastasse scrivere e non mi importasse niente di essere letto o di avere interazioni con gli altri mi basterebbe un computer senza neanche un collegamento ad internet e un editor ASCII.
E quello che hai scritto sulla ricerca di "cuoricini" mi sembra una lettura un po' troppo superficiale.
Il fediverso è diviso in gruppi più o meno tematici e autoreferenziali. L'autoreferenzialità è comune in tutti i social network di qualunque natura essi siano. Dove esiste un meccanismo automatico di proposta è inevitabile che si entri in contatto con simili/contrari pronti ad approvare ma anche a disapprovare le proprie esternazioni. In queste lande desolate che chiamiamo fediverso e in cui (per adesso) il meccanismo è sostanzialmente cronologico, la probabilità che i nostri aulici scritti incontrino è estremamente bassa. Il social cosiddetto commmerciale ha come intento la massimizzazione delle interazioni, fanno dati e profilazioni rivendibili. Qui nella media siamo tutti dei disadattati che tirano su istanze che nascono e muoiono a tempo di record. Va tenuto conto anche della vita media del post che per esigenze di risorse di sistema, è spesso breve.
L'apparizione è più volatile e bisogna sempre trovarsi nel posto giusto al momento giusto per captare qualcosa di interessante in mezzo alla miriade di stronzate. È un lavoro più da minatori e meno da pappa pronta.
Se vuole essere visto, migri su istanze ben posizionate con molti utenti (vada pure sull'uno che come lui non c'è nessuno), magari su più istanze posizionate e scriva a manetta per trovarsi il più possibile in cima alla timeline; usi gli hashtag, anzi abbondi. Spulci le timeline locali e federate e gratifichi gli altri per essere gratificato; la gente è sempre la stessa, le mette i like loro mettono i like in un reciproco (talvolta forzato) volersi bene.
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Questo post l'ho visto rilanciato da @PaoloParti@snowfan.masto.host .
Il Fediverso è un po' strano, specialmente quando si federano applicativi diversi. Tu sei su Friendica credo?
A volte i problemi di visibilità ci sono e dipendono da come funziona Mastodon o ActivityPub (che è il protocollo su cui si basa l'interazione tra istanze, diciamo).
A volte m'è capitato di perdere completamente di vista persone oppure di avere la TL piena di loro post se ci interagivo una volta.
Ad un certo punto ho smesso di preoccuparmi delle interazioni.
Se qualcuno risponde bene, se qualcuno boosta meglio, se non c'è visibilità pazienza, prima o poi ci sarà.
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Non aggiungo molto altro a quanto ti è già stato detto. Se vuoi interazioni potrebbe essere utile anche "stanare" le persone che conosci in modo da stimolare una loro reazione. Puoi approfittare anche per esplorare altre istanze partendo dalla timeline federata. E poi pazienza e interventi nelle discussioni, senza paura. #mastodon
P.s. se riesci sistema la formattazione della tua descrizione 😉
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Cavolo! Condoglianze per tutto... 😢
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Infatti, motivo per cui sto qui 😁
CC: @mzan74@fedi.bobadin.icu @max@poliverso.org @PaoloParti@snowfan.masto.host
Tutto qui.
@elvecio io lo uso dal 2019 ma sono admin dal 2020. In questo periodo è migliorato tantissimo e ha risolto alcuni problemi architetturali e di sicurezza che erano rimasti pendenti per troppo tempo.
Purtroppo non è ancora stato trovato un buon bilanciamento tra il numero impressionante di funzionalità e una gestione ergonomica delle stesse, ma il miglioramento secondo me è evidente.
Ultimamente poi ho cercato di promuovere lo sviluppo di un'app e lo sviluppatore di Raccoon for Lemmy ha raccolto la sfida e ha realizzato un'app meravigliosa (Raccoon for Friendica) che peraltro riesce a funzionare con mastodon dando anche qualche cosa in più. Quindi adesso esiste anche una bella app Android che potrebbe essere portata senza neanche troppo sforzo su piattaforma iOS. Insomma, non posso lamentarmi affatto.
Purtroppo Mastodon detta legge perché è più facile e soprattutto perché ha potuto contare sulla continuità ergonomica sugli utenti ex Twitter che avevano abbandonato la vecchia piattaforma. Gli utenti Facebook, quelli virtualmente più affini a Friendica, invece non abbandonano Facebook e se lo abbandonano abbandonano proprio i social.
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@elvecio in realtà ho iniziato con Mastodon e sono rimasto con mastodon (come informapirata, per esempio) ma poi ho creato un'istanza Friendica (poliverso.org) una Lemmy (feddit.it) e una Mastodon (poliversity.it), ma con il fork glitch-soc.
Mastodon mi piace moltissimo, lo uso veramente quanto tutti gli altri account Friendica: è come un Pandino. Ma quando possiedi un fuoristrada anfibio con un'elica per voli brevi, il Pandino non ti basta più 🤣
È però vero che qui dove non si pesano i like la gente è meno invitata ad apporli, e soprattutto non è che uno debba sempre avere un'opinione su tutto quello che legge. Spesso se lo assapora e buona lì.
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Parlando per esperienza personale, le interazioni sul #fediverso mi sono arrivate e continuo ad arrivare quando:
1️⃣ Ho cominciato a seguire 200 account e quasi altrettanti hanno deciso di farlo
2️⃣ Gli accounts che seguo sono stati scelti sulla presenza di interessi comuni o affini
3️⃣ Seguo hashtags legati ai suddetti interessi (e dunque followo). Ad esempio #running #kdrama #fitness sono communities belle attive
4️⃣ Blocco e ammutolisco tutto ciò che non mi piace/interessa
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un altro problema, nel tuo caso specifico potrebbe essere la bio (vedi immagine). L'app Megalodon non interpreta i tag HTML a meno che tu non specifichi che è HTML quando la crei.
Last but not least, do ut des. Si ricevono interazioni quando si interagisce (bene).
#Mastodon non è Instagram con un algoritmo che diffonde i contenuti processando quello che scrivi. Se vuoi raggiungere le persone attraverso condivisioni è imperativo usare gli hashtags
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Questi tag sono comparsi all'improvviso, non capisco perché. Dalla mia app è tutto normale però oggi mi sono accorto che da PC li vedo anche io. Adesso sistemo.
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#sexyverso #sexonfediverse #roccoeisuoifriediCis #AAAmastodontesinglecercasi
Sono esterrefatto, ho avuto mezzo miliardo di risposte e altrettante richieste di amicizia (ma soprattutto alcune informazioni che non conoscevo o la cui importanza avevo sottovalutato).
Io li ho ascoltati praticamente tutti e non ne trovo di nuovi. In crisi di astinenza sto riascoltando i vecchi 😀
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I didn't know my profile was restricted, I'll try to better understand that privacy issue in my account configuration, thanks.
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@Enzo A24 qui òìaccount @Fedi.Tips lo spiega molto bene:
In generale, il tuo server può vedere i seguenti contenuti:- Tutti gli account sul tuo server
- Tutti i post pubblicati dagli account sul tuo server
- Tutti i post condivisi da almeno un account sul tuo server
- Tutti gli account che hanno almeno un follower sul tuo server
- Tutti i post pubblicati da account che hanno almeno un follower sul tuo server
- Tutti i post condivisi dagli account che hanno almeno un follower sul tuo server
- Tutti i post dei gruppi che hanno almeno un follower sul tuo server
- Tutte le risposte ai post sul tuo server
- Tutti i post che menzionano account sul tuo server
- Tutti gli account che hanno risposto ai post sul tuo server o hanno menzionato account sul tuo server
- Tutti i post che sono stati cercati tramite l'indirizzo web della loro pagina originale
- Tutti gli account che sono stati cercati tramite il loro indirizzo account
- Tutti gli account che sono stati menzionati nei post che il tuo server ha notato
- Tutti i post vengono inviati al tuo server da un server relay, i relay vengono aggiunti ai server dagli amministratori
- Tutti i post vengono inviati al tuo server tramite script, ad esempio lo script Hypebot invia i post di tendenza da altri server al tuo. Gli script vengono generalmente aggiunti da amministratori tecnicamente qualificati.
Ma tieni presente che Friendica mostra la timeline in modo diverso: quando un thread di un utente che segui riceve un nuovo commento (oppure quando un thread riceve un nuovo commento di un utente che segui), quel thread lo vedi di nuovo al primo posto nella tua timeline.
In un certo senso la visualizzazione di Mastodon è quella tipica di twitter, quella di Friendica è tipica di facebook, con la differenza che l'unico algoritmo è puramente "cronologico" e non condizionato dalla presunzione preferenziale della piattaforma
Per essere visibile in quella "locale" ti devi far ribloggare da qualcuno dell'altra istanza.
No, questo è quello che succede nella Timeline personalizzata, dove puoi vedere le ricondivisioni dei tuoi contatti. Al contrario, nel 99% delle istanze mastodon, nella locale puoi vedere solo ed esclusivamente messaggi di utenti della tua istanza.
Proprio per ovviare a questo problema ho fatto in modo che nella Timeline locale della nostra istanza mastodon poliversity.it fossero visibili anche le ricondivisioni di contenuti prodotti dagli utenti remoti quando queste sono effettuate da utenti locali
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@Enzo A24 confermo tutto. Le app possono davvero condizionare la tua esperienza di uso.
Premesso che secondo me la versione web di mastodon è davvero ben fatta, le notifiche web funzionano bene sullo smartphone e non ci sono bug da tantissimi anni, una buona app può darti la possibilità di vivere il fediverso in modo davvero diverso.
Se sei curioso di provare un app diversa dal solito, puoi provare a scaricare Raccoon for Friendica, che a dispetto del nome funziona molto bene anche con mastodon.
È disponibile sui principali Store ma se ne hai le capacità ti consiglio di scaricare manualmente il file apk da github.com
Benché si tratti di una app più immatura rispetto a quelle più conosciute, è l'unica app che consente una gestione ottimale dei gruppi Activity pub anche per gli utenti mastodon
Se non sai di preciso cosa sono i gruppi Activitypub puoi dare un'occhiata a questo link
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Come mai consigli di scaricare l'apk?
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@Max 🇪🇺🇮🇹 al momento preferisco scaricare il file .apk perché l'app esiste solo da un anno e quindi ogni nuovo rilascio in beta corregge qualche piccola imperfezione rispetto all'ultimo rilascio ufficiale. Al momento per esempio l'ultimo rilascio ufficiale non consente una corretta modifica dei post già pubblicati. All'interno degli Store infatti non vengono rilasciate le Beta A meno che non ci si sia iscritti al programma di beta testing. Oltretutto in questo momento lo sviluppatore sta lavorando ad alcune modifiche di natura architetturale che vengono rilasciate solo in beta.
Ripeto, stiamo parlando di un'app abbastanza nuova e penso che già entro la fine dell'anno saranno stati superati tutti questi aspetti di stabilizzazione dello sviluppo
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Re: Mi sento come una particella di sodioNon ho quasi mai alcuna reazione ai miei post, né commenti, né like, né condivisioni.
Non credo che i i post scritti da una istanza raggiungano le altre istanze se non c'è un server relay che prende i post provenienti da tutte le istanze e li ridistribuisca a tutte le altre istanze in una timeline globale. Si porrebbe il problema di chi mantiene il server relay. I tuoi post raggiungono le istanze di chi in quelle istanze ti segue. Comunque gli amministratori di istanza possono collegare la propria istanza a specifici relay che prendono e rilanciano i messaggi di altre specifiche istanze. Io nella mia istanza Mastodon, come in foto, ho attivato alcuni ripetitori da altre istanze che mi interessano e vedo i messaggi degli utenti di quelle istanze nella mia timeline federata. Ma i miei messaggi non raggiungono tutti gli utenti di quelle istanze, raggiungono solo quelli che in qualche modo mi seguono.
Non credo che i i post scritti da una istanza raggiungano le altre istanze se non c'è un server relay che prende i post provenienti da tutte le istanze e li ridistribuisca a tutte le altre istanze in una timeline globale
È giusto così: non tutti i post devono essere distribuiti in tutte le altre istanze, ma soltanto quelli degli utenti che sono connessi ad altri utenti appartenenti a tali istanze.
I relay sono comodi Se vuoi creare un network di istanze, Oppure se vuoi Popolare artificialmente la tua istanza con determinati contenuti provenienti da determinate istanze.
Ma i relay comportano un carico di lavoro per il server che è assolutamente ingiustificabile. Per una questione puramente statistica, più della metà dei contenuti prodotti in una istanza sono insignificanti per un utente qualsiasi. È proprio per questo che la distribuzione dei messaggi viene focalizzata in base al rapporto tra follower
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Re: Mi sento come una particella di sodioNon ho quasi mai alcuna reazione ai miei post, né commenti, né like, né condivisioni.
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Piattaforme di interazione digitale libere (Fediverso). 10 Giugno 2025 dalle 18.00 alle 19.30
Esiste uno svariato numero di servizi liberi, decentralizzati e federati che permettono di scambiarsi messaggi e altri materiali con la nostra cerchia di persone senza finire nei recinti creati dalla piattaforme commerciali più note. Tali servizi, raggruppati sotto il nome di Fediverso, si distinguono per avere una rete di istanze (nodi della rete) indipendenti a livello di esecuzione, ciascuna avente i propri termini di servizio e le proprie regole per la riservatezza e per la moderazione, e interconnesse tra loro con il protocollo ActivityPub.
Durante il corso della serata scopriremo quali sono, quali istanze scegliere e cosa possiamo farci.
Mastodon, ad esempio, è un software libero e una rete sociale di microblogging decentralizzato che permette di pubblicare messaggi brevi. Simile a X e creato nel 2016.
Pixelfed è una piattaforma di condivisione di immagini condivise simile a Instagram e connessa con tutto il Fediverso.
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@Emanuele Cariati è piuttosto improbabile, dal momento che si tratta di un corso organizzato dalla biblioteca Rovereto. Tuttavia domattina potresti provare a contattarli via email o telefonicamente:
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Volendo, potresti chiedere anche a @Roberto Resoli che è uno dei due relatori
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@Emanuele Cariati questa è l'istanza peertube di linuxTrent
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Dalla tua istanza puoi seguire qui l'account peertube @rresoli
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@rresoli@video.linuxtrent.it @linuxtrent @emanuelecariati esatto! La diretta (e successivamente il video) appariranno nel canale incontri:
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@linuxtrent @emanuelecariati Video dell'incontro sul #Fediverso pubblicato nel canale 'Incontri' della nostra istanza Peertube!
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🚧 Avviso di manutenzione e migrazione servizi Devol 🚧
#CryptPad
A partire dal 4 giugno, il servizio su cryptpad.devol.it potrebbe risultare offline.
Stiamo infatti procedendo con la migrazione su un server dedicato più veloce.
#FreshRSS
⚠️ È obbligatorio esportare il proprio file OPML entro il giorno 12 giugno, così da salvare l’elenco dei propri feed con cui si potrà ricreare l’account.
Grazie per la collaborazione e la pazienza!
Il team #Devol
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Qualche alternativa ai prodotti delle #BigTech: rebeltechalliance.org/stopusin… #GAFAM #FOSS #privacy #alternative #opensource #SoftwareLibero
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grazie, ottima risorsa, abbiamo riciclato la bellissima mappa qui: mastodon.uno/@devol/1146025816…
su cui vengono segnalati anche servizi italiani (se presenti).
Anche fra chi è impegnato in prima linea su temi politici o sociali si continua ad usare con disinvoltura strumenti come Google, WhatsApp o InstagramMa per chi sta cercando alternative libere, etiche e gestite in Europa, consigliamo di dare un’occhiata a:
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@sabrinaweb71 eh già! È stato realizzato da @ma1
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E complimenti anche per il tuo nickname ma1 (maone 😄).
Scusaci se non ti citiamo spesso (anzi mai!) tra gli script consigliati: cercheremo di rimediare e dare a NoScript più spazio 😅 @informapirata @sabrinaweb71 @lealternative @dado @nilocram @scuola@a.gup.pe @scuola@poliverso.org @maupao @prealpinux @alephoto85 @simonezanella @noscript
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Unabhängige soziale Netzwerke: Wie können sie massentauglich werden? | re:publica
Die re:publica Berlin ist das Festival für die digitale Gesellschaft und die größte Konferenz ihrer Art in Europa. Die Teilnehmer*innen der re:publica bilden einen Querschnitt unserer (digitalen) Gesellschaft.republica
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The Surf app goes even deeper on building custom feeds for the fediverse and Bluesky, , a crowdfunding campaign for the PeerTube mobile app, and updates to the bridge between the fediverse and Bluesky.
Fediverse Report – #118The Surf app goes even deeper on building custom feeds for the fediverse and Bluesky, , a crowdfunding campaign for the PeerTube mobile app, and updates to the bridge between the fediverse and Bluesky.
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The News
Surf is a new app by Flipboard, that describes itself as a browser for the open social web. The app allows people to build and browse custom feeds, that take in content from across the open social web. It can combine Mastodon posts with Bluesky posts, as well as RSS and more, into a single feed. With their most recent update, Surf has created Starter Sets for building custom feeds. Starter Sets are organised around various popular themes, like News, Tech or Sports. Within these themes, people can choose from a large variety of data sources to get started with building their own custom feeds. These custom feed sources can be from across the open social web and are modular. This means that a list of Mastodon accounts can be combined with a Bluesky custom feed to create a new single custom feed that consists of both data source. These custom feeds can also be published to Bluesky, so people who are not using the Surf app can also view these feeds.Surf also now offers a variety of tools to manage the content of a custom feed. For example, a feed can be customised to include or exclude reposts, replies or adult content. There are also options to filter out posts about politics from the feed. The ability to filter about posts about Elon Musk is surely a popular feature as well. Surf categorises all posts via algorithmic clustering, which gives the ability to limit posts in a feed to a certain topic. This means that you can add an account to a feed, but only their posts related to the specified topic will be displayed. The app is currently in closed beta, and Flipboard is gradually onboarding more people from the waiting list.
PeerTube is starting a crowdfunding campaign for its mobile app. The first version of the PeerTube app was officially launched earlier this month. PeerTube is developed by Framasoft, a French non-profit organisation that builds a variety of open source software tools. The crowdfunding campaign is a way to raise money for the organisation, and also provides a way “to gauge public enthusiasm for the mobile application and the PeerTube project in general”. Some of the features that PeerTube wants to work on for its app are the ability to play videos in background, casting videos to TVs, managing channels and accounts directly from the app. Livestreaming from mobile is also being worked on, although Framasoft says they do not expect to release this in 2025. Framasoft says that these features will be worked on regardless of whether the fundraising goals are met, and that otherwise money from the generic Framasoft budget will be used, as a way to show their dedication towards PeerTube.
Mastodon has announced some upcoming new features that help server admins with the legal side. Server admins will be able to set a Terms of Service (ToS), besides server rules and a privacy policy. Server admins will also be able to set the server rules into multiple different languages. There will also be the option to set a minimum age requirement for sign-up for servers. Having a ToS is standard fare for any online platform, and multiple countries require by law that platforms have these. Europe’s DSA is fairly explicit about this, which states: “Providers of intermediary services shall include information on any restrictions that they impose in relation to the use of their service in respect of information provided by the recipients of the service, in their terms and conditions.” In that context, it is high time that Mastodon has added the ability for servers to set a ToS. Mastodon also says that they will provide a template for a ToS that other servers can use if they so desire.
A New Social, the organisation behind Bridgy Fed, has launched a dedicated page for people to manage their account bridging. Bridgy Fed is a piece of software that allows people to ‘bridge’ their account across multiple protocols. This allows people on the fediverse to interact with people on Bluesky (using AT Protocol). For this, people need to manually opt-in their accounts to be bridged to other networks (largely due to cultural reasons from the fediverse communities). Up until now, doing so was a fairly confusing process that involved manually following other accounts. With the new update, people can log in to Bridgy Fed with the account they want to bridge, and simply turn it on or off. It also has an easier option to update the handles for Mastodon accounts that are bridged to Bluesky. For example, by default my Mastodon account on Bluesky can be found at @laurenshof.indieweb.social.ap.brid.gy, which is a fairly cumbersome handle, to put it mildly. At the settings page I can now change it to any handle I want, similar to how any Bluesky account can change their handle. A New Social is also launching a Patreon as they are working towards financial sustainability, with plans to launch merch soon as well.
Ibis is a federated wiki platform that is currently in development, made by nutomic, one of the Lemmy creators. With the most recent update, Ibis wiki articles are now compatible with Lemmy, and can be viewed directly from Lemmy. One of the driving reasons for making Ibis is that nutomic views Wikipedia as untrustworthy. He also says that other centralised Wikipedia alternatives have failed to gain traction, and sees federation as a solution for this. For now, Ibis has the same problem of getting traction.
Tvmarks is a new self-hosted platform to keep track of shows you’ve watched. It gives you a clean overview of shows you are watching, which ones you’ve completed, and provide reviews and ratings per episode. This information can be federated via ActivityPub, allowing others to see what you’ve been watching.
The Links
- WriteFreely creator Matt Baer shares some of his thoughts and plans for the write.as platform for 2025.
- This week’s fediverse software updates.
- Upcoming photo sharing platform Vernissage gives an update on the work and design considerations for the last month.
- A thread on how the name ‘ActivityPub’ came to be.
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Bridgy Fed Config & Patreon
Today, we're launching two projects we've been excited to unveil for a while: a settings page for Bridgy Fed and a Patreon for all the folks who have asked us how they can support our work.A New Social
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Updating some legal features
Setting up optional Terms of Service, server rules translations and age requirements - new features coming in Mastodon 4.4.Mastodon Blog
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Wonderful additions to really help provide communities with better control.
I would love for you to add an optional age verification method to allow better control of what content the user wants to interact with.
Anyone can fake their age but please add some good custom emoji to this server. 95% custom emoji sucks here. And can you please add some more custom field in profile like Fedibird? It has 8 custom field while Mastodon has 4.
Thanks
Mastodon — Translation Project on Crowdin
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Bringing Quote Posts to Mastodon
Sharing our thinking and progress on bringing Quote Posts to Mastodon, with a goal to create a safe and respectful space for everyone.Mastodon Blog
When do we finally get those algorithms to decide what we need to see?
And when can we expect ads?
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"compared to an average post on facebook, what is the ranking...google among the relevant topics? ChatGPT said:
Google ranking: because Mastodon instances aren’t optimized for SEO, even highly boosted toots usually fall on page 2–3 (positions 15–30) in Google results for related keyword searches
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Bluesky begins rolling out support for livestreaming on other platforms, Leaflet is a blogging and publishing platform that has added ATProto integration, easier bridging between ATProto and other protocols, and a whole lot more.
Bluesky Report – #117Bluesky begins rolling out support for livestreaming on other platforms, Leaflet is a blogging and publishing platform that has added ATProto integration, easier bridging between ATProto and other protocols, and a whole lot more.
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Bluesky is starting to roll out a new feature where people can add their Twitch and YouTube livestreams to their account, and the Bluesky app will display an indicator on your profile that you are live. Bluesky is rolling out the feature slowly, with only a select few accounts being able to go live so far. It is mainly focused on sports communities so far, with the NBA being one of the first partners. Bluesky is taking it slow with this feature, CTO Paul Frazee said that major effort is in verifying if the linked account on the streaming platform is the same person as the Bluesky account. Another concern is moderation, Bluesky is only linking to Twitch and YouTube, as these are platforms with a well-established moderation infrastructure. For example Bluesky wants ATProto streaming platform Streamplace to have solid moderation in place before it is considered to be added as a potential source of livestreams. Similar to how Bluesky has rolled out verification, some core pieces of how going live works as only accessible on ATProto, and available for others to use. Bluesky client TOKIMEKI already added the ability for any user to go live. However, same as with verification, this is only visible to other people who also use TOKIMEKI. The real impact of a livestreaming integration will likely come when the feature becomes more widely available, but for now it is already a good demonstration of Bluesky’s willingness to send traffic outside of their app. While Big Tech platforms are taking greater and greater efforts to stop people from leaving their app, Bluesky is taking the opposite approach, by adding features which make people switch to another app.Leaflet is a publishing platform where anyone can easily create and publish their own documents, posts and pages. These documents can be shared as simple web pages, with a lot of features for customisation. Leaflet’s latest update is Leaflet Publications, which adds ATProto integration. They describe the update as Leaflet becoming as a social publishing platform. With the update, you can now create a ‘publication’, which is a collection of documents and posts. For this you log into Leaflet with your ATProto (Bluesky) account, so that the data is stored on ATProto on your PDS. This makes Leaflet an ATProto blogging platform similar to WhiteWind. Future plans include for more social integration, such as subscribing, commenting, following and more. The organisation says that the key goals is to build social publishing, and to support creators, with paid subscriptions being “a high priority and on our roadmap”.
A New Social, the organisation behind Bridgy Fed, has launched a dedicated page to for people to manage their account bridging. Bridgy Fed is a piece of software that allows people to ‘bridge’ their account across multiple protocols. This allows people on Mastodon (using the ActivityPub protocol) to interact with people on Bluesky (using AT Protocol). For this, people need to manually opt-in their accounts to be bridged to other networks (largely due to cultural reasons from the fediverse communities). Up until now, doing so was a fairly confusing process that involved manually following other accounts. With the new update, people can log in to Bridgy Fed with the account they want to bridge, and simply turn it on or off. It also has an easier option to update the handles for Mastodon accounts that are bridged to Bluesky: for example, by default my Mastodon account on Bluesky can be found at @laurenshof.indieweb.social.ap.brid.gy, which is a fairly cumbersome handle, to put it mildly. At the settings page I can now change it to any handle I want, similar to how any Bluesky account can change their handle. A New Social is also launching a Patreon as they are working towards financial sustainability, with plans to launch merch soon as well.
Custom feed builder Graze has released an integration with Patreon. This integration gives feed creators two new options. Feed creators can now give members of their Patreon the ability to see their custom feeds without sponsored content. They can also limit access to their custom feed to only members of their Patreon. Custom feeds present a large amount of new design space to explore, and they can be used for a wide variety of purposes. One of those is using custom feeds as a form of community, as Blacksky is doing, for example. Restricting access to a a custom feed to only members of a Patreon is another step in the direction of ‘feeds as communities’.
Grain Social is a new photo sharing app build on ATProto. The app is for creating and sharing galleries of photos. The app uses it’s own lexicon, giving people a space to upload and share photos that do not automatically end up on Bluesky. The app has some simple features right now: a timeline that shows all the galleries and photo’s that are created on the platform, and the ability for people to upload photos and create galleries.
Germ Network is an end-2-end encrypted (E2EE) messaging app that is currently in development. The app has announced that they are working on ATProto integration, where people can use Germ Network with their ATProto account. The actual E2EE messaging happens off-protocol. Germ Network says that they are hoping for a common on-protocol implementation in the future, where Germ Network and other ATProto messaging apps can interoperate. A thread by Germ Network CEO Tessa Brown also illustrates why platforms are interested in integrating with ATProto: getting a new social platform off the ground without an existing social graph is incredibly hard. ATProto provides the possibility for other platforms to tap into an existing social graph. This observation is not new, Bluesky PBC has been explicit that this is one of the advantages and design goals of ATProto. We are now starting to see this play out, with new apps that are starting to come out that use ATProto to bootstrap a social graph.
The developers for Bluesky client Flashes said they are working on the concept of a PDS that runs on mobile phones. The Flashes developers are interested in working together with others on this, and have started a Working Group where they have shared their proposed design.
One of the core ideas of ATProto is that the network is effectively one giant pool of data, where a variety of apps and tools can access the same data and process and present that data in a way that fits them best. A Bluesky post can be viewed in the Bluesky Social app for regular
doomscrollingmicroblogging, but the same post can also be opened in a PDS browser tool like PDSls or atp.tools, viewed in Skythread for a threading view, or more. Switching between apps to view the same post in different context is quite cumbersome. at://wormhole is a tool to make this easier, it is an Apple Shortcut that allows easy switching between apps. You can view the same content, using the different context that each app provides. As the ecosystem develops, I’m expecting to see more experimentation and development in this direction.Two new ATProto meetups by community members: in Nashville, USA, on June 1st, and in London, UK, on June 19th.
Software and Platform Updates
- An update for moderation software Ozone (it can now display, issue, and revoke, verification) as well as a new proposal by Bluesky PBC to expand the set of reporting reasons available to users and labelers.
- Streamplace has launched a new tool for OAuth, OATProxy, which helps prevent users being logged out of their apps every few days.
- Streamplace redesigned the homepage, and made their first hire after their funding round.
- Popsky is a media review app on ATProto, and the app is now available for testing on Android as well as iOS. Popsky also supports Goodreads imports now.
- BookHive is another media review platform that added support for Goodreads imports this week.
- Jetrelay is a custom designed relay that is intended to serve a large number of clients with high efficiency.
In the Media
Wired has an extensive interview with Bluesky CEO Jay Graber, and Graber answers a wide variety of questions on the network. Some quotes that stood out to me:
- Graber says that Bluesky is great at sending traffic to news organisations. Wired themselves confirm this, saying that “The platform has become a top traffic driver and source of new subscribers“. Washington Times reporter Drew Harwell also agrees that Bluesky has become a great drive of referral traffic.
- Wired boils down questions of moderation to its core, by asking: “Would you welcome President Trump?” Graber is clear that Bluesky will, saying: “Yeah—Bluesky’s for everyone, and we think that over time, the broader public conversation needs to be on an open protocol. That lets people choose their own moderation preferences. We think that it’s flexible enough to serve every use case and everyone.” The follow-up questions on how Graber relates this to free speech being under thread is worth reading as well.
- On growing the team: “In November, during our growth spurt, we were around 20. Now we’re at 25, and we’ll probably pass 30 soon. We’re growing at a pace that’s sustainable to us.”
- Graber talks about an upcoming ‘communities’ feature that’s scheduled for the end of the year: “A lot of people don’t realize that Bluesky is a bit like Reddit and Twitter at the same time, because you can build feeds that are essentially communities—the science feed is run by scientists, is moderated by scientists, and has its own rules.” The ability to build custom feeds is also planned to come to within the Bluesky app.
- On making money, Graber reiterates the current plans: “Subscriptions are coming soon. The next steps are to look into what marketplaces can span these different applications.”
And some more media coverage:
- Architecting a New Era of Community, with Blacksky’s Rudy Fraser – Mike McCue/ Dot Social podcast
- Will Bluesky be able to rival X or Twitter? – BBC News
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Some interesting and fun experiments in building on ATProto that caught my eye this week:
- A tool to scan your timeline and see how how much every account you follow contributes to your feed. Gives good insight in how dominant the loudest voices can be on your timeline, compared to the Quiet Posters.
- Anyone can change this account’s avatar with a special tool.
- An upcoming game to view art posted on Bluesky in a a 3D art gallery.
- Compare hoses (lol)
- An Apple shortcut to quickly post to ATProto without opening an app.
- Sure why not make your browsing history publicly available on ATProto.
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All the lefties fled to Bluesky following Elon Musk’s Twitter takeover. But CEO Jay Graber says the app is for everyone—and could revolutionize how people communicate online.Kate Knibbs (WIRED)
Introduce IOS Compatibility with Raccoon for Friendica
chore: improve iOS compatibility by AkesiSeli · Pull Request #917 · LiveFastEatTrashRaccoon/RaccoonForFriendica
Technical details This PR is basically the counterpart of all the changes done for RFL#408 in order to be able to run the app on iOS. A picture to prove it really happened:GitHub
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Dear Fedi friends, I need your help!
We are working on motion graphics for the Fediverse promotional video... and we would love to do a sequence at the end with a mosaic of people's profile photos. For that, I need your consent.
If you'd like to have a small cameo in our video, can you let us know if we can use your profile pic?
Thanks! 🙏
Can you please boost this?
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If you need a Mandalorian, no problem for me too 😅
Hi Elena,
I'm not human, but I would highly appreciate it you use my picture too: as Blåhaj the #plushieverse is an important place for me, because here I can be myself, independent from what my human does. If you want to promote the fediverse, then maybe you should also mention that it is a place where plushies can find a home!
227 responses in two hours? Wow!!! Thank youuuu 🥰🥹
Huge thanks to @samaaberg in advance - who has to download the profile photos of people who said yes 😅
Apologies if I can’t thank each and every one of you individually. It’s definitely a “RIP my mentions” sort of day.
I’m really grateful for this community ❤️
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It is a selfie with my artificial limb.
I'd be excited to have my profile photo appear in your video.
Good luck with the production!
Important to maintain representation of middle-aged white guys.
Curious how it's look! 😻
Thnx!
Yep, and those ones as well :
@Boule chiite
@Etre 3
@Le Général Midi (aux ficielles)
@s6xtet@frirndica.xyz
I manage them all...
You're welcome to use my profile picture, as it's for a good cause ... Hugz
Hugz & xXx
That's valid for all photos of my pinned Toots.
Just give me a link to the finished video...
Yes, you can use my profile pic for this. Looking forward to the results 😀
//cc @samaaberg
Not sure if you are looking for logos of small podcasts but feel free to use us if you are.
Too many choices is not a luxury, it's a burden.
Good luck! Looking forward to the vid!
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The Mastodon team will be at re:publica #rp25 in Berlin next week, taking part in a couple of panel discussions.
We're also hosting a side event! If you'd like to join, register via lu.ma/7h454kcp
Mastodon Community Meetup · Luma
Mastodon Hosts a Gathering for re:publica 25 An evening of casual conversation, connection, and community with the people building the decentralised social…lu.ma
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Los factores derechistas y ultra derechistas fueron derrotados
The system is currently deleting a very large amount of old content from the database. This will continue for another three to four days. The load on the server is therefore increased and the queue is longer than usual.
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📰 Flipboard ora federa le testate italiane nel fediverso!!
Ora puoi seguire quotidiani, riviste e siti d’informazione direttamente da #Mastodon, grazie alla federazione degli account ufficiali:
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Comunque sono 2 anni che stanno federando account di testate giornalistiche di tutto il mondo, ora hanno iniziato con quelle italiane, oltre alle 20 che ho segnalato ce ne sono molte altre ma non tutte sono ancora federate con Mastodon & co.
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@sabrinaweb71 @ciccillo@jazztodon.com @lgsp @Neffscape purtroppo il limite di 500 caratteri è tiranno, ho omesso di ire che ogni testate ha degli account federati tematici, ad esempio il pos ne ha 17: flipboard.com/@ilPost
quindi invece di essere travolti alle notizie basta scegliere gli argonenti a cui si è più interessati.
ad esempio la sezione libri de il post è questa qui: flipboard.com/@ilpost/libri-u6…
potete seguirla da mastodon: @libri-ilPost
gli indirizzi sono presenti in alto a destra
@paolocm puoi escludere dalla timeline con le liste esclusive:
mastodon.uno/@unoacademy/11110…
#𝗠𝗮𝘀𝘁𝗼𝗱𝗼𝗻 𝟰.𝟮: 𝗹𝗲 𝗹𝗶𝘀𝘁𝗲 𝗲𝘀𝗰𝗹𝘂𝘀𝗶𝘃𝗲.Ovvero la possibilità di escludere dalla Home i post dei profili che sono stati inseriti in una lista esclusiva.
I casi d'uso sono innumerevoli.
Si potrebbe ad esempio distribuire tutti i profili seguiti in liste esclusive e lasciare che la Home si popoli solo degli hashtag seguiti.Per rendere esclusiva una lista recarsi sulla lista, aprire le impostazioni (simbolo equalizzatore) e abilitare "Nascondi questi post dalla home".
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🔒 Google blocca Nextcloud su Android: è sabotaggio?
L’app Nextcloud per Android subisce un blocco da parte di Google, che ostacola il caricamento dei file!
Nextcloud denuncia l'atto anticompetitivo: nextcloud.com/blog/nextcloud-a…
Soluzione?
✅ Scarica l’app da F-Droid: f-droid.org/packages/com.nextc…
🌐 Vuoi passare ad un cloud etico?
Richiedi 25GB sul Nextcloud di Mastodon Uno:
➡️ cloud.mastodon.uno/apps/forms/…
🚨 Liberiamoci dai monopoli, ora!
#Nextcloud #Google #Privacy #MastodonUno
Unhappy with the recently lost file upload feature in the Nextcloud app for Android? So are we. Let us explain. - Nextcloud
Discover why Nextcloud file uploads for Android app are not working properly, and how Google’s app store rules are hurting Nextcloud users.Christoph Weissthaner (Nextcloud)
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Può essere però in genere quando c'è un aggiornamento Google te lo dice. A me per ora non è arrivato nessun aggiornamento.
A questo punto forse converrebbe non aggiornare...
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Flohra, l'app del riuso, consente di visualizzare le istanze Flohmarkt come Fedimercatino. Ecco come scaricarla
Ecco un'app open source per vusualizzare gli annunci di prodotti usati attraverso la piattaforma del #Fediverso Flohmarkt, libera e federata!
Chi vuole provarla può scaricarla qui e provarla per visualizzare l'istanza italiana @fedimercatino
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0.1.0-alpha02 - RocketInSpace/Flohra
- enhancement: display price in item detail - enhancement: button visibility in item detail - feat: open list of items by hashtag - feat: add possibility to share item by URLCodeberg.org
Flohra, l’app del riuso, consente di visualizzare le istanze Flohmarkt come Fedimercatino. Ecco come scaricarlaEcco un’app open source per vusualizzare gli annunci di prodotti usati attraverso la piattaforma libera e federata Flohmarkt
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#Fedimercatino #Fediverso #Flohmarkt #Flohra #Mercatino #Riuso
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Flohra, l’app del riuso, consente di visualizzare le istanze Flohmarkt come Fedimercatino. Ecco come scaricarla
Ecco un'app open source per vusualizzare gli annunci di prodotti usati attraverso la piattaforma libera e federata Flohmarktinformapirata
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Is it safe to say that if I create an account somewhere with follow requests restriction turned on and boost all @ mentions I get, then this account will act as a kind of private group on Mastodon?
About groups, is there still any work going on to implement native groups in Mastodon?
@MastodonEngineering #mastodev #activitypub #groups
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Restrictions on who can follow you do not directly affect the visibility of your posts.
Post visibility is only affected by the visibility settings of your posts. More info on these at fedi.tips/who-can-see-my-posts…
The only way restricting followers affects visibility is if you make posts with "followers-only" visibility and also restrict who can follow you, which indirectly affects who can see your followers-only posts.
I'm not sure what Mastodon's in-house groups situation is.
Who can see my posts and replies in Mastodon? How do I choose post visibility settings? How do I send DMs in Mastodon? | Fedi.Tips – An Unofficial Guide to Mastodon and the Fediverse
An unofficial guide to using Mastodon and the Fediversefedi.tips
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Just putting a word or two in, because I am interested in the answer and can't find somewhere to follow the thread otherwise.
I'm also desperately looking for a groups sollution to offer members of my FB groups and subscription services won't work for that.
Best "group" sollution I have seen so far is following hashtags here on the Fediverse. UI is still too "geeky" for older users, though, so I'm still looking.
@MaryPot @harald@hub.volse.no
Discourse has just added Fediverse support too, so this is another option for groups.
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Re: @FediTips If I reply to a post from someone who has restricted who can follow them, then who can see my reply?
feditips@social.growyourown.services ahaldorsen@tutoteket.no feel free to reach out if you have trouble setting up or administering NodeBB.
We're on the fediverse, and happy to be here!
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mobilizon was actually built for groups organizing stuff and having a public presence. You can create events associated with the group of course, but also internal discussions, share resources, publish public or private announcements.
@rakoo @harald@hub.volse.no @MaryPot @ahaldorsen
Mobilizon is perhaps more for replacing Facebook Events? Facebook Groups is a bit more forum-like?
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Mobilizon: Event organisation and discovery | Fedi.Tips – An Unofficial Guide to Mastodon and the Fediverse
An unofficial guide to using Mastodon and the Fediversefedi.tips
@MaryPot 🏳️🌈 Friendica's private group management works very well at the moment, but can only be used by other Friendica users. The interface has improved significantly over the past two years, but it could be made even simpler. From this point of view, the Raccoon for Friendica app has improved the Friendica web interface, taking inspiration from the viewing mode present on Lemmy and other software in the "topicverse". By the way, Raccoon for Friendica also works with mastodon accounts and has the same simplified interface for groups, although – as I said before – only public Friendica groups work for Mastodon users, not private ones.
PS: Friendica also has an event manager, quite compatible with Mobilizon, Gancio and the WordPress Event bridge plugin. This makes it a great alternative to Facebook, but of course the problem is always the fact that Facebook's numbers, with all its billions of users, represent the real added value of that infernal platform 🤣
Set up account. Am trying to figure out how groups work. Seems like Friendica is really a hub for oher group servers, such as Lemmy.world?
Because of the pottery aspect of the main group I would love to find a new home for, there are many people not very computer savvy, many of them. Easy navigation/UI is important.
I would love to join this group, but it says I have to be logged in, even though I think I can see it from my Friendica account.
lemmy.world/c/3dprinting
Seems like Friendica is really a hub for oher group servers, such as Lemmy.world?
Friendica is primarily a macroblogging social network and while the topic view is not as nice as Lemmy, Piefed, MBin and NodeBB the group management support is well established.
Because of the pottery aspect of the main group I would love to find a new home for, there are many people not very computer savvy, many of them. Easy navigation/UI is important.
Friendica is not friendly... but it is not that difficult to use either. If you're interested in a user guide, you can translate this post from Italian
informapirata.it/2024/07/25/w-…
I would love to join this group, but it says I have to be logged in, even though I think I can see it from my Friendica account.
lemmy.world/c/3dprinting
Yes, just copy that link and paste it into the Friendica search box: then you'll see that community as if it were any user profile, except that you'll see it marked as a "group". As soon as you follow that account, you can post to that group simply by mentioning the group account in the first message of the thread. You just have to remember to make sure that the first paragraph of the first message is less than 200 characters, because Lemmy's compiler will make it the title of the thread (so you should NEVER put the mention of the account in the first line)
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I do English, Norwegian, Swedish, Danish and German... but no Italian. Do you have a different link for me? 🙂
PS. Wasn't the whole idea of the Fediverse that it would be all-access? Without an account on every site? 🤔
@MaryPot 🏳️🌈 Of course, yes, but this concerns interoperable functions such as reading, replying, reacting.
The more advanced functions however are features that some platforms have and others do not, so they only work within software with the same functionality.
Let me explain:
1) you can view a Mobilizon event from your Mastodon account, but you cannot create an event from Mastodon
2) you can view a peertube video from your Mastodon account, but you cannot upload a video to Peertube from your Mastodon account
3) you can create a new thread in a Friendica or Lemmy group, or reply to a thread in a Lemmy group from your Mastodon account, but you cannot join a private group from your Mastodon account
Sciety ottiene finanziamenti dalla Fondazione NLNet per contribuire a costruire un dibattito sulle pre-stampe
#Sciety sta sperimentando un nuovo livello di comunicazione accademica aperta, che cattura le conversazioni informali sui preprint e le rende accessibili e riutilizzabili. Sciety ha ottenuto nuovi finanziamenti dalla NLNet Foundation per aiutarci a rendere il dibattito sui preprint più aperto, più connesso e più gratificante per i ricercatori.
Nei prossimi sei mesi collaborerà con @bonfire sviluppata anche dall'italiano @bernini per avvicinare le discussioni sui #preprint al cuore della comunicazione accademica, anziché occultarle su piattaforme di social media commerciali e isolate.
Perché è importante il dibattito decentralizzato sui preprint
Al momento, molte discussioni preziose sulle nuove ricerche avvengono su piattaforme come X/Twitter, Bluesky, Slack o tramite e-mail: conversazioni che è facile perdersi, difficili da ritrovare e scollegate dai preprint cui si riferiscono.
l'obiettivo di Sciety è semplificare per i ricercatori:
- Condividere approfondimenti sulle pre-stampe
- Connettersi con altre persone interessate alle stesse aree
- Ottienere riconoscimenti per il tuo contributo alle conversazioni scientifiche
- Mantenere la registrazione di tali discussioni collegate alla ricerca stessa
L'idea di base èiutare le comunità di ricerca, i laboratori, le reti e i gruppi di giovani ricercatori a creare i propri spazi in cui parlare di nuova scienza e a far sì che queste conversazioni siano parte di un quadro più ampio della scoperta della ricerca.
**Cosa stiamo facendo per promuovere un dibattito aperto sui preprint
Con il supporto di #NLNet @nlnet sarà possibile:
- creare una piattaforma comunitaria, progettata appositamente per - consentire ai ricercatori di discutere di preprint in un ambiente aperto e affidabile. Per raggiungere questo obiettivo, stiamo sfruttando il lavoro già svolto su Bonfire.
- collegare il dibattito direttamente a Sciety , in modo che commenti e discussioni vengano visualizzati insieme a valutazioni e recensioni curate.
- semplificare la creazione di spazi di discussione personalizzati per i gruppi di ricerca, con guide e supporto semplici.
- aiutare i ricercatori a ottenere il riconoscimento per il loro contributo, collegare l'impegno ai profili dei ricercatori e incoraggiare contributi costruttivi e visibili.
Sciety collabora con vere e proprie comunità di ricerca per assicurarsi che tutte le loro realizzazioni soddisfino davvero le esigenze dei ricercatori.
Durante tutto il progetto, verranno condivsi regolarmente aggiornamenti da Sciety su ciò che si imparerà e realizzerà
Unisciti a Sciety
Stiamo costruendo un futuro in cui la ricerca in fase iniziale non solo viene condivisa più velocemente, ma viene anche discussa più apertamente, valutata in modo più chiaro e collegata in modo più significativo alla documentazione scientifica. Al momento stiamo cercando ricercatori che desiderino testare le prime versioni , fornire feedback o creare i propri spazi comunitari . Se sei appassionato di scienza aperta, preprint o di creazione di comunità di ricerca migliori, saremmo lieti se ci seguissi, partecipassi e contribuissi a dare forma al futuro.
Il post di @markwilliams su @sciety
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Sciety secures funding from NLNet Foundation to help build discourse around preprints
At Sciety we're pioneering a new layer of open scholarly communication, one that captures informal conversations around preprints and makes them discoverable and reusable.Mark Williams (Sciety)
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Esistono già piattaforme di preprint (e oltre) amministrate da enti di ricerca e finanziate pubblicamente o collettivamente, quali Zenodo, ArXiv o SciElo.. La rete degli archivi aperti condivide i suoi dati con il vecchio protocollo OAI-PMH.
Mancano però dei veri e propri spazi di discussione usati dai ricercatori (come X) ma federati e non centralizzati. Qui si potrebbe davvero fare qualcosa - ammesso e non concesso che i ricercatori smettano di identificare il luogo virtuale della celebrità con X.
Per attirare i ricercatori, si dovrebbe poter fare scraping dei dati di X (e simili) e farli uscire dai silos. Cioè: l'Unione Europea, invece di fare giochini, dovrebbe autorizzare l’interoperabilità competitiva, come suggerito da Doctorow.
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ma l'EU ce l'ha la forza per imporre l'interoperabilità competitiva, che va contro tutto quello che fanno le grandi piattaforme che vogliono il walled garden? Un conto è chiedere che per i cittadini europei ci sia qualche tutela in più, cosa che alla fine è stata accettata anche se a malincuore; però non credo proprio che le piattaforme permetterebbero che anche solo i dati dei cittadini EU fossero interoperabili.
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l'Unione ha il diritto anche se non la volontà per farlo. L'interoperabilità è inoltre un requisito conciliabile con la data protection, ma è facile usare il pretesto del GDPR per procrastinarla (vedi Meta con WhatsApp)
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il diritto ovvio che ce l'abbia. Io parlavo di forza. 😀
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🎉🔬 More news this weekend.
@sciety (eLife's preprint evaluation platform) has secured funding from @nlnet to build a Bonfire flavour for federating preprint reviews and discussions.
This means federated, community-governed spaces for open discourse around scientific preprints outside traditional publishing gatekeepers.
Read the full announcement: blog.sciety.org/sciety-secures…
Sciety secures funding from NLNet Foundation to help build discourse around preprints
At Sciety we're pioneering a new layer of open scholarly communication, one that captures informal conversations around preprints and makes them discoverable and reusable.Mark Williams (Sciety)
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👥 Fediverso e Livello Segreto: una palestra di libertà digitale
🕤 Martedì 13 Maggio, ore 21.30 presso Officina Informatica, via Magolo 32 Empoli
Una chiacchierata con @Kenobit , uno dei fondatori di #LivelloSegreto - un'istanza Mastodon - sulle potenzialità del #Fediverso e delle piattaforme libere, in ottica di libertà e resistenza digitale
Grazie a @Giulia Bimbi per la segnalazione
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As we approach the release of Bonfire 1.0, this isn’t your typical launch announcement. Instead, it’s a moment to reflect on how we’ve built Bonfire, a roadmap of values, methods, and intentions – and an invitation to define what comes next.
In a world of “move fast and break things,” we’ve chosen a different tempo — one rooted in care, deep listening, and collective stewardship...
📣 Read our latest blog post: bonfirenetworks.org/posts/slow…
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@jerrej This post is focusing on the "how" rather than "what" but here's our latest attempt to do that:
Bonfire is a federated social network built by communities, for communities—rooted in autonomy, mutual care, and collective power. Co-create your tools, reclaim your data, and resist manipulation by shaping your own federated digital spaces.
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After putting 30 minutes into trying to understand what you’re doing, i must say it looks very impressive. 🫶 Below’s my take at trying to explain it. Please @bonfire, tell me if this explanation is correct or not. Also, @jerrej and @ghosttie, please tell me if it made it clearer to you what Bonfire is.
“Bonfire Apps is a suite of community building apps that connect with the wider fediverse. One of the apps is Bonfire Social, a microblogging software much like Mastodon. Another one is Bonfire Community, which lets communities discuss in groups and topics. The apps are all open source and lets users host their own instance or join an existing one.
The Bonfire Apps are built by the online collective Bonfire Networks. To sustain development they offer Mosaic, a service that sets up tailored digital spaces.
Lastly, Bonfire is also a flexible framework for building fully custom community tools.”
Here is a demo instance of Bonfire Social:
campground.bonfire.cafe/
Read more about the rest of the apps here:
bonfirenetworks.org/apps/
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Are you near #Bologna Italy?
✊️ Join us today at Làbas - a self-managed social municipality in Bologna, Italy where we're facilitating a collaborative Bonfire workshop with #municipiozero and scift.
Together, we'll install a Bonfire instance and collectively configure extensions, community guidelines, and settings tailored to their specific needs 💅
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📣 Kicking off a week of exciting news from Bonfire by bridging online and offline worlds:✊️ Join us May 9th at Làbas - a self-managed social municipality in Bologna, Italy where we're facilitating a collaborative Bonfire workshop with #municipiozero and scift.
Together, we'll install a Bonfire instance and collectively configure extensions, community guidelines, and settings tailored to their specific needs 💅
municipiozero.it/events/bonf...Stay tuned for more announcements 🔥
Bonfire Setup - evento di configurazione collettiva - Municipio zero
9 Maggio 2025 @ 18:30 - 20:30 - Bonfire Setup: evento di configurazione collettiva Ti sei mai chiesto chi decide, come funzionano i social network che usiamo ogni giorno? Chi stabilisce le regole, cosa è permesso e cosa no, chi può entrare e chi vien…municipi sociali di bologna
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Il Fediverso a #scuola: uno strumento didattico per la cittadinanza digitale
Il #Fediverso offre strumenti di web sociale interoperabili per supportare attività didattiche, simulazioni, educazione civica e competenze tecnologiche, promuovendo consapevolezza digitale e responsabilizzazione degli studenti in un ambiente di apprendimento aperto
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La didattica nel Fediverso: risorse per una scuola consapevole
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@Ufficio Zero Linux OS per la EDU allora ricordatevi di aggiungere anche un link a Poliversity, che oggi è l'unica istanza italiana dedicata all'istruzione e alla ricerca accademica
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@Ufficio Zero Linux OS non è questione di essere "fedeli", ma di includere nella distro dedicata al settore dell'istruzione, l'unica istanza italiana che si rivolge a quel settore. È un servizio all'utente, non un favore a @Poliversity - Università ricerca e giornalismo
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e per il Merge attendiamo conferma per le pronotazioni dei talk di Ufficio Zero EDU e @BoostMediaAPS per il giorno 21 Giugno, visto che verremmo in auto e saremo presenti solo quel giorno 😉
Ufficio Zero Linux OS e Devol insieme
per promuovere i servizi del Fediverso portati avanti da attivisti italianiwww.ufficiozero.org
https://merge-it.net
In Italia esistono tante realtà che si occupano di libertà digitali, sotto molti aspetti ed in molti modi: associazioni, gruppi informali, aziende, professionisti e pubbliche amministrazioni.merge-it.net
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L'interoperabilità di APPLICAZIONI Open Source non basta a liberarsi dal dominio delle piattaforme Big Tech
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Independent ATProto infrastructure has been rapidly expanding recently, experiments with games on ATProto, and Graze offers developer grants.
Bluesky Report – #115Independent ATProto infrastructure has been rapidly expanding recently, experiments with games on ATProto, and Graze offers developer grants.
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Independent Infrastructure news
Over the last week, the effort towards decentralisation and running independent pieces of ATProto infrastructure has sped up significantly. There are now multiple relays that are publicly accessible. Other people also have made alternate AppViews that are Bluesky-compatible. Combined, this makes it now possible to fully use Bluesky without using any infrastructure owned by Bluesky PBC, and the first people have done so. To do so means using a separate PDS, relay, AppView and client.Some of the updates regarding relays:
- Blacksky has built their own relay, using their own custom implementation. This relay is publicly accessible, meaning that other people can use this relay instead of the relay that Bluesky PBC uses.
- A writeup on how to set up your own relay by Bluesky engineer Bryan Newbold, for some 34 USD/month.
- Making relays cheaper has been due to the Sync 1.1 update, Bluesky PBC goes into more detail in a blog post what this entails.
And the updates regarding clients and AppViews:
- Two clients now support the ability for users to set their own AppView, Deer and TOKIMEKI.
- AppViewLite is another AppView for Bluesky that has been around for a while, that focuses on being cheap to run. It also heavily optimises for network data storage, with creator Alnkq running AppViewLite that contains full network data on a cheap 10 year old machine. So far, AppViewLite only worked with a custom frontend. An update this week now make it possible to use AppViewLite in combination with other clients.
Some further thoughts:
- The way ATProto works, is that it takes the software that runs a social network and splits it up into separate components, with each of those components being able to be run independently. This has made self-hosting any component possible since the beginning of the network opening up. But to tak advantage of this, and get to a state of full independence, it means running multiple pieces of software. This has created a bit of a catch-22 in the ecosystem: you could run your own relay, but without another independent AppView to take advantage of this, it is not super useful. You could run your own (focused on the Bluesky lexicon) AppView, but without a client that allows you to set your own AppView it is not particularly useful either. What happened now in the last weeks is that all these individual pieces are starting to come together. With Deer allowing you to set your own custom AppView, there is now a use to actually run your own AppView. Which in turn also gives more purpose to running your own relay.
- For building features in a Bluesky client that Bluesky itself does not have, a different AppView is needed. Now that these are starting to become available, there is new space to experiment with clients that have features that Bluesky does not have. Deer has already started going in this direction by allowing people to set any account as a trusted verifier, for example.
- There has been skepticism around Bluesky PBC’s claims regarding decentralisation, especially from people within the ActivityPub community. Part of this distrust has come from people applying a mental framework of how ActivityPub works to how ATProto works. In this framework, Bluesky being decentralised would mean that there are other software platforms that are interoperable with the Bluesky lexicon. I’ll be writing more about those different mental frameworks, and how that relates to decentralisation later. But for now these developments strengthen the claims of Bluesky PBC around decentralisation and building a network that is ‘billionaire-proof’.
In Other News
at://2048 is the game of 2048, integrated with ATProto. 2048 is a sliding tile puzzle game where players combine numbered tiles to reach the 2048 tile, that has gotten popularity years ago and has been reimplemented a number of times. What makes the at://2048 version stand out is that the scores of the game are stored on your ATProto PDS. This creates new features and challenges: it gives the game a more social element, with features like leaderboards. It also creates a new challenge, of how to verify that a score on someone’s PDS is actually legit. at://2048 is experimenting with verified badges to authenticate if a score is legit. Integrating games with ATProto is one of the areas that is under-explored, and this reimplementation of 2048 is worth watching to get a sense of how the integration of games with ATProto will further develop.Bluesky differs from other social networks in one significant way, namely that users blocking each other is public information. This creates new dynamics, from people being able to see who have blocked them, to leaderboards of the most blocked accounts on the network. A new paper, ‘Self-moderation in the decentralized era: decoding blocking behavior on Bluesky‘, takes advantages of data on blocks being public to study user behaviour. Some of their findings: “users who receive a high number of blocks exhibit distinctive behavioral traits that set them apart from the general user population. These patterns are not necessarily linked to toxicity or misinformation, indicating that block-worthy behavior is more nuanced and complex than traditional moderation markers might suggest. Second, these distinctive traits can be effectively encoded and leveraged by machine learning models, suggesting the feasibility of early-warning or flagging systems able to assist moderation teams by surfacing potentially problematic users even before issues escalate.”
Custom feed builder Graze is giving out 5 grants of 1k USD for other projects in the ATProto ecosystem. Explaining why the startup is giving out grants, Graze says: “First, we want to help accelerate growth in the ATProto / Bluesky ecosystem. Projects that help *others* are vital. Second, we want to empower communities to sustain themselves. Third, we want to help give people & orgs direct access to their audiences. Broadly, those are *our* goals as an org.”
Bluesky in the media
- Time Magazine talks with Bluesky CEO Jay Graber and COO Rose Wang after they both got recognised as rising leaders in the Asian Pacific Community by Gold House. On monetisation, Graber says “she’s considering subscription models or monetizing Bluesky’s marketplaces of custom tools, but no concrete plans have been set in motion.”
- Wired published an article on how digital archivists are racing to save Black History while the Trump administration is trying to erase it. Wired talks with Blacksky’s Rudy Fraser, who describes “Blacksky as a living archive. Currently its database holds 17 million posts from Black users over the last two years”.
- How the San Francisco Standard uses Graze to hone their social media strategy – Graze
ATProto tech news
- The two developers behind Git collaboration platform Tangled, the brothers Anirudh and Akshay Oppiliappan, gave an interview on the devtools.fm podcast about Tangled. The platform also got various feature updates this week, and customisable profiles.
- Graze has made their ATProto authentication tool open-source and available for everyone to use. The ‘ATmosphere Authentication, Identity, and Permission Proxy‘ allows developers to easily add ATProto authentication to their software as a separate micro-service.
- WhiteBreeze is a self-hostable frontend for WhiteWind, allowing people to build their own blog on ATProto.
- ATProto Migrator is a tool to migrate your ATProto account to a different PDS. It does so via a web application, without people having to touch the Command Line Interface (CLI). This makes account migration more accessible, as other tools until now (such as goat by Bluesky engineer Bryan Newbold) require people to use the CLI.
- Flashes is a Bluesky client focused on images, and they are experimenting with some new ways to deal with the limitations that come from using Bluesky’s data. A Bluesky post can contain a maximum of 4 images and 300 characters. Flashes has upgraded that limit to 900 characters and 12 images. It works by actually creating 3 separate Bluesky posts in a thread, and displaying this as a single post in the Flashes app.
- A guide on Publishing ATProto Lexicons.
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Why Bluesky Is Letting Users Write Their Own Social Media Rules
CEO Jay Graber and COO Rose Wang are challenging tech's status quo.Andrew R. Chow (Time)
Gancio de Roma, Agenda condivisa della Roma ribelle e autogestita, è un luogo virtuale autonomo dove inserire e ritrovare eventi e appuntamenti militanti di Roma e territori limitrofi.
E' basata sul software Open Source Gancio e non si appoggia o dipende da nessuna piattaforma proprietaria.
Come spesso accade, l'infrastruttura e il software sono degli aspetti complessi ma risolvibili grazie alla comunità (o classe) hacker internazionalista che si e' creata attorno a questo progetto e altri simili.
Ora è giunto il momento di immaginare il funzionamento collettivo di uno strumento che per sua natura ha un pannello Admin, ovvero un approccio top-down. In altre parole, come rendere fluido, chiaro e autotutelato un meccanismo corale che permetta di comunicare alla città e ai territori limitrofi appuntamenti ed incontri che facciamo per esistere e resistere, riconoscerci e immaginare nuovi orizzonti.
Quindi ci porremo alcune domande:
-quali sono gli eventi che sono su Gancio de Roma?
-chi decide quali eventi sono accettati?
-come questo meccanismo si autosostiene? La continua cura e le (poche) spese vive
-come allargare l'uso dello strumento?
Per partecipare all'assemblea non e' necessario avere esperienza informatica.
Giovedì 8 maggio 2024 h19 @ LOA Acrobax, Via della Vasca Navale 6, metro B Basilica San Paolo
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PeerTube has a new update for their mobile app, the Mastodon team is growing, and more. The News The Links That’s all for this week, thanks for reading! You can subscribe to my newsletter to get all my weekly updates via email, which gets you some interesting extra analysis as a bonus, that is not […]
Fediverse Report – #115PeerTube has a new update for their mobile app, the Mastodon team is growing, and more.
The News
- PeerTube has officially launched their apps as a v1, some four months after the apps became available in beta. Some new features include the ability to log in with an existing PeerTube account (up until now you’d log in with a local account that only existed in the app itself), commenting from the app, and playlist and channel management options.
- Mastodon announced some updates on how their team is evolving. The organisation is currently in the process of setting up a Foundation in Europe. Mastodon is also growing their team, and the organisation now consists of 15 employees. Mastodon’s news update is a followup on their announcement from January 2025, in which Mastodon said that current CEO Eugen Rochko would step down. A new CEO has not been announced yet by Mastodon. In the previous update, Mastodon also said that they would need a €5 million annual operating budget. There are some new team members related to fundraising, but Mastodon has not made a clear statement yet on how exactly they will raise the money needed for this budget.
- Evan Prodromou of the Social Web Foundation has published a first version of places.pub. It is a service that “makes OpenStreetMap geographical data available as ActivityPub objects.” The goal is for other fediverse software to integrate with places.pub to have a standardised way to refer to geospatial objects via ActivityPub.
- A follow-up on last week’s news regarding the Fosstodon server: the server administration will be taken over, with an update and introduction by the new admin here.
The Links
- A recommendation algorithm for PeerTube videos. It is a browser extension that records your PeerTube viewing history, and uses that to generate recommendations to watch.
- PieFed development updates for April.
- The fediverse statistics site FediDB is getting an update, and can now be self-hosted as well.
- Talking Protocols With Evan Prodromou – FediHost Podcast.
- How To Make Your Mastodon Feed More Algorithmic – FediHost Tutorial.
- Ghost now gives blog authors the ability to block users.
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@ilarioq se ho capito cosa intendi, credo che tu possa usare OBS senza problemi!
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Publish a video or a live | PeerTube documentation
Documentation of PeerTube, a free software to take back control of your videos!docs.joinpeertube.org
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@ilarioq Guarda che oramai Peertube è perfettamente strutturato per ricevere gli output standard; puoi fare una diretta anche da un server jitsi configurato per produrre uno streaming di dati in uscita
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@ilarioq se usi un servizio di videoconferenza configurato bene poi fare a meno di obs, Mentre se vuoi fare una diretta da solo, obs è la soluzione migliore.
E comunque Dovrebbe funzionare anche con streamyard che sarà pure software proprietario, ma funziona decisamente bene 😅
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Next stop: Brussels! 🌍
The Complex Anarchism Symposium will gather scientists, artists, activists & dreamers for a 5-day deep dive on organizing without hierarchy and embracing complexity.
A Bonfire instance will serve as digital commons — a self-organized space for discussion, coordination, proposals & reflection.
Excited for this collective experiment and to see what emerges. 🌱
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Complex Anarchism Symposium, 19-23 May 2025 in Brussels
With the upcoming Complex Anarchism symposium, we will be exploring the intersection between anarchism and complexity science. Anarchy, despite its popular definition as a state of disorder, is ratherclea.research.vub.be
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Mastodon CFO @mellifluousbox will be at the #GlobalSolutionsSummit in Berlin today as part of the panel "Beyond Profit: Public Interest Technologies for Democratic Digital Futures". You can also listen to his live interview with Radioeins from last week.
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Global Solutions Summit
Digitale Technologien, KI, Klimawandel, Welthandel, Alternativen zu Wachstumsstrategien, Dekarbonisierung. Der am kommenden Montag in Berlin startende Global Solutions Summit hat sich viel vorgenommen.www.radioeins.de
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What should the subset of the Fediverse that is Lemmy + Mbin + PieFed be called?
Context: I made a poll on PieFed about the new post flairs (so if you are one of the few hundred people who have a PieFed account, follow that link and answer there). Unfortunately Lemmy has neither polls nor post flairs, so this post is to open up the discussion to the wider Fediverse, or rather the subset of it that encompasses Lemmy + Mbin + PieFed, which is called... what exactly?
Is Threadiverse too traumatic & tainted by association with Meta's (all but entirely defunct) Threads? Is The Verse too cool/poetic/nerdy (but niche) to be understood? I highly advise against Lemmyverse bc mainstream normal people are far less tolerant of tankies than we who are here are willing to put up with. Simply listing the software available sometimes is the best option - like the Interstellar app supports all of Lemmy + Mbin + PieFed, but most support at best 1 or 2 of those - but usually is too long to say and does not roll off the tongue, plus will just keep growing as time goes on. Is Forumverse thus the least bad of the available options, or perhaps you have a better idea? 💡
Anyway, the start to a listing:
1) Threadiverse
2) Forumverse
3) (The) Verse
4) Lemmy + Mbin + PieFed
5) Something else?
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In the past we had gotten into the habit of calling the set of thread-based environments #threadverse, but the advent of the terrible Meta service has polluted this denomination.
Personally I would use the expression #topicverse
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Topicverse sounds kinda nice.
To be fair, people were using Threadiverse before Meta revealed that they were working on their Threads. And now they do not want to switch?
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Lemmy Federate also says this:
1: Threadiverse refers to Fediverse software that implements "FEP-1b12: group federation". For example, Lemmy, Mbin, Guppe, NodeBB and others...
Maybe try to get a piefed namedrop there?
Lemmy Federate
Lemmy Federate is a tool to federate new communities in the Lemmyverse.lemmy-federate.com
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I noticed PieFed.social on page 9, and the link is functional, even though next to it the status says "disabled".
That site doesn't seem very trustworthy. I wonder if it is measuring how "Lemmy-like" an instance is? Anyway I've never heard of that site before, but passing the note to @rimu@piefed.social anyway in case it helps:-).
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It's run by an instance admin. I wanna say lemy.lol?
even though next to it the status says "disabled".
I believe that just means piefed.social isn't participating in the service.
Edit: is that right, @iso@lemy.lol?
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Yes, it is just disabled. Lemmy Federate supports every threadiverse software and Piefed is one of them.
Currently Piefed communities can be followed by Lemmy instances but not the other way around.
In general, every fediverse software that support FEP-1b12 and can receive Lemmy-like PM’s can register to Lemmy Federate.
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Re: As the creator of Mbin I'm also calling it Threadiverse.
IIRC Lemmy and Mastodon PMs are different and incompatible. If you can receive PMs from Lemmy users then you should be able to receive auth codes. Currently @rikudou@lemmings.world is adding both Lemmy and Mastodon PMs here: github.com/ismailkarsli/lemmy-…
Also software other than Lemmy and Mbin needs to add ‘roleName: Administrator’ to their user webfinger requests. This is because ActivityPub doesn’t have a standard way to expose user roles.
I’m thinking of adding another ways of verifying like DNS based verification but still not sure. Any recommendations are welcome 😀
lemmy-federate/src/lib/activity-pub-client.ts at 8721587b07a3108ebdc7fb0b62a82c62f4e5f549 · ismailkarsli/lemmy-federate
Federate Lemmy/Mbin communities automatically between instances - ismailkarsli/lemmy-federateGitHub
Currently Piefed communities can be followed by Lemmy instances but not the other way around.
You mean using your tool, or overall?
Yeah something is screwy - PieFed.social is most definitely aware of lemy.lol (see this at piefed.social/instance/lemy.lo…), but the last post it has from your own account seems to be nine months ago, and the second link on that page I linked, to "Posts" yields an error.
Nor does this portion of the conversation appear in this version of the OP (see here, which should have all of these responses below it but they are lacking there).
So apologies, I guess it's not just the tool, rather the issue is wider than that: either your instance lemy.lol or PieFed.social (or both) are not communicating in the standard manner with one another. Fwiw, PieFed.social seems to have no trouble federating with (any? at least the vast majority?) of other Lemmy instances? But I will leave that to you and rimu to work out:-).
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This is the flagship instance of PieFed, an open source project for the fediverse. Also try https://feddit.online.piefed.social
Interesting. I didn't realize my instance wasn't federated with Piefed. I'll contact the Piefed admins about this.
However, this issue is probably not related to Lemmy Federate because Piefed.social doesn't even use it.
Lemmy Federate
Lemmy Federate is a tool to federate new communities in the Lemmyverse.lemmy-federate.com
Re: As the creator of Mbin I'm also calling it Threadiverse.
@melroy@kbin.melroy.org NodeBB here, agreed.
It really is the most succinct nickname to describe the type of software we are... and I feel that outweighs possible association with Threads.
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@melroy Unfortunately, as I explained elsewhere, the problem is that Meta has now "infected" the word thread.
For this reason I would propose #topicverse also because in fact, it is not so much the "thread" that characterizes the Lemmy/xBin/Piefed/BBCode environment, but the ability to immediately identify the "topics". In fact, Mastodon also has the thread, even if it is unwatchable, but the topic display is only available in some software (and some apps like Raccoon for Friendica, which allow you to view the topics of activitypub groups also on Mastodon)
In the past we had gotten into the habit of calling the set of thread-based environments #threadverse, but the advent of the terrible Meta service has polluted this denomination.Personally I would use the expression #topicverse
Forumverse makes the most sense but it really doesn’t roll of the tounge.
Hence I prefer Lemmyverse or Threadiverse.
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Oh shit my vote made 100%, I didn’t know I was the first to vote.
The Verse it is then 😁
Le Verse in my corner of the world.
Edit 2: and oops, apparently editing a poll to say this erases all of the votes. Welp, we are learning!😛 Sorry about that!
That too. Short for narcotics officer. But can also generally mean to snitch now in slang.
Edit: usage example: to narc on someone
"don't narc on me bro"
"don't let Jeremy find out, he's such a narc"
That is halfway a joke.
We also still have Fediverse, to encompass everything that implements the ActivityPub protocol, e.g. Friendica, Mastodon, Pixelfed, Loops (planned but not implemented yet iirc?). So the Threadiverse/Forumverse/Whatever is meant to distinguish from that.
But Bulletinfedi is distinct enough I think?
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They both have features that Lemmy lacks.
Like PieFed has polls, post flairs, hashtags, categories of communities (basically multi-reddits), which are user customizable and shareable, and a lot more. Though lacking quite a bit of polish such as post and comment previews, and very little to almost no official app support (though an API was recently released and Thunder is being tested, and Interstellar already supports it). It's newer than Lemmy, but written in Python rather than the difficult Rust language, so in many ways has already surpassed Lemmy in terms of features (and even Reddit in some ways too, especially since the only new features there for the last decade were solely aimed at increasing profits rather than good experiences for the users).
Mbin's primary distinction is also supporting federation not only with Lemmy (and PieFed) but also Mastodon. And it has a different interface that some people prefer to Lemmy's. If you want both the Threadiverse/Forumverse/Whatever and Mastodon integration with a single account, this is the only option atm.
Both PieFed and Mbin are entirely separate implementations of the ActivityPub protocol, so whether you actually use them or not it is worth celebrating that Lemmy is now not the only one that implements this forum/thread/basically Reddit replacement style (other notable implementations include Friendica a Facebook replacement, and Mastodon an X/Twitter one, Pixelfed I think an Instagram one, etc.). Especially with Lemmy's association with "tankies" that tends to drive many people away (e.g. 100% of the people that I've ever told about Lemmy irl; and Reddit's r/RedditAlternatives is filled with stories of people who don't want to come here bc of all the BoTh SiDeS sAmE rhetoric that we allow here, plus Lemmy is somehow more authoritian than Reddit even, having a modlog but no modmail, no notification of a moderation event, no ability to discuss bc it simply says that a "mod" did it, and you don't have a right to even so much as be told that your content is now removed! instance admins have much more freedom here, it's fantastic, but actual users only have what manages to trickle down from them, and the software itself very much reflects an authoritarian mindset, even in comparison to Reddit).
Btw, fuck spez.
TLDR: Lemmy isn't the only game in town, yet we need a name that is both distinct from other Fediverse tools (Mastodon, Friendica, Pixelfed, Loops, etc.) while also being inclusive to the other Reddit replacement tools, currently Mbin and PieFed, but in the future including Sublinks, and who knows what else?
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I've been using threadiverse, but I prefer forumverse
It's immediately clear what it's referring to, and it leaves it open to other compatible platforms once they implement activity pub nicely. Being able to subscribe and post to official support forums from the forumverse would be a cool promo point
Also people refer to many things as "threads". Conversations, comment sections, discord has threads. Forum is much more clear
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I used to prefer "Forumverse" as well. But people don't seem to want to use it?
While "Threadiverse" seems to predate Meta's Threads here on Lemmy, see e.g. szmer.info/post/349217 and this comment from Ada lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/9384… from 2+ years ago. Tbf I did find a reference to Forumverse from 2 years ago as well, but then virtually nobody uses it again until essentially db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com rediscovers it a handful of months ago.
So "Threadiverse" has some history behind it, except then Meta ruined the association for many people. But... we here on Lemmy were using it first!!?
True, but doesn't Xhitter and Bluesky and Mastodon also have a type of voting? Even if it is called or functions slightly differently?
I did not explain much of the back story, but the Fediverse is already the term used to describe federated social media, so the term here that we need is to pick one that describes the specific subset of it that focuses on threaded conversions, centered around those topic areas (called posts, and then those topics being further aggregated into higher-level topics, called communities) rather than centered around a user tweeting/X-creting/whatever their shit.
And we also have a focus on much longer-form content than those others, which like Mastodon have smaller character limits imposed upon their thoughts (so that they cannot ramble on as I have done here:-).
I don't think likes serve the same function as votes. The downvote, the ranking as a function of score and recency, and the surfacing and consensus-building that comes as a result are the main point of this sort of platform.
By contrast, the microblog "like" (at least on a platform without an algorithm, like Mastodon) doesn't do anything other than express appreciation.
Threads are common in pretty much every form of social media now, from friend-aggregation sites like Facebook and Friendica to messaging services like Discord and Revolt. They're hardly exclusive to a Reddit/Lemmy-type service. Mastodon even organizes posts into threads (though I think that it does so in a much more clumsy way).
(Edit: by "don't they have votes?" do you mean polls? Because that's a completely different function altogether than the Lemmy/Reddit vote.)
No I did mean up & downvotes, and you added a good perspective. I don't use Mastodon and my main experience there was Kbin, now Mbin, which has both Boosts and actual upvotes (and reduces, which aren't shown, and downvotes).
I think you are correct: the voting was always the core behind why people liked Reddit, as compared to others at the time.
Although it seems like people are more adamant about remaining with Threadiverse, for the sake of history.
But if a new term was to be used, it would be good for it to reflect voting. Like Forumverse does, perhaps?
Yeah, I think "forumverse" isn't bad. Though I have always felt like a Reddit-like interface and a forum interface are fundamentally different, in some way I can't really put my finger on. I've been involved in bulletin board forums (fora?) in one aspect or another since the late 90s, so maybe it's just nostalgia vs. recency bias; though it could also be the feeling that a "forum" seems like it should be hyper-specific, with different subforums on an already-niche bulletin board scoping down to even more niche and specific areas.
(Side note: Actually, now that I think about it, maybe the forum -> topic -> thread connection is why people like the name "threadiverse." The word "thread" definitely seems like it arose from there.)
Anyway, I am fully ready to admit that I'm yelling at clouds here. Get off my lawn, dang kids and all that.
I mean, yeah it'll be better to have a term in which Reddit plays no part in defining is!
And this post is an opportunity to make exactly such a term!
Say "fuck spez" in the absolute best way possible - by moving on and forget that he ever existed, as we build our own stuff here.😁
Forumverse, I guess.
(Though I'm always in favor of silly word combos, there aren't many good ones. I like Piebin, but how do you get lemmy in there? Plebin? No thanks.)
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like what features are you wanting?
Lemmy already has the "New Comments" sort, which is the biggest feature of forums vs Reddit
Lemmy also has the "Chat" view for comments, which is good but needs to show context with them as my feature request here says github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/i…
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Yeah, what features? Polls? Community flairs? The ability to restrict downvotes to only members of a community? The ability to combine multiple communities into one overarching category? And then customize that without needing admin support, and then also share that with other users? The ability to personally block every user from an instance, again without requiring admin approval? The ability to automatically label every user that has a brand new account, less than two weeks old? Or that posts 10x more often than they comment, hence might be an unregistered bot account? Or that gives and receives 10x more downvotes than upvotes, so is at best a controversial and at worst a highly toxic personality - but again, independent of an admin or moderator, and instead being totally in control of the user? Or the ability to block posts based on keywords, but perhaps not all such posts, and instead having granularity of All vs. None vs. Some? Or offering hashtags for content discoverability beyond communities and categories of communities? Or the ability to follow anything you want - a community, a user, a post, a comment (even not made by you) - and arguably far more importantly, the ability to NOT receive notifications for something that you wrote?
PieFed has all of that, and more. Lemmy has none of it. Do as you please, but now you know. Check it out: piefed.social/ .
Edit: even Reddit lacks many of these features. As it enshittified, it kept adding features that attempted to boost its profitability, like various forms of irl coinage, rather than provide stuff that people actually wanted to see.
i think threadiverse is the move. partly because it's already in regular use and partky because it's very self-explanatory. forumverse could have some legs to it now that more traditional forum software like nodebb and soon flarum support federation now, maybe it could refer to the broader category containing traditional forums and the threadiverse, but i feel like leaving out the "fedi" part kinda defeats the point (threadiverse at least partially maintains it by being a pun on it). maybe fediforums is the way to go?
it's a whole 'nother can of worms but ironically in my experience the "verse" part of threadiverse is more offputting than the "thread" part because people think "metaverse," but that's just anecdotal and the term fediverse itself already has too much momentum to easily fall out of fashion
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Yeah and I did not clarify well here that nobody will stop using Fediverse (I think?!): that is a fine term that should continue to exist. But we also need a term for the subset of that which the likes of Lemmy, Mbin, PieFed, and now as you say nodebb and soon flarum (and perhaps eventually Sublinks?) and ofc many others will also join. What is this subset of the Fediverse to be called?
Ngl, I kinda just instantly fell in love with fediforums as you mentioned it right here. However, it also seems fairly similar to Fediverse, perhaps too much so?
Forumverse seems more distinct, from the Fediverse? As too does Threadiverse. And the latter has history and traction, but also seems a bit tainted by association with Meta, who seems to destroy everything that it touches? 😛 Though importantly, we here on Lemmy were using it first! So is that enough justification to reclaim the term, in people's minds? What do you in particular think?
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Personally I dislike anything with -verse involved because big companies have run it into the ground and then some.
The boring, dry ways of describing them work best in my opinion.
Federated forums is the driest, most technical and to the point but not very telling.
Swap out forum for link aggregator and you have similar, arguably even more technical (certainly more of a mouthful).
Connected/linked forums might be more approachable, more readily conveying how these are separate forums but networked together.
Cross-forums may work as well to the same end, but not sure how immediately understandable cross may be in this context and outside of gaming spaces.
Whatever the case I kind of think this has things backwards. What's more important than describing and talking about the backend tech is pointing people to any of the sites built with them that have anything of interest to them to bother with. I can't think of anything online I've ever gone to or used because someone told me it was using Apache, Nginx, phpBB, or like an Open Source Web Server or using such and such CDN.
The reason why is simple: next to nobody talks like that. The only people that might are deep in web dev.
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On the other hand, the software used has an ENORMOUS effect upon the quality and such of the communication. e.g. forum software such as Lemmy allow much longer-form, topic-based discussions than e.g. Mastodon where you have to follow a particular user account or else you won't see anything at all. So "Mastodon" implies extreme difficulty in having conversations in the first place, especially for non-technical, normie users, and also a heavily short-form tweets/X-cretes/skeets/whatever, user-centric form of communication. Whereas Lemmy allows me to ramble on for quite awhile, and even if you don't follow my account, by being interested in this topic, you'll see my words.
So software isn't everything, but it also is not nothing either.
Anyway, we could call ourselves anything we like. Brain-dead fart pirates, I don't care, so long as we pick a name:-). It might help to pick one that people like though, especially the people that contribute much to making this place what it is.
I personally don't mind -verse. I don't watch most Marvel movies to begin with, and the word itself carries connotations of "the universe", which is what we want I think bc we are talking about like "the set of all, i.e. the universe of, connected (using ActivityPub protocol) forum-like software platforms". Hence Fediverse at the high end, i.e. including such platforms as Mastodon and Friendica and Pixelfed, but at the lower end... what there? Threads? ActivityPub Forums? Any short, catchy moniker may work -> so what is it then?
Lembipie. What else?
(And why does this particular subset need a name, anyway? The plus combo is easier to get the point across with)
It was Lemmy+Mbin.
Now it's already up to Lemmy+Mbin+PieFed+nodebb.
And flarum and Sublinks may be added at some point as well.
So the plus syntax, now that there's already 4-6 of them (7 if you count Kbin but there's only a single instance in the entire world, in Poland I believe, that uses it these days, everyone else switched to Mbin), seems untenable?
That works for Lemmy + K/Mbin.
But now with +PieFed, +nodebb, and soon +flarum, and perhaps +Sublinks, Lemmyville doesn't seem very inclusive?
I already started this as a poll about post flairs, neither of which features is nor is expected to appear on Lemmy very soon iirc. The rest of the Fediverse isn't waiting around for coders to learn Rust and eventually getting around to adding features to Lemmyville.
So Lemmy in particular may want to not start being exclusive! It will get left behind if it does!
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I think one of the major tropes present in the show was to demonstrate how there aren't simply white hats vs. black hats (to use cowboy terms). Mal is a criminal, "forced" into living that way bc the government won't "allow" him to live legitimately (except... really? Why won't they again?). Therefore, the presence of great darkness within his lightness, or as you might prefer the presence of occasional boughts of lightness within his darkness, is not a "bug", it's a "feature" of the show, to walk out that yin and yang in a fantasy space opera setting.
Nobody is perfect. Some are far less so than others. Those at least tend to be aware of their imperfections, as opposed to e.g. The Galactic Empire muwhahaha, ahem cough, anyways they seem so stolid, so absolutely certain of their moral righteousness, that unlike the criminal Mal who often isn't such a bad guy once you get to know him, commits atrocities the likes of which would turn people's stomachs, if they knew (hence those are kept as closely guarded secrets).
So I think you missed that: from the perspective of the show, that was no accident - that was literally the entire point of what they were attempting to convey. Mal was not a "good guy". He just had light in his darkness, the same way that the empire has darkness in its light (or is it rather the other way around?).
Yay Jayne was fairly simplistic. The dude barely had any morality bc he was more animal than man. So in that way he played a "straight man" to Mal'a greater level of complexity? He even gave voice to what many of the others were thinking, including Mal himself, but they had the grace to not say it.
True evil requires a minimum amount of "character" in order to achieve anything at all - great or otherwise. So it's less like Jayne was "bad" and the government was "good", and more like Jayne was simplisticly animal-like, while the true evils rose up much higher. With great power comes great responsibility, or whatever.
Jayne is like a wall painting in the background - he's scenery?
As far as Whedon, I dunno, I like a lot of his works, I don't like his character. The two aren't entirely connected in my mind, though perhaps they should be more so, I just don't know.
On the other hand, wasn't all of this pretty much happening even while the show was still in production? You mentioned that it had "aged", so I wasn't coming at this from a perspective of bad show vs. good show, but from it having been a good show where something external caused its goodness to have tanked. If it had been bad at the start, then we wouldn't say that it "aged", just that the show sucked. Which it didn't... and yet, also... didn't it always though? That yin and yang seemed to me to have not been so much changed by the passage of time?
Edit: oh, I haven't heard of whatever has been revealed about the actor who plays Jayne. Maybe that's what you meant. It might change my own perspective of the show in that case. I would hope not actually... but it might.
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I've been calling it threadiverse because that is what I saw most other people call it.
Really all it is is "ActivityPub groups" or if that is too technical, "fediverse groups".
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Well, if you look at the sidebar of !fediverse@piefed.social i included NodeBB. 😅
Forumverse : for any news and features about Lemmy, Mbin, NodeBB, PieFed
So it can't be Lemmy,Mbin,PieFed. And i'm adding flarum.
However, we can create separate category :
- aggregator link : lemmy,mbin,piefed
- forum : nodebb, flarum
1) Thank to Meta, i don't like it...
2) My favorite one, it remind me of forum era
3) Abstract and beautiful. Poetry, bible and verb. Something we have never see before 😊.
4) i'm against. Link aggregator shouldn't be tied by a software name but a global concept as thread of forum. If i have 6 softwares...do you write them all ?
5) linkagg lousy but pratical. Bad name are the best. 😎
I think we should redo the post, but, for now, let's see where it go 😊
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This community now support Flair
Good morning and good evening !PieFed now support Flair :D
See this post for more information : piefed.social/post/716372If you have a PieFed account, you can create a post and add its flair.
So i created few one :
- Announcement : only moderators. Update about this community. Please, don't use it. 😔
- Blog : for any news and features about writefreely, wordpress
- Forumverse : for any news and features about Lemmy, Mbin, NodeBB, PieFed
- Media : for any news and features about Peertube, Pixelfed, Loops...
- Microblog : for any news and features about Mastodon, Iceshrimp, Misskey
- Discussion : For talking about...the fediverse
- Event : for event in the fediverse as !lemmyvision@[url=https://jlai.lu/]jlai.lu[/url] or !canvas@toast.ooo
- Question : If you need help
- Tutorial : for wiki and tuto
So far, mainly from this post bc the poll has such a small sample size, the term that seems vastly preferred is Threadiverse. Bc of its history, and how people have already been calling it that. Sort this post by Hot to see what I mean.
I don't think Forumverse is "bad", plus as you say it better represents the new additions of nodebb and flarum. Although that term would be swimming against the tide of people that have been using Threadiverse all this time and seem to not want to switch (possibly bc I did not explain the situation well, especially the clarification about the term Fediverse already existing, and now how the situation is a bit different wrt nodebb and flarum).
Ofc this is all just on a Sunday -> there is still lots of room for things to happen in the next coming days, to see how these results may shift:-).
When the first Reddit migration happened, the migrants called it #Threadiverse and has always been that way. Although some tried to change it (Threads was not around yet, or public, IIRC), it didn't work, the migrants prefer Threadiverse so it stuck.
Changing names in the Fediverse is not easy since it has grown humongous already. Back in 2008 it was simply called #Identiverse. Then a few years later it morphed into the #Fediverse (this was before ActivityPub, yes, the Fediverse is years older than ActivityPub).
Back in 2021/2022, we tried to change the name "Fediverse" because Twitter migrants and the Press/Media were whining too much about it. Even though we reached a consensus, the we were far too small compared to the number of new people.
The people who kept on complaining about the name "Fediverse", when they were asked to participate in the disucssion and polls, they did not. When they were presented with the new name, they either ignored us or started whining again. 🤷🏽
Anyway, if there's a huge population involved, it's not going to be easy.
Now, I'm not discouraging you, rather, I shared our experience in the hopes that you'll find a better way. Because personally, I'm not so fond of "Threadiverse", haha.
If you use, for example, the lemmyBB interface, it's no longer "threadi", it's a forum. 😝 (I know, lame reason.)
Oh! One thing that came out of trying to rename the Fediverse, people don't want "-verse" anywhere because it's overused. Multiverse. Metaverse. Fediverse. Threadiverse. Benverse. Omniverse. Panverse. Whoverse. Trekverse.
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Hmm… I like the -ville suggestion. #Threadiville perhaps?
- The #Fediverse is the "universe".
- The -ville is the "local group".
- The various software are the "galaxies".
- The instances are the "planets".
So:
- Fediverse
- Threadiville local group
- Mbin galaxy
- Fedia IO planet
- Kbin galaxy
- Kbin social planet
- Nodebb galaxy
- Lemmy galaxy
- Lemmy World planet
- Microville local group
- Mastoforks galaxy
- Pleroma galaxy
- Writingville local group
- Plume galaxy
- WriteFreely galaxy
- Ghost galaxy
- Faceville local group
- Friendica galaxy
- -key forks galaxy
- CMSville local group
- Hubzilla galaxy
- Drupal galaxy
- Wordpress galaxy
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Tagging @Snoopy@piefed.social.
This is a great summary of the history of the topic, thank you!😀
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It started as a suggestion, then we compiled it and made phases of polls. (The instance clised shop, unfortunately.)
Based on those, the most that got the votes was the suggestion "Mycelium". It was inspired by Star Trek: Discovery and the real-world mycelium.
The second one, I can't remember but it was also related to nature's fungi or plants.
The list of suggestions and votes were based on who participated. And at the time it was done, it was the Twitter Migration, and people were complaining loudly about the name "Fediverse". And yet, those who participated were mostly pre-Migration people (who generally didn't have a strong issue with "Fediverse"). 😄
The word itself sounds nice, but is the least inclusive.
That's like saying that all of these conversations that we all have are on Lemmy.World? Sure, it's between 50 and 80% true (users and the most active communities, respectively, including this one we are in now), but it misses a ton of nuance and detail there.
PieFed, Mbin, and now nodebb, with others on the way (flarum, perhaps Sublinks) also exist.
So why call this all "Lemmy", when that's only a part - granted, by far the majority portion - of the whole?
Fedi, check this new #FediDB stats page.
I'm nearly finished the redesign, and will be launching fedidb.com once the final pieces are ready.
Boosts greatly appreciated, the new FediDB is a gem in this complex network 💎
(Source: github.com/fedidb/fedidb-nuxt/)
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Could you please make graphs' y-axis have a zero origin so that changes over time can be viewed relative to the absolute?
Thank you for all your hard work!


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