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botsin.space chuide


Come al solito, le spese crescono, la voglia passa.

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5 modi per combattere la disinformazione elettorale su Bluesky e Fediverse


  • PENSA prima di impegnarti o condividere
  • CONDIVIDI informazioni accurate sulle elezioni
  • SEGNALA la disinformazione quando la vedi
  • ISTRUISCI te stesso, i tuoi amici e la tua famiglia
  • COINVOLGITI – e coinvolgi i tuoi amici e familiari

I suprematisti bianchi, i fascisti e i loro alleati stanno già diffondendo disinformazione per cercare di rubare le elezioni presidenziali degli Stati Uniti. Il CEO suprematista bianco e pro-fascista di X è uno di loro. Il CEO fascista-friendly di Meta sta sospendendo gli account delle persone che si oppongono. Una coalizione per i diritti civili sta chiedendo a Musk e Zuckerberg di agire contro la disinformazione elettorale , e forse faranno qualche sforzo simbolico, ma io per primo non ci trattengo il fiato.

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Ci sono stati parecchi commenti sulle alternative ad #amazon, il tema è sentito ma lo si usa comunque per vari motivi, quindi se il fattore etico non fa molta presa ecco la lista su come spendere meno non usando amazon:

LIBRI libraccio.it e bookdealer.it bookrepublic.it

ELETTRONICA refurbed.it backmarket.it

TUTTO IL RESTO USATO subito.it vinted.it wallapop

TUTTO IL RESTO NUOVO trovaprezzi.it idealo.it aliexpress

ne avete altri?

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@:fedora: filippodb :cc: :gnu:
Idealo.it, comparatore prezzo con filtri raffinati (almeno per i prodotti più importanti).
idealo.it/


@Fedi.Tips I wanted to tell you about a new app that was released in beta for Friendica, but it already works very well. The peculiarity of this app is that it can also be used for Mastodon in particular it is the only app that I know of that allows full use of the features of the Mastodon glitch-soc fork, the fork that allows you to write formatted posts with hypertext references.

Another peculiarity of this app is that it allows you to view Activitypub groups in the best way I have ever seen among all the apps in the Fediverse.

If you want to try it, let me know what your impressions are.

The developer who created it is @Dieguito 🦝🧑🏻‍💻🍕

Here is a post in which I describe the most important peculiarities

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Oh yes! #RaccoonForFriendica is the most complete app ever seen for Friendica and, in addition to working with Mastodon, it might be the only app in the world capable of managing the potential of Mastodon Glitch-soc

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Mastodon, due anni dopo. Un bilancio a due anni di distanza dalla prima grande esplosione mediatica


Proprio come nel 2017, molte persone che si sono riversate su Mastodon dopo l'acquisizione di Twitter da parte di Apartheid Clyde nell'ottobre 2022 hanno avuto grandi esperienze su Mastodon... ma la maggior parte no. Alcuni (soprattutto le persone di colore) hanno avuto esperienze davvero orribili. Nel giro di pochi mesi, l'ottimismo e l'eccitazione si sono trasformati in delusione e frustrazione.

Perché? Sfide di usabilità e onboarding, razzismo e sessismo e altri problemi culturali, mancanza di strumenti per proteggere se stessi...

Il post di @The Nexus of Privacy

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@Che succede nel Fediverso?

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Immergersi nel mondo di Lemmy. Dopo l'articolo Il mio blog ora ha commenti su Lemmy ecco il nuovo post di @kiko


«È tutto un po' diverso da Mastodon, ma è principalmente perché qui devi avere a che fare con un altro livello, le community»

«Ciò per cui trovo una soluzione davvero buona, però, è il modo in cui i commenti sono collegati tra loro, o meglio, come questo si riflette nella risposta. Wherever parent_id è utilizzato in altri oggetti, un commento ha un "percorso'' con un elenco separato da punti di tutti gli ID dei commenti fino al commento corrente, a partire da 0.»

@Che succede nel Fediverso?

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Nell’acquario del fediverso. Il Fediverso come ecosistema e modello sociale

«Non è solo una delle famose bolle dei social, ma un sistema di acquari interconnessi, ognuno con popolazioni, temperature, salinità e pH diversi, e rappresenta un modello di socializzazione e di governo globale in cui gli amministratori hanno strutturato regole di convivenza che realizzano il bando degli intolleranti teorizzato da Karl Popper»

Di @macfranc su #IlPost

@fediverso

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@Suoko beh... mo' che l'hai visto, hai capito che non te stavi a perde' gnente de che! 😄
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@MaurizioPaglia mi fa piacere! Grazie a te per il riscontro

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The Fediverse Schema Observatory helps to improve interoperability, the botsin.space server will shut down, and more.


Last Week in Fediverse – ep 90

The Fediverse Schema Observatory helps to improve interoperability, the botsin.space server will shut down, and more.

The News


The Fediverse Schema Observatory is a new project by Darius Kazemi, who runs the Hometown fork of Mastodon as well as co-wrote to Fediverse Governance paper this year with Erin Kissane. The Observatory collects data structures from the fediverse; it looks how different fediverse softwares use and implement ActivityPub. It explicitly does not gather any personal data or posts; instead it looks at how the data is formatted in ActivityPub. ActivityPub and the fediverse has a long-standing problem in that the selling point is interoperability between different software, but every software has their own, slightly different implementation of ActivityPub, making good interoperability difficult to pull off. Kazemi has posted about the Observatory as a Request for Comments. The Observatory is explicitly not a scraper, but considering how sensitive the subject can be in the fediverse community, Kazemi has taken a careful approach of informing the community in detail beforehand about the proposed project, and how it deals with data. The easiest way to see and understand how the Observatory is works is with this demo video.

The botsin.space Mastodon server for bots will shut down in December. The botsin.space server is a server dedicated to running bots, with a few thousand active bots running. The server is a valued part of the community, with the wild variety of bots running on the server contributing to the Mastodon in both useful and silly ways. The admin states that over time running the servers has become too expensive over time, and that is was not feasible to keep the project going. The shutdown of botsin.space showcases an ongoing struggle in the fediverse, running a server is expensive and time-consuming, and every time a server shuts down the fediverse loses a block of its history.

Sub.club is a way to add monetization options to fediverse posts. Sub.club started with being able to add paywalls to Mastodon posts, recently expanded to long-form writing with support for Write.as, and now has added support for WordPress blogs as well. Sub.club has posted a tutorial on how to add the plugin to WordPress, making it an easy system to set up.

Bridgy Fed, the bridge between ActivityPub and ATproto has gotten some updates, with the main new feature is that you can now set custom domain handles on Bluesky for fediverse accounts that get bridged into Bluesky. This brings the interoperability between the networks closer to native accounts, and makes having a bridged account more attractive.

Upcoming fediverse platform for short-form video, Loops, got some press by The Verge and TechCrunch. Creator Daniel Supernault said that there are now 5k people on the waiting list, and that a TestFlight link will go out soon for the first 100 people. An Android APK will be made available at some point as well.

GoToSocial is working on the ability to for servers to subscribe to allowlists and denylists. This makes it easier to create clusters of servers with a shared allowlist, such as the Website League. As I recently wrote about Website League, it is a cluster of federating servers that uses ActivityPub but exists separately from the rest of the fediverse, and it is started by people who build a new shared space after Cohost shut down. Website League servers predominantly use GoToSocial or Akkoma, and have been actively working on tuning the software to meet their needs.

The Links


That’s all for this week, thanks for reading!

#fediverse

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Some big news for Bluesky this week, as they raise $15M in their series A. Another new option to import your old tweets into Bluesky, and more.


Last Week in the ATmosphere – Oct wk 5

Some big news for Bluesky this week, as they raise $15M in their series A. Another new option to import your old tweets into Bluesky, and more.

Bluesky announces series A


Bluesky has announced their series A funding round, raising $15M, using the announcement to give a first look at some of their monetisation plans as well. The series A funding round is lead by Venture Capital firm Blockchain Capital. In summer 2023 Bluesky had an $8M seed round, and various investors of the seed round also returned for the series A. Kinjal Shah, a Partner at Blockchain Capital, will join the board of Bluesky.

The seed round already had investors from the crypto world, but this drew much more attention with the series A, as the headline of Blockchain Capital as a lead investor made the connection loud and clear. Bluesky is aware of the negative connotations that many people have regarding blockchains and crypto, explicitly stating that “the Bluesky app and the AT Protocol do not use blockchains or cryptocurrency, and we will not hyperfinancialize the social experience (through tokens, crypto trading, NFTs, etc.).”

Bluesky also announced two avenues they will start to explore for monetisation; a subscription model and payment processing. For the subscription model Bluesky will explore various additional features that do not touch on the core experience, such as higher quality video uploads, or profile customisations. Bluesky will also start working on payment services to support creators. Not much information is known yet on this, and Bluesky says they will share more information as it becomes available.

Kinjal Shah wrote the investment thesis for Blockchain Capital, which gives good insight in the vision of what Blockchain Capital hopes to get out of the investment. She writes: “With this investment, we’re investing in more than a product but rather a vision of what social infrastructure could be. A future where users own their identity and data, developers can innovate freely, and networks are as diverse as we are.” The reason for Blockchain Capital to invest into a social infrastructure is the new opportunities that an open developer ecosystem brings for (other) developers to build new products, which is also stated here by Bluesky developer Why.

On Enshittification


A common response to the news of Bluesky’s series A being lead by a VC firm called Blockchain Capital is that “the enshittification has started”. This response was dominant on the fediverse, and less so but still present on Bluesky. It’s been such a common response that I think it deserves a closer look at ‘enshittification’ and how it relates to Bluesky taking money from a blockchain VC firm. The meaning of the term enshittification has shifted over time, and both meanings provide an interesting lens to look at the news.

When Cory Doctorow coined the term enshittification in 2022, he used it to describe a process of platform decay. A platforms subsidises growth by operating at a loss, and places themselves in between the suppliers and customers on a two-sided marketplace. Once suppliers and customers are locked in on the platform and cannot easily leave, the enshittification cycle happens: the platform uses their control of the marketplace to take an ever increasing part of the value while while making the experience on the platform worse, for both suppliers and consumers.

What is interesting here is that in earlier interviews, Jay Graber has mentioned the idea of building marketplaces on Bluesky as a way to make money. If enshittification is used to describe platform decay, it stands out that a marketplace is not present in the Series A announcement as a way for Bluesky to monetise. For a platform to become enshittified in this meaning of platform decay, a platform needs to have exclusive control of a marketplace on the platform. However, Bluesky is currently not taking the direction of a marketplace for monetisation, instead opting for subscriptions and payment processing. This is still open to change at a later point, as Graber has expressed interest in it before.

Doctorow also mentions two principles to combat platform enshittification. Platforms should be interoperable, allowing users can switch to a different provider. Users should also have the ability to control the content they see, and not be dependent on an opaque algorithm owned by the platform. As both of these principles are deeply embedded in the design of ATProto, Bluesky is an interesting case study if the principles that Doctorow mentioned are indeed good enough to stave off enshittification.

The meaning of the term enshittification has drifted and expanded over time. Enshittification is now commonly used to refer to any business practice that makes the company or product, well, shit. There is a fairly widespread negative attitude towards both venture capital as well as blockchains and crypto. People perceive that these systems have not brought benefits they promised, and enriched a small elite instead, all the while degrading the experience of using the internet. This is not a newsletter to deconstruct blockchains or VC (I’m sure you can find your own sources for that), but I do want to point out that public perception of both venture capital and blockchains matter here. Bluesky is in an active growth phase, and part of the sales pitch to get people to join the network is that Bluesky is a ‘better’ place, for various interpretations of ‘better’.

Getting people to join Bluesky while also being associated with technologies and organisations that many people perceive as ‘not better’ is much harder. People want to join a new network because they hope that the new network is a better experience for them. Judging from the outside if a network is a suitable place is hard, so people tend to fall back to simple heuristics to determine if a network is a good place for them. BlockChain Capital might provide valuable support to Bluesky, but this hard to see as an outsider that is considering joining Bluesky. Instead, it is more likely that they will fall back on their preexisting opinions about startups that take VC money or affiliated with blockchains.

The News


Porto is a new free tool that allows you to import your Twitter archive into Bluesky. The tool asks you to download your tweets from X as an archive, and upload the folder with your archive into the tool, via a browser extension.

Bridgy Fed, the bridge between ActivityPub and ATproto has gotten some updates, with the main new feature is that you can now set custom domain handles on Bluesky for fediverse accounts that get bridged into Bluesky. This brings the interoperability between the networks closer to native accounts, and makes having a bridged account more attractive. As such, you can now follow my fediverse account on Bluesky at @fediversereport.com.

Last week I wrote that the “new wave has a higher retention rate than other waves”. Another week later and this effect still holds.

ProtoScript is a tool that lets you publish Javascript code directly to your PDS, and then view and execute code from any user directly in your browser. Conceptually it is similar to ATFile, which lets you store arbitrary files on your PDS, but this time with Javascript code instead. Both ProtoScript and ATFile are exploring the idea that the PDS is a website, and it seems like there is still a lot of design space left to explore here.

The ATProto Tech Talks is back, with a new event November 7th. This event will feature various ways people build blogs on ATProto, including by Bluesky developers Samuel and Hailey. Smoke Signal event to register is available here.

Tracking how the space of labelers for self-identification is evolving:

  • The Games Industry Labeler now is now automated via DMs, where a chat interface walks a user through setting their labels.
  • The permissionless nature of ATProto allows people to backdate posts. This feature allows people to import their Twitter archive to the original date of posting, but can also create confusion. The Backdated Labeler labels posts that have a different timestamp than the time they first become visible on the network.


The Links


And some more links that cater towards developers:

That’s all for this week, thanks for reading! You can subscribe to my newsletter to receive the weekly updates directly in your inbox below, and follow this blog @fediversereport.com and my personal account @laurenshof.online.

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Fediverse Enhancement Proposal in Progress


An initial draft for the FEP A common approach to using the Event object typehas been published.

codeberg.org/linos/fep/src/bra…

The pull request is still marked as work-in-progress. Firstly, we would like to have a discussion about it with the community, which you are invited to join on SocialHub.

in reply to Event Federation

The latest additions to FEP-8a8e “A common approach to using the Event object type”


First of all I would like to thank all reviewers and contributors to the FEP (Fediverse Enhancement Proposal): @lesion, @mro, @naturzukunft, @laurin and more.

This article tries to outline some areas where the FEP is currently undergoing evolution:

Dates


Providing an [url=https://www.w3.org/TR/activitystreams-vocabulary/#dfn-endtime]endTime[/url] is now mandatory, but guidelines how to deal with events that do not have one set are also included. In addition, a new attribute has been proposed to mark an event as open-ended, so that no end date should be displayed to users, while at the same time being available to applications, e.g. for processing a list of current and future events.

It has not yet been decided whether to include a property to mark an event as all day, or to use a similar flag for the start time.

There are currently no plans to include proposals for recurring events, both based on schedules or not, in the proposal. As the topic seems to be too complex, it looks like it will be in a separate FEP.

Organizers


When writing ActivityPub integrations for several existing WordPress event plugins, it became apparent that handling organizers only via [url=https://www.w3.org/TR/activitystreams-vocabulary/#dfn-attributedto]attributedTo[/url] is not practical. This became even more apparent when it came to interoperability between different applications. For example, Gancio has only one actor, but can have multiple users and therefore organisers, but the organisers are intentionally hidden, and the ActivityPub actor in attributedTo is just the Gancio instance.

We therefore proposed an organizers attribute which is a collection holding the organizers. If it’s not present fallback guidelines are provided, and it’s also possible to leave it explicitly empty. Note that this also gives the opportunity to just include links to non-ActivityPub things.

Still under discussion is whether to include a process or proof that an ActivityPub actor has actually agreed to be part of an organiser collection for a particular event. Contributions are very welcome here!

Collection of Upcoming Events


Parsing an outbox to search for the upcoming and ongoing events is not practical. Therefore a special collection has been introduced.

Attendees


In this respect, the question arised as to whether mechanisms should be included to allow pre-confirmation of whether anonymous (non-ActivityPub-public) joins are allowed, or whether they are rejected by default.

Contributing


Everyone is welcome to help us improve this document. Every comment helps. If you are familiar with code forges, comments and reviews on codeberg are preferred, but replies to this article are also very welcome!

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#Hacker è #JeremyHammond,che si è fatto 10 ANNI di galera,condannato per aver hackerato agenzia privata d'intelligence, #Stratfor,SENZA MAI aver venduto o ricattato nessuno: per esporre loro business NON etico
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la storia è piena di “robin hood” che pagano caro l’aver provato a fare la cosa giusta, vedi Aaron Swartz per fare un altro esempio 😢

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@RaccoonForFriendica new version 0.1.0-beta13 available!

Changelog:
🦝 migration to Material3 pull-to-refresh components;
🦝 moved app info to navigation bar and improve "About" dialog;
🦝 add open-source licences screen;
🦝 additional more readable font;
🦝 redesign application icon and splash screen;
🦝 add new l10ns (Polish and Portuguese);
🦝 fix spoiler closing immediately after being opened;
🦝 added experimental support to background notification check;
🦝 code refactoring and cleanup.

The icon change was made necessary because in order to display notifications in the status bar a small monochrome icon has to be provided and the old one has too many details. But since every cloud has a silver lining, this was the occasion to redesign a new one and, by combining it with the icon of the Lemmy app, create a logo for the Procyon project, i. e. the umbrella organization both clients belong to.

Have a great weekend and, remember, #livefasteattrash!

#raccoonforfriendica #procyonproject #opensource #fediverseapp #friendica #friendicadev #mobileapp #androidapp #androiddev #kotlin #multiplatform #kmp #compose #foss


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📢 Any devs in #London today? Join us for a talk and Q&A on the Bonfire Framework at the Elixir London meetup! 🔥

@mayel will introduce @bonfire, a flexible framework of tools and libraries to build federated, social and collaborative apps.

Perfect for devs interested in Elixir and open-source, modular and federated software.

📅 7:00 PM Friday October 25th @ Erlang Solutions, Whitechapel

meetup.com/elixir-london/event…

#ElixirLang #MyElixirStatus

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Shortform video platform Loops opens a waitlist for signups, Mosaic is a service to help organisations create their custom version of upcoming platform Bonfire, and the new owners of event planning platform Mobilizon release a big new update.


Last Week in Fediverse – ep 89

Shortform video platform Loops opens a waitlist for signups, Mosaic is a service to help organisations create their custom version of upcoming platform Bonfire, and the new owners of event planning platform Mobilizon release a big new update.

The News


Loops is an upcoming fediverse platform for short form video, build by Pixelfed creator Daniel Supernault. On the loops.video site there has been a countdown over the last month that ended this Monday, and with it, people can now sign up for Loops. Loops is currently still being worked on, with Supernault working on getting the apps out to release. The Android app will be made available as an APK, and the iOS app is waiting approval for TestFlight. Loops is currently developed as a mobile-first platform, and does not have a webUI yet, with Supernault saying that a webUI will come later. He also reports that emails welcoming people after they have signed on are rate-limited by the email provider, resulting in a long delay before people can be onboarded. Moderation services for Loops are currently being worked on as well, and Supernault is looking for moderators to help moderate the platform.

Mosaic is a new service by the Bonfire team, where the Bonfire team will help organisations build and set up their own digital federated spaces. Bonfire is an upcoming fediverse platform that focuses on customisation and extensibility, that people and organisations can customise to meet their needs. Mosaic is a way for the Bonfire team to help onboard organisations and customise the platform to their needs. Extensions and other improvements made with Mosaic are then available for the rest of the community to use as well, as part of their AGPL license, so that everyone benefits from contributions made by others. Bonfire is currently available for testing, but not for official release yet. The main blocker seems to be slow performance of Bonfire, and the developers have put out a bounty for other developers to help them improve performance.

An update by Newsmast on what they are working on with Channels.org. They relate Newsmast’s Channels to Bluesky’s custom feeds (as DYI algorithms) and Farcaster’s channels (‘Cozy corners’). For Newsmast, Channels are a way to onboard public organisations, giving them their own place (the channel) to distribute their content, where the space is clearly their own, but still part of the larger fediverse network. Newsmast also notes that they’ll focus on Channels for now, and that Patchwork, the plugin system for Mastodon servers is postponed to early next year to prevent the team from stretching themselves too thin. Newsmast’s Michael Foster also blogged about how we can build a different web together as well, reiterating my point that the current trend seems for AT Protocol to be used for public and global conversations, and ActivityPub for (semi)-private networked communities.

IFTAS held a 2024 Survey among fediverse moderators, and while they are preparing a full report they give some early highlights on the results. Based on their survey data IFTAS estimates that there are 5500 users per moderator on the fediverse, which is between three and ten times as many moderators compared to other Big Tech platforms.

An article by Techpolicy.press goes into detail on ‘The Perils and Promises of Federated Social Media’. It draws attention to pravda.me as an example of the expanding thread landscape on decentralised social networks; a large Mastodon server that bears all the hallmarks of inauthenticity, but is barely blocked on or on the radars of the larger fediverse community. The article also makes a distinction between moderation questions where decentralisation empowers communities (often related to political or sexual content), and issues where centralisation is more beneficial, such as spam and CSAM. Accompanying the article is also a podcast interview with Erin Kissane and Darius Kazemi about their fediverse governance report.

Fediverse event planning platform Mobilizon got transferred from developers Framasoft to a new organisation, Kaihuri, who have gotten a grant from NLnet to further expand the platform. They have now released v5 of Mobilizon, with new features such as a homepage redesign, a monthly calendar view, better management of recurring or ongoing events, and more. You can test out the new version of Mobilizon here.

The Links


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A new signup wave for Bluesky with 2 million new accounts, a way to store arbitrary files on your PDS, the Japanese Bluesky apps continue to build interoperability with each other, and more.

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⚠️ WARNING: the instance swiss-chaos.social has nothing to do with chaos.social! ⚠️

This instance is NOT chaos.social, but is an instance of disinformation and conspiracy theories called SWISS-chaos.social!
The name adopted wants to make people believe that it is a sort of "Swiss branch" of the illustrious instance that hosts the most important activists for digital human rights. But that is not true!

cc @ordnung @leah @rixx

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@informapirata ⁂ :privacypride: @@ordnung @rixx @Leah (Cloudstylistin) @Esserci. O no?

I don't understand, just because they express their thoughts against the Great Reset, Adverse Effects of the Covid Vaccine , they must be labeled as conspirators , conspiracy theories ???

in reply to Anomaly

@x Anyone who opens an instance with a deliberately misleading name to spread the anti-scientific disinformation that circulates on the internet (not to express thoughts: there is no original thought, but only toxic waste shared as fertilizer), is just a professional disinformer.
Do you understand the problem now?

@ordnung @rixx @leah @esserci

in reply to informapirata ⁂

@x I would like to be even clearer: I am not angry with conspiracy theorists, nor do I despise them, and in fact I fully understand their way of thinking.
What I hate are psyop strategies that exploit the fragility of conspiracy theorists

@ordnung @rixx @leah @esserci

in reply to informapirata ⁂

@informapirata ⁂ :privacypride: @@ordnung @rixx @Leah (Cloudstylistin) @Esserci. O no?

Anyone who opens an instance with a deliberately misleading name


I agree with you .

But you can't tell me they spread anti-scientific misinformation , maybe they have their reasons

in reply to Anomaly

@x There are still open questions about the effects of Covid-19, the effects of vaccines and mitigation policies, but they do not concern either the information garbage about the alleged conspiracies of the Chinese government, nor the alleged dangerousness of the vaccine.
There is NO longer any scientific debate about the dangerousness of the vaccine: the mRNA covid vaccines are safe beyond all expectations and reduce damage to the disease. STOP 🛑
in reply to informapirata ⁂

@informapirata ⁂ :privacypride:

But this is your thought , it's okay . But what do you know about these people on this social network or in general why they think this way!

You don't know how many people I know who are sick after the Covid vaccine, and now they think differently . I told you this to tell you that , you don't know why those people think that way.
Just because you think differently, others are conspiracy theorists

I am for freedom of speech

if such a person would come to your social network , what would you do you would ban him on the first post?

in reply to Anomaly

> But this is your thought , it's okay

No. It's not my opinion, but the current scientific consensus.

> I am for freedom of speech

I am for freedom of discussion. A flock of parrots that copy and paste anti-scientific slogans are enemies of discussion.

> to your social network , what would you do you would ban him on the first post?

If one writes, I warn him; if more than one, I silence him; if he only writes this nonsense, I ban him. I don't pay for a server to host bullshit.

@x


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We're now shipping the #Plushtodon to Norway and Switzerland! Only 173 left in Europe. News on the US and other regions to come soon!

shop.joinmastodon.org/products…

in reply to Mastodon

@Mastodon
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Contrariamente a quanto successo ieri sera a #GoogleDrive, il cloud nextcloud di #MastodonUno ha continuato a funzionare regolarmente, inoltre è impostato per crittografare tutti i file, quindi nessuno potrà mai sapere cosa inserite e nessuno vi potrà chiudere il cloud perchè mettete le foto di vostro figlio:

wired.it/article/google-foto-p…

il nextcloud è attivabile solo dagli utenti attivi di mastodon.uno e pixelfed.uno, fornisce 25GB oltre a servizi Office, ecc., da qui:

cloud.mastodon.uno/apps/forms/…

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Nextcloud ha un sacco di vantaggi e Google un sacco di problemi, su questo siamo d’accordo..ma essere bloccato da piracyshield non è tra questi, dai..poteva succedere anche a mastodon.uno di essere bloccato
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in reply to Filippo Valle

@fvalle capita che Google sia bloccato ma capita anche che Google ti blocchi senza motivo, in ogni caso ci si affida a un servizio che può essere tagliato da un momento all’altro.

Avevamo in effetti avuto problemi con un servizio simile perché era aperto a tutti ma su nextcloud le iscrizioni sono solo su invito e solo per persone fidate che si conoscono bene perché molto attive su M1.


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We’re excited to launch Mosaic: a new initiative from the Bonfire team that empowers organisations by creating their own customised and federated digital space - built just for them.

✨ Learn more about Mosaic: bonfirenetworks.org/mosaic/

📣 Read our announcement post: bonfirenetworks.org/posts/mosa…

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@meljoann @radiofreefedi yeah it’s a pity we still didn’t found a way to focus on RFF pilot! We are trying to get the 1.0 out and at same time find sustainability to pay ourselves and onboard new devs among other things. Maybe applying to a grant to develop the needed features could be a way to push this forward? Happy to chat more about it…
in reply to Bonfire

That’s understandable, yeah we’re in a tricky position for grants as we’re so international. A grant to support both your work and our main dev would be amazing.

I’m not a tech person myself (just experience with Arts funding). So, a bit out of the loop regarding funding help available… any leads you could point us to? I’d be happy to help with the application

@radiofreefedi



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Oh yes! #RaccoonForFriendica is the most complete app ever seen for Friendica and, in addition to working with Mastodon, it might be the only app in the world capable of managing the potential of Mastodon Glitch-soc

informapirata.it/2024/10/18/ra…

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@Al Kath I confirm that if you hadn't noticed that Raccoon worked so well with Mastodon glitch-soc
1) I would never have suggested to @Dieguito 🦝🧑🏻‍💻🍕 to pay attention to this fork
2) I would not have decided to change poliversity.it from Mastodon classic to Mastodon Glitch-soc
3) I would not have had so much fun doing a lot of testing 🤣

So thanks again for your contribution! ❤️

@informapirata ⁂ :privacypride: @Jerry Bell :bell: :llama: :verified_paw: :verified_dragon: :rebelverified:​ @informapirata

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Raccoon, l’app Friendica che riserva sorprese anche per gli utenti Mastodon

#RaccoonForFriendica è l’app più completa mai vista finora per Friendica e, oltre a funzionare anche con Mastodon, potrebbe essere l’unica app al mondo in grado di gestire le potenzialità di Mastodon Glitch-soc

informapirata.it/2024/10/18/ra…

#Friendica #Mastodon #Poliversity #Poliverso #Raccoon #RaccoonForFriendica

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Sono davvero impressionato dall'ultima release di Raccoon For Friendica! Un'app che oggi compie 3 mesi e che è in beta da meno di un mese

Si tratta della app più completa mai vista finora per Friendica e, oltre a funzionare anche con Mastodon, è —da quello che ho potuto vedere— l'unica app al mondo che è in grado di gestire le potenzialità di Mastodon Glitch-soc!

Complimenti a @dieguitux8623 che è riuscito a fare un vero capolavoro e mi auguro che lo sviluppo prosegua altrettanto bene rispetto a come è iniziato.
Adesso mi auguro che ci siano tanti utilizzatori che possano apprezzarla.

#RaccoonForFriendica #Friendica #glitch

@fediverso

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Chatting comes to the ATmosphere with Picosky, X is unbanned in Brazil, and a significant group of Brazilians moved back, and a deeper dive into aviary.domains.


Last Week in the ATmosphere – Oct 24 week 3

Chatting comes to the ATmosphere with Picosky, X is unbanned in Brazil, and a significant group of Brazilians moved back, and a deeper dive into aviary.domains.

Picosky


Picosky is a new chatting service build on top of atproto. Picosky was created by Juliet, and started as an experiment with building an simple chatting app on atproto, originally limited to just 12 characters per message. It was a demonstration of making an AppView for chatting on atproto that utilises the existing infrastructure of the network: You log in with your Bluesky/atproto account, messages are stored on your PDS, and the PicoSky AppView listens to all the messages on the Relay and displays them. The direct connection of your Bluesky account made it a fun place for atproto hackers to hang out, which expanded the scope of Picosky quickly to a serious project.

Over the last week or so Picosky has undergone rapid changes by the developers Juliet and Elainya: you can log in with OAuth, the character limit got increased multiple times, now at 2048, you can edit and delete your posts, and UI updates where it is now a clear and minimalist proper chat UI.

The simple structure of Picosky, and the way that it integrates with the atproto infrastrucuture, makes Picosky an attractive place to further build on by other developers: one of the first Picosky-compatible projects to make it available via IRC. This is a separate AppView, that reads the same posts as the Picosky AppView does, and that can fully interact (federate) with each other. Other projects in the works are an iOS client or one for the terminal.

Meanwhile, the Lexicon structure (which determines the format of the messages) has had a major update the other day: there is now support for creating separate rooms on Picosky. Anyone can create rooms, and the owner of the room can set moderation to be based on a deny-list or an allow-list. The frontend has not been updated yet to take advantage of this however, but I’m sure we’ll get back to Picosky next week.

The News


It is now a week since X has been unbanned in Brazil, and a significant part of the Brazilian user base that joined Bluesky has gone back to X. Daily Active User count dropped by half, from 1.2M to 600k. This number was around 300k before the ban, indicating that a large number of Brazilians did stick around: Portuguese is still the most popular language of the platform; 45% of posts are in Portuguese, compared to 32% English posts. It shows that social networks are extremely sticky, and people have very high switching costs. In that context, Bluesky has done well with the number of Brazilian who stayed around after X became unbanned.

Bluesky is hiring, and they are looking for a Feed Algorithmics Engineer. The job is to “design and implement machine learning models to improve personalized content recommendations, spam detection, labeling, and more.” As the network grows, so do the challenges of providing algorithmic recommendations for feeds and spam detection.

Threads struggles with moderation on their platform, and Bluesky is seizing the opportunity by creating an account on Threads to promote the platform as an alternative on (and to) Threads.

Altmetric, which tracks online engagement with academic research, is looking for people that are willing to help with feedback sessions for their Bluesky attention tracking roll-out.

Bluesky has updated their app (v1.92), with some new features: you can now pin a post to your profile. There are also design improvements, including new font options. You can also now filter your searches by language.

TOKIMEKI, an alternative client for Bluesky, now supports showing your atproto-powered Linkat and WhiteWind profiles.

Threads struggles with moderation on their platform, and Bluesky is seizing the opportunity by creating an account on Threads to promote the platform as an alternative on (and to) Threads.

Frontpage, a link-aggregator platform build on atproto, is now open and available for everyone to use. The developers say that they’ll work on notifications first, and that decentralised and self-sovereign sub-communities are coming later.

For the protocol-people: what happens when there are clashing lexicon fields? Nick Gerakines publishes his thoughts on how the Lexicon system can evolve, with some additional thoughtsby Bluesky protocol engineer Bryan Newbold.

Deep dive: Aviary.domains


Aviary.domains is a new service that helps managing domains for Bluesky and the ATmosphere, that recently launched in early access. Aviary makes it easy for people who have a domain name to share that domain name with other people as their handle.

To place Aviary in a larger context, a short explanation: It helps to understand as the central offering of the ATmosphere being a single digital identity. When you first sign up for Bluesky, two things happen:

  • You join the ATmosphere, by creating a digital identity (a DID) that works with all other products that are build on atproto.
  • You log in with this newly created identity into Bluesky, and use Bluesky with this digital identity.

This digital identity, a DID (Decentralized IDentifier) is a unique string of letters and numbers that can never change, which is good for computers because it is unique, but very unpractical for humans to use. That’s why you have a handle, which corresponds behind the scenes with your DID. The idea of atproto is to use a website domain name as your handle. You can always change your handle to a different handle if you want, as long as you have a website domain you can use. Most people do not have their own website domain, so when you first join the ATmosphere and your DID gets created, Bluesky also gives you one of their sub domains you can use: yourname.bsky.social.

The goal for Bluesky is that people use their website domains as their handle, as it gives an easy way to verify ownership: the owner of the website is also the owner of the account. One problem however, is that many people do not have their own website domain. This is both an opportunity for Bluesky (which now sells domain names to people), but also still a challenge: a significant group of people are simply not interested in paying money for what amounts to a better user name. Even if you have your own website domain, having to change DNS settings is still a technical barrier that is too high for a large group of people.

This is the part where Aviary.domains comes it, as it tries to find an audience for people who have a domain name, that they want to share with their community. It has created a system where an owner of a domain name can invite other people to use a version of that domain as their handle on Bluesky. So as the owner of laurenshof.online, I can log in with Aviary, and generate a subdomain for, lets say my cat. Aviary generates a link that my cat can click; they log in on Aviary with Bluesky’s OAuth, type in their name, press accept, and their handle is now changed, without them having to change settings.

What makes this different from projects like swifties.social, which also hand out subdomains for people to use as handles on Bluesky, is that it does not require the final step, changing settings in the app. It also gives the owner of the domain control over each subdomain, with the ability to subtract subdomains as well. This makes Aviary more useful for people who want to have more control over who identifies with the domain, and can show they are part of the community.

The Links


That’s all for this week, thanks for reading! You can subscribe to my newsletter to receive the weekly updates directly in your inbox below, and follow me on Bluesky @laurenshof.online.

#atmosphere #bluesky

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self-hosted 3d printing app Manyfold joins the fediverse, and sub.club expands to longform blogging with write.as


Last Week in Fediverse – ep 88

A quieter news week: self-hosted 3d printing app Manyfold joins the fediverse, and write.as now offers paid subscriptions for fediverse accounts with sub.club.

The News


Manyfold is a self-hosted open source web app for organising and managing your collection of 3d files, and in particularly 3d printing. With their latest update, Manyfold has now joined the fediverse by adding ActivityPub support. With the new integration, you can now follow a Manyfold creator from your fediverse account of choice, and get notified when the Manyfold account uploads a new 3d file. New Manyfold uploads appear as short posts with a link in the rest of the fediverse. To demonstrate, here is the Manyfold account from the creator Floppy as visible from Mastodon, and here is the profile on their Manyfold instance itself. The Manyfold server also has a button to follow the account on the fediverse.
Manyfold implementing ActivityPub support is an illustration of how ActivityPub can be viewed as a form of ‘Social RSS’: it allows you to follow any Actor for updates, and adds social features (sharing/liking to it).

Sub.club is a service that lets people create paid subscription feeds on the fediverse. The service recently launched with the ability to monetise Mastodon feeds, and has now expanded to also include long-form writing, by collaborating with write.as. Write.as is the flagship instance of fediverse blogging software WriteFreely. With this update, blogs on write.as can now set on a a per-blog basis if a blog is a premium blog, and where the cut-off is. People who follow the blog from a fediverse account will see an option to subscribe and view the full post; this post by the sub.club account shows how a premium blog will look like from various perspectives. Adding sub.club to a write.as blog is as simple as following this three-minute PeerTube video.

The Links


That’s all for this week, thanks for reading!

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#CoseBelle

Finalmente #mastodon suggerisce le persone per rafforzare il legame della community con l'istanza:

mastodon.uno/explore/suggestio…

La lista degli utenti suggeriti ora comprende le persone più attive e popolari dentro #MastodonUno oltre alle persone suggerite manualmente da M1.

Questo va a migliorare l'esperienza di scoperta e aumenta la forza delle community locali/italiane i cui utenti ora possono essere "scoperti" molto più facilmente rispetto alle enormi istanze "multilingua" 👍

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mastodon - Collegamento all'originale
filippodb ⁂
@francina1909 @out infatti c'è anche il suggerimento di persone che vengono seguite da chi segui. Praticamente gli amici degli amici 👍
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mastodon - Collegamento all'originale
filippodb ⁂
per fortuna nessuno traccia le preferenze (stelline o reblog) ma sono suggeriti solo gli utenti più seguiti dagli amici. Il che è un grande modo per espandere la propria bolla.
È una funzione chiave di scoperta già presente su bluesky, threads, X, solo che Mastodon lo fa in modo più trasparente 😉
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[release] 1.13.0-beta01


Raccoons of the Lemmyverse, we're back! A new beta version of the app has been released, as promised in the last AMA (it was the next internal milestone).

Let us know what you think about it, you'll notice that there have been several layout improvements since the last version, e.g. bottom sheets have a new style, clickable areas now show the ripple effect, etc.

Hope you all enjoy it and, as always, L.F.E.T. 🦝🦝🦝

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The wait is over*—The #Mastodon stuffed toy is now available for purchase in the EU! Other regions to come later. Share your pictures with the #Plushtodon hashtag!

shop.joinmastodon.org/products…

in reply to Mastodon

It's so adorable, will it be available in the United States?? Would love to get my hands on one!
in reply to Mastodon

All I see since I first saw this posting is "sold out". I guess, this won't change, right?

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Next Friendica Release Candidate available


The development cycle for the 2024.09 release enters the last stage before the stable release – today we have branched off the 2024.09 release candid branch. 2024.09-rc contains all the features of the stable release and is meant to test the new features, find some last rough edges and smooth out the path to the final stable release at the end of October. 2024.09 will be mostly a maintenance release fixing issues in various parts of Friendica. If you want to help out in testing, please checkout the new 2024.09-rc branch and report problems that you encounter.

The most notable changes in this release are:

  • we now support HLS and further improved the compatibility with Bluesky,
  • we dropped the support of OStatus (the predecessor of ActivityPub) after evaluating the amount of active servers/contacts that are still only using this protocol,
  • Friendica is now REUSE compliant and supports FEP-67ff


What is Friendica


Friendica is a decentralized communications platform, you can use to host your own social media server that integrates with independent social networking platforms (like the Fediverse or Diaspora*) but also some commercial ones like Tumbler and BlueSky.

How to use the 2024.09 RC Version of Friendica


If you want to help in the release process, you can checkout the 2024.09-rc branch from the git repositories.
git fetch
git checkout 2024.09-rc
git pull
bin/composer.phar install --no-dev
Note that you only need to pull the composer dependencies in the core repository.

Should the upgrade process of the database get stuck


If you encounter this, please initiate the DB update manually from the command line by running the script
./bin/console dbstructure update
from the base of your Friendica installation. If the output contains any error message, please let us know using the channels mentioned above.
What to do with Quirks

The 2024.09-rc phase is meant to identify and preferable resolve quirks and bugs that should not be in the 2024.09 release, but have slipped through so far. So if you switch your node to the 2024.09-rc version of Friendica, please let us know about rough edges you find, either at the issue tracker (github account required), in the support group or in the developers group.

Thanks a lot for helping with the release 🙂


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in reply to Friendica News

@Friendica News
I would like to point out this gallery issue - even though as non-coder I expect this to be an easy one

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friendica (DFRN) - Collegamento all'originale
Unity :Friendica: ⁂
@Tobias
Klar, kein Thema. Habe den Beitrag im verlinkten Support Forum aktualisiert.
Bei Fragen einfach melden. 😀

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L'intrepido collega Maurizio, nei suoi sforzi di rimettere in ordine il mondo, almeno quello della nostra #biblioteca scolastica, ha ritrovato questi reperti di #ArcheologiaDigitale: una raccolta di floppy disk da 5 pollici e 1/4 con le programmazioni dell'anno scolastico 1988/89 #FloppyDisk #scuola @scuola@poliverso.org @scuola@a.gup.pe @informapirata @filippodb @simonezanella @mauriziocarnago

in reply to nilocram

poi - se li vedi realmente - li trovi chini sugli smartphone.
Un po’ come i cartelli in qualche frazione della mia città : “rallentare, qui i bambini giocano ancora per strada”.


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Poliversity.it evolve grazie a Mastodon Glitch-soc, un fork amichevole. Poliversity consentirà quindi post lunghi fino a 9999 caratteri, formattazione del testo, scrittura di messaggi visibili solo in locale, modalità thread e… gli scarabocchi

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in reply to informapirata

Molto interessante, specialmente per una istanza come Poliversity focalizzata sul giornalismo, il mondo dell'educazione e la ricerca scientifica! 👍
Ho una curiosità tecnica, è possibile tornare alla versione Mastodon ufficiale se un domani doveste cambiare idea?
in reply to prealpinux

@prealpinux tornare indietro non dovrebbe essere affatto difficile, ma ovviamente questo significherebbe che tutti i vecchi messaggi scritti con formattazione speciale verrebbero ricompilati e Resi una ammasso illeggibile di codice sorgente Mark down o html. Non so invece come si metterebbero le cose per i messaggi visibili solo all'interno dell'istanza, ma credo che anche in quel caso verrebbe verso più o meno tutto

@informapirata

in reply to Trames

@Trames tornare indietro non è impossibile. Il problema è che tornare indietro sarebbe semplicemente inaccettabile. Quando provi qualcosa in più, è difficile tornare indietro

@informapirata @prealpinux


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Poliversity, l’istanza Mastodon per giornalisti e studiosi, consentirà di scrivere post lunghi e formattati!


Poliversity.it evolve grazie a Mastodon Glitch-soc, un fork amichevole. Poliversity consentirà quindi post lunghi fino a 9999 caratteri, formattazione del testo, scrittura di messaggi visibili solo in locale, modalità thread e... gli scarabocchi

Oggi, Dr. Polivers*, l’amministratore occulto di Poliversity.it non ha solo aggiornato il sistema alla nuova release di Mastodon, ma ha anche fatto di più. Il sistema infatti è stato aggiornato alla Mastodon glitch-soc, un fork amichevole del software di microblogging più usato nel Fediverso. Questo fork è stato pensato per fornire funzionalità aggiuntive molto interessanti…

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Poliversity.it evolve grazie a Mastodon Glitch-soc, un fork amichevole. Poliversity consentirà quindi post lunghi fino a 9999 caratteri, formattazione del testo, scrittura di messaggi visibili solo in locale, modalità thread e… gli scarabocchi

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Ci chiedono spesso quando attiveremo un servizio di email o matrix aperto a tutti.

Attualmente gestiamo circa 30 servizi:

servizi.devol.it

mantenerli aggiornati e funzionanti è un'impresa enorme e serve fare i conti con i costi e il tempo a disposizione che non sono illimitati come nelle big tech.

Inoltre servizi come tuta o proton offrono ottime email gratuite. Matrix e Mozilla offrono ottimi server Matrix.
Tutti questi servizi già garantiscono un'ottima sicurezza e privacy 👍

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in reply to Devol ⁂

anche zoho mail è gratuita per uso personale e dovrebbe essere sicura... (ma non sono un'esperta)
in reply to Devol ⁂

Complimenti è un gran lavoro impegnativo.
Il vero problema nell’informatica di oggi è che manca il modo di garantire sia la riservatezza che la persistenza dei propri dati mantenendone l’accessibilità a cui ormai siamo abituati.
Se carico sul password manager di Google mi devo fidare ciecamente di Google.
Se carico sul vault Devol mi devo fidare ciecamente di Devol e del provider scelto dai Devol.
Non c’è modo di verificare se un’installazione è come ‘mamma’ la ha fatta nei SaaS.

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@oliphant archipelago networks are the best alternative we've seen to the growing Silicon Valley movement around network states and popup cities 🔥

writer.oliphant.social/oliphan…

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Ecco come un problema che abbiamo riscontrato sul nostro server Poliverso.org ci ha fatto accorgere dell’invasione dei crawler che Meta sta sguinzagliando per il Web con l’obittivo di addestrare la sua intelligenza artificiale. E i media italiani, muti!

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in reply to informapirata

Caspita.
E pensare che Meta rompe tanto le palle su 'ste cose... che scraping dai loro siti non si deve fare per ToS, che se lo fai ti ratelimitano pesantemente, a tal punto che succede che ti bloccano anche se vedi troppa roba in giro da un normale browser senza un account loggato... però poi loro sono i primi.
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La pericolosa legge antipirateria, spiegata semplice

Il mega riassunto completo della legge antipirateria (#PiracyShield), spiegata semplice anche per chi non ci ha capito niente finora.

Come funziona e perché è una follia pericolosa che sta danneggiando Internet in Italia senza risolvere la pirateria.

Di @mattfortini sul suo blog

@pirati@feddit.it

matteosonoio.it/it/piracyshiel…

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in reply to Pirati.io

quel che stupisce (o forse no) è l'incompetenza tecnica
Alla fine i politici fanno contenti i referenti (non certo gli elettori), poi che si realizzi o meno, e come, a loro non importa, immagino avranno avuto un loro ritorno, un aiutino, diciamo così

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in reply to Pirati.io

Sapevo fosse una bidonata ma non mi immaginavo così tanto.