Last Week in Fediverse โ ep 84Welcome back to another update. Some short housekeeping notes: Last Week in Fediverse will now release every Wednesday. Furthermore, Iโve split all news about Bluesky and the ATmosphere into itโs own separate newsletter, Last Week in the ATmosphere. I originally wanted to keep them together, but the newsletters were simply getting too big, so it was time to split them. Lots of news this week with FediForum, a Fediverse Discovery Project, and mozilla.social shutting down, so lets dive in.
The news
The fourth edition of FediForum happened this week, a three-day unconference with speed demos of fediverse projects as well as some 40 open sessions about anything related to the fediverse. There were 14 demos, of which the video recordings should be available soon. Two demos stood out to me, showing products that have not been seen before, with Newsmast with channel.org, and Darius Kazemiโs ActivityPub Data Observatory. While there were lots of other great demos as well (Bandwagon for example), these mainly featured existing products.
Channel.org is the latest project by Newsmast, and is a way for organisations, nonprofits, and news publishers to build their own channel for outreach. It is fully connected to the fediverse with the front-end providing a clear and simplified interface that simply shows the latest posts by a channel. This can be seen with the demo Channel for the Kamala Harris Group, which recently got switched over to use Patchwork, Newsmast other fediverse project. Channel.org is based on Patchwork, which is a plug-in architecture that Mastodon server admins can run on top of their Mastodon server. Patchwork is getting close to being released, and Newsmast is currently looking for admins who are willing participate. Patchwork is free and publicly available, while Channel.org will require a paid membership and targets larger public organisations.
The ActivityPub Data Observatory allows fediverse developers to scan the structure (not the content!) of data that gets send around on the fediverse, allowing developers to easily compare how different sofware structures their ActivityPub data. For example, you can easily compare how Misskey structures the ActivityPub code of a note, versus how Mastodon sends the ActivityPub code for a note. The open-ended nature of ActivityPub allows developers to give their own spin on implementing ActivityPub
As for the sessions, one recurring theme I noted is the need and demand for spaces to discuss the governance and social side of the fediverse and fediverse developments. While there are spaces for the technical aspects of the discussion of the fediverse and the protocol with the SocialCG, the SocialHub and the Fediverse Developer Network, these communities are less accessible to the technical inclined people. This is a conversation that also has come up during previous FediForum sessions. The Fediverse Governance Report also notes a lack of formal channels for Federated Diplomacy. While the need and demand is clearly there, it seems to be hard to figure out a way to establish such communications channels in a way that also establishes them as legitimate places for discussions and diplomacy.
Another aspect that stood out to me is the lack of discussions that I noticed about Bluesky during FediForum, and what lessons can be learned that can be applied to the fediverse. Bluesky has managed to grow significantly bigger than the fediverse at this point, with around 5 times as many monthly active users, as well as onboarding the Brazilian community. It seems to me that it is worth reflecting on why that is, and how the fediverse can better show itself as a good, ethical social network that people would like to join.
Fediverse Discovery Providers
The organisation behind Mastodon (Mastodon gGmbH) has announced a new project, Fediscovery, that explores decentralised search and discovery for the fediverse. The project got funded by NGI Search, and โexplores the possibilities for better search and discovery on the Fediverse in the form of an optional, pluggable service. This service should be decentralized, independent of any one specific Fediverse service and respect user choice and privacy.โ Mastodon gGmbH is explicitly not building only for Mastodon, they make it clear that they intend Fediscovery to be used by the wider fediverse, not only Mastodon.
What Mastodon gGmbH is building here is what they call a โFediverse Auxiliary Service Providersโ. These auxiliary service providers can potentially do a variety of different services. The Fediscovery project is about building one of these service providers, a disovery provider, as a minimum proof of concept and as a demonstration what types of services other people can build as well. The plans are currently still in the very early stages, and more information expected at the end of September. For my own understanding I think of a Fediverse Auxiliary Service Provider as pretty much a Relay, with some minor yet-to-be-announced differences.
Mastodon gGmbH is also explicit in focusing on opt-in consent for the service, stating that it will โonly ingest content from creators who opted in to discovery in the first place. Instances sending content to discovery providers should make sure to only send such content in the first place as well. All other information a discovery provider gathers should be anonymous.โ
During a FediForum session about Fediscovery, Mastodon CTO Renaud Chaput confirmed that between 8% and 10% of active accounts have opted into Mastodonโs search, a year after it has been released. It indicates one of the fundamental challenges of any design that is opt-in: very few people will change the default settings, irregardless of what the settings are about. As Discovery and Search systems gain value by covering a bigger network, it shows the fundamental tensions that Mastodon gGmbH will have to grapple with while building Fediscovery.
Mozilla shuts down mozilla.social fediverse server
Mozilla has announced that they will shut down the mozilla.social server in December 2024. The server was announced in December 2022 as a way to โexplore healthy social media alternativeโ. The project was originally quite big in scope, with planned integrations to log in with Firefox, and the GitHub repo showed their own mobile clients, and a custom front-end based on Elk. In 2023 Mozilla started to very slowly open up in a private beta, but the number of people getting access has been low. In February 2024 Mozilla downsizes as it refocuses on Firefox, scaling back their investments in various products, including their mozilla.social fediverse server. In an accompanying memo Mozilla stated at the time: โThe actions weโre taking today will make this strategic correction, working through a much smaller team to participate in the Mastodon ecosystem and more rapidly bring smaller experiments to people that choose to live on the mozilla.social instance.โ
It seems like these more rapid smaller experiments never came, nor did it seem that Mozilla was particularly interested in growing the server. I honestly cannot find out if the server ever opened up for open registrations after they ran a waitlist for a long time, but it seems like it they have not. At any rate, the experiment stayed small, and mozilla.social currently has just below 300 active users.
The shutdown of Mozilla.social does raise questions about the server-centric model that the fediverse is based around: are there organisations that are willing to run large general-purpose fediverse servers, and have the ability to handle the infrastructure costs and moderation requirements that come with it. Mozilla seemed like it would be a good organisation to potentially do that. With Mozilla now pulling back, focusing on smaller servers might be a more logical direction going forward.
In Other News
- Threads has figured out how maximise publicity by making minimal incremental updates to their ActivityPub implementation, edition 501.
- Threaded is a Mastodon client that advertised a โThreads-likeโ interface. Meta got in touch and threatened legal action, and now the app is renamed to Bubble.
- Bonfire showcases how with third-party extensions scientists can display โrelevant data about their work and research topics directly on their profiles.โ Bonfire does not yet know when the platform will launch.
- The client Kaiteki, which focused on being a client for all the different microblogging platforms in the fediverse, stops development.
- The German Federal Ministry of Education and Research had stopped using their Mastodon account in October 2023, and after not posting for most of the year they said theyโd close the account. After a large pushback from the community they reconsidered the decision and said theyโd continue using the account again.
- Mastodonโs new author byline feature is now available for everyone.
- Goblin is an Tumblr-like platform for the fediverse, that recently opened up for signups. Someone also made a Cohost user style.
- The new Trust and Safety Taskforce with the SocialCG has set up an issue tracker for protocol level and/or specification changes to improve trust and safety on the fediverse.
- mastodon adoptions article link.springer.com/article/10.1โฆ
- The Fediverse Berlin Day had multiple sessions about, well, the fediverse. Full live stream available here, with the German publisher ARD talking about their fediverse experience and strategy. Evan Prodromou also gave a talk about a โbigger, better fediverseโ, which you can watch here. I do want to note that I find it very hard to square Prodromouโs estimation of 10 million federated Threads account with the fact that Mastodon.social (which accounts for a quarter of the entire fediverseโ monthly active users) currently knows about 18000 federated Threads accounts.
The Links
Thatโs all for this week. You can also check out my post with the weekly news on atproto here.
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In This Issue
* A Note From The Editor
* Features
* Feature: RFF's August Fediwave Retrospective
* Feature: Owncast On Lemmy
* Featured Streamer: Pretok.
Kit Rhett Aultman (Owncast)
Allanon ๐ฎ๐น
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๐ช๐บ Il Simone Viaggiatore โ๏ธ๐งณ
in reply to Allanon ๐ฎ๐น • • •@allanon Tutto quello che descrivi avviene giร da molti anni: le persone non sanno distinguere il vero dal falso giร da sole; basti dire che c'รจ chi crede di vivere nella Terra piatta, o che il Coronavirus non esistesse, o altre stramberie.
Come al solito non รจ lo strumento in sรฉ il problema, รจ come lo si usa.
informapirata โ
Unknown parent • • •@talksina eh, ho capito. Ma se un'azienda va a espiantare reni ai bambini indiani per venderli in occidente, e io gli riempio le piste d'atterraggio di monnezza per non farli atterrare, non mi puoi dire che non รจ etico protestare perchรฉ sennรฒ ci rimettono i bambini in dialisi...
@allanon @aitech
informapirata โ
Unknown parent • • •@talksina le BigTech non avvelenano semplicemente i pozzi, ma li disseccano per estrarre l'acqua e rivenderla a peso d'oro come bibita gassata
@allanon @aitech
informapirata โ
Unknown parent • • •@talksina nessuno vuole bloccare le BigTech in quanto BigTech, ma solo nella misura in cui, per il proprio profitto, inquinano la societร drenando risorse pubbliche e si oppongono con ogni mezzo alle leggi che impediscono l'inquinamento della societร e il drenaggio delle risorse pubbliche
@allanon @aitech
informapirata โ
Unknown parent • • •@talksina sรฌ, ma il problema รจ che questioni del genere dovrebbero essere risolte sul piano legislativo, ma la forza negoziale delle Big Tech su governi e parlamento รจ tale che riescono a far fuori un Breton e chissร quanti candidati finanziano.
Per questo motivo รจ sbagliato criticare le forme alternative di resistenza, di hacking civile e di protesta attiva
@allanon @aitech
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Allanon ๐ฎ๐น
in reply to informapirata โ • • •Le AI stanno letteralmente rubando i dati di tutti infrangendo i copyright, fregandosene della privacy e di qualsiasi altro vincolo legislativo o etico distruggendo quello che rimane di Internet. Senza pensare al consumo energetico e conseguente inquinamento.
E non dico che non sia una tecnologia utile, ma a quale prezzo?
PiadaMakkine
in reply to informapirata โ • • •informapirata โ
in reply to PiadaMakkine • • •puรฒ essere...
Guarda qui, per esempio
poliversity.it/@macfranc/11317โฆ
@aitech
macfranc
2024-09-20 16:11:12
PiadaMakkine
in reply to informapirata โ • • •Allanon ๐ฎ๐น
in reply to Allanon ๐ฎ๐น • • •Principalmente mi riferisco alla IA generativa che ingoia tutto, frulla e sputa fuori.
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Allanon ๐ฎ๐น
Unknown parent • • •Allanon ๐ฎ๐น
Unknown parent • • •Se ti ho offeso chiedo scusa, perรฒ permettimi almeno di dire che se le mie opere vengono rubate per fare soldi a me girano
informapirata โ reshared this.
informapirata โ
Unknown parent • • •@talksina sรฌ, ma quando lo facevamo noi, se ci beccavano ci inchiappettavano (vedi il povero Di Liberto di #TNTVillage)
Ai guru della IA gli regalano i soldi, li trattano come eroi e se non riescono a rubarsi tutto gli chiedono pure scusa
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ildave
in reply to informapirata โ • • •informapirata โ
Unknown parent • • •@andreabont oggi no. Domani chissร ... Gli standard etici e protocollari di Neuralink si sono dimostrati giร molto al di sotto di quelli rispettati da parte di qualsiasi azienda medicale, grande o piccola.
@talksina @allanon @aitech
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Aaron Winston Smith
Unknown parent • • •@talksina ma sinceramente le tecnologie per la disabilitร ci sono da almeno 30 anni, in particolare per la disabilitร visiva. Penso ad esempio ai percorsi tattili o ai lettori di schermo, senza bisogno di dare il potere a una bigtech di alterare la propria percezione del mondo.
E soprattutto non dimenticate mai (MAI!) che la strada per l'inferno รจ lastricata di buone intenzioni.
@andreabont @informapirata @allanon @aitech